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|Commander Anthology 2018 (CM2)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2016 (C16)||Uncommon|
|Modern Masters 2015 Edition (MM2)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Uncommon|
|Duel Decks: Elspeth vs. Tezzeret (DDF)||Uncommon|
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Multikicker (You may pay an additional any number of times as you cast this spell.)
Everflowing Chalice enters the battlefield with a charge counter on it for each time it was kicked.
: Gain for each charge counter on Everflowing Chalice.
|Have (3)||metalmagic , , rockleemyhero|
|Want (8)||LordZZX , Takore , bogy , metalmustaine , Haxu , MagikMic , Bobtheplatypus , Ivannorr|
Everflowing Chalice Discussion
1 week ago
Mana rocks will be your main source. It also comes down to budget. The more you have to spend, the more you will use mana rocks. But if you're on a budget, you might rely on cards like Wayfarer's Bauble , Solemn Simulacrum (who takes advantage of any flicker effects you might have for your commander), Burnished Hart , etc. But either way, Fellwar Stone , Azorius Signet , Talisman of Progress , Mind Stone , Sol Ring , Thought Vessel , Everflowing Chalice should probably make it in.
2 weeks ago
Nerdytimesorwhatever, I have four mana-generating artifacts in that deck ( Sol Ring , Chromatic Lantern , Everflowing Chalice , and Astral Cornucopia ; all EDH decks of mine have the first two artifacts, and every deck except this one has Thran Dynamo and Gilded Lotus , but I replaced those with the chalice and cornucopia, since the deck can easily give them additional counters). I have one mana-generating creature, Gyre Sage , so lands are still the main source of mana in this deck. I also have several mana sinks, so I feel that I do not need to worry about being mana flooded.
2 weeks ago
My no budget recommends
Tutor and Draw
Life to Effects
Mindblade Render Nightmare Lash Lashwrithe Death Cloud Dystopia Strands of Night Plunge into Darkness Withering Boon Killing Wave Circle of Affliction Phyrexian Etchings Plague of Vermin Bond of Agony Moonlight Bargain Phyrexian Reclamation
The list looks pretty tight overall. There are definitely some cards I'd be cutting though.
Hope this helps mate.
3 weeks ago
Erebos, God of the Dead is a fun general -- good luck!
Most EDH games are decided by card advantage. You're typically facing down three opponents, meaning you're facing down about three times as many cards as you yourself can produce. Thus, anything that can recoup card advantage through mass draw or multi-for-ones is a good addition to a deck. With Erebos, I had a lot of luck with Words of Waste . This is an instant-speed discard effect (through Erebos' draw ability) and mana sink for the end of your opponents turns.
In a similar vein, cards like Smallpox are good for cleaning up the board from early threats, as well as setting back your opponents. I don't see it played that much, but I've had good success playing it myself. Pox is another option, but it is harder to minimize its damage to you as well.
Depending on your card pool, you may want to consider running Snow-Covered Swamp s instead of Swamp s. This allows you to run something like Dead of Winter instead of Languish ; it's more mana-efficient and tends to have a bigger effect.
Black doesn't have a lot of options in terms of mana-ramp. I see you've included Crypt Ghast and Cabal Stronghold (both powerful), but you should also consider artifact ramp. Sol Ring is an auto-include in almost every EDH deck, and cards like Charcoal Diamond , Coldsteel Heart , Mind Stone , Thought Vessel , Mana Vault , Mana Crypt (if you proxy or want to sell a kidney) and Everflowing Chalice are great as well.
One combo I had good luck with while playing Erebos was Raven's Crime with Null Profusion . This allows you to essentially cycle any dead lands you draw by casting Raven's Crime from the yard, while also making an opponent discard. In the discard vein, you seem to have some good discard pieces in your list already. Including Geth's Grimoire makes these into card advantage for you, and Waste Not is a great value engine. Syphon Mind is both a mass-discard spell and a mass-draw spell.
In your land-package, I think you should cut Leechridden Swamp . A majority of the time, losing one life isn't going to be significant; furthermore, entering tapped is a severe drawback. Running a normal or snow-covered Swamp is better.
A few of your creature inclusions are questionable. Gifted Aetherborn , Pawn of Ulamog and Basilica Screecher are not likely to have much of an effect on the board, and Brain Maggot or Kitesail Freebooter likely should be replaced with more global and/or recurring discard effects.
I feel that a lot of your spot removal consists of one-for-ones. Consume Spirit and Corrupt are good when there is only a single threat on the board, but are simply not good enough if two or more opponents are applying pressure at a given moment. Damnation and Toxic Deluge are the best black board-wipes, though they can be very expensive; I advise Nevinyrral's Disk or Perilous Vault as budget considerations. The life-gain effects of Consume Spirit and the like are probably not necessary when you're running Whip of Erebos and Pontiff of Blight .
Tutors are amazing in EDH. Demonic Tutor is the gold-standard, though it is expensive. Diabolic Tutor , which you run, is functionally identical to Mastermind's Acquisition in EDH -- you may want to consider running the latter for redundancy.
Because of the draw-power stapled on Erebos, you may want to consider running cards like Mindslicer . You'll recover much faster than your opponents, and with things like Waste Not or Geth's Grimoire on the field its a real powerhouse. This would require a sac-outlet; Phyrexian Tower is a good option here.
4 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
"One-card wincons" to consider: Insurrection , Expropriate , Painful Quandary , Rise of the Dark Realms , Revel in Riches , Cut / Ribbons . Perhaps Clone Legion , Rite of Replication , Mogis, God of Slaughter , Hour of Promise , Blatant Thievery , Grave Betrayal , or Mind's Dilation .
One thing to think about is getting Nicol Bolas flipped and maybe joined by the other planeswalkers and casting Obliterate , Jokulhaups , Devastation , or Decree of Annihilation . Almost guaranteed ultimates. Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God would be the best--proxy for now and include in first build?
Boardwipes: Toxic Deluge , Black Sun's Zenith , Hour of Devastation , Decree of Pain , Curse of the Swine , In Garruk's Wake , Deadly Tempest , Evacuation , Nevinyrral's Disk , Last One Standing , Perilous Vault , Oblivion Stone , Kindred Dominance , Necromantic Selection , Subterranean Tremors
Removal: Capsize , Bedevil , Hero's Downfall , Chaos Warp , Kolaghan's Command , Reality Shift , Pongify , Rapid Hybridization , Vraska's Contempt , Rakdos Charm , Price of Fame , In Bolas's Clutches , Plaguecrafter , Merciless Executioner , Fleshbag Marauder , Unstable Obelisk , Vandalblast , By Force , Shatterstorm , Hostage Taker , Yawgmoth's Vile Offering , Settle the Score , Dark Impostor , Hour of Glory , Sever the Bloodline , Silence the Believers , Spread the Sickness , Slave of Bolas , Electrodominance
Draw: (I would add Erebos once you're home) Patient Rebuilding , Phyrexian Arena , Greed , Arguel's Blood Fast Flip, Notion Thief , Windfall , Mystical Tutor , Blue Sun's Zenith , Pull from Tomorrow , Stroke of Genius , Braingeyser , Mind Spring , Expansion / Explosion , Invoke the Firemind , Deliver Unto Evil , Augur of Bolas , Painful Truths , Fevered Visions , Search for Azcanta Flip, Fact or Fiction , Dig Through Time , Treasure Cruise , Tidings , Thassa, God of the Sea , Day's Undoing , Reforge the Soul , Standstill , Deep Analysis , Necrologia , Steady Progress , Tezzeret's Gambit , Oath of Jace
Random utility: Ophiomancer , Metallurgic Summonings , As Fortold, Pendrell Mists , No Mercy , Stranglehold , Fated Return , Dark Intimations , Spellseeker , Sire Of Insanity , Thief of Sanity , Spark Double , Primal Amulet Flip, Dragon's Hoard , Mystic Retrieval , Shreds of Sanity , Spelltwine , Ashiok, Dream Render , Torpor Orb , Baleful Strix , Darksteel Myr , Solemn Simulacrum , Wayfarer's Bauble , Vedalken Orrery , Saheeli, Sublime Artificer , Will Kenrith , Mana Geyser , Gem of Becoming , Thran Dynamo , Narset, Parter of Veils , Keranos, God of Storms , Thrilling Encore , Star Compass , Coldsteel Heart , Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs , Ensnaring Bridge , Crawlspace , Expedition Map , Burnished Hart , Torment of Scarabs , Cruel Reality , Mnemonic Betrayal , Yawgmoth's Will , Bloodchief Ascension , Nightscape Familiar , Gonti, Lord of Luxury , Thaumatic Compass Flip, Dreadhorde Invasion , Fraying Omnipotence , Thrummingbird , Viral Drake , Past in Flames , Mizzix's Mastery , Omniscience , Tainted AEther , Aid the Fallen , Deepglow Skate , Flux Channeler , Rings of Brighthearth , Silent Arbiter , Meekstone , Mudslide , Astral Cornucopia , Everflowing Chalice , Lethal Vapors , Sunbird's Invocation , Stolen Strategy , Maze of Ith , Spreading Plague , Merchant Scroll , Polluted Bonds , Black Market , Grave Upheaval , Memory Plunder , Pain Magnification
Beaters: Dragonlord Silumgar , The Scorpion God , The Locust God , The Scarab God , God-Eternal Kefnet , God-Eternal Bontu , Darksteel Colossus , Colossus of Akros , Visara the Dreadful , Tsabo Tavoc , Avatar of Woe , Balefire Dragon , Nicol Bolas , Hellkite Tyrant , Bladewing the Risen , Grave Titan , Inferno Titan , Steel Hellkite , Vampire Nighthawk , Torrential Gearhulk , Noxious Gearhulk , Combustible Gearhulk , Dominus of Fealty , Roil Elemental , Tidespout Tyrant , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Keiga, the Tide Star , Ryusei, the Falling Star , Wrexial, the Risen Deep , Etali, Primal Storm , Nezahal, Primal Tide , Tetzimoc, Primal Death , Dread , The Haunt of Hightower , Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Enigma Drake , Crackling Drake , Archfiend of Depravity , Sheoldred, Whispering One , Thing in the Ice Flip, Niv-Mizzet, Parun , Sepulchral Primordial , Molten Primordial , Diluvian Primordial , Ob Nixilis, Unshackled , Sire of Stagnation , Utvara Hellkite
1 month ago
I think you're on to something here. I've been tweaking around with this style since seeing this deck. Here's what I've come up with.
It cleans up Karn's wish board a bit, adds Mirrodin Besieged both for a second instance of Thopter generation and for an alternate win-con. You can also bounce it with Paradoxical Outcome once you have 15 artifacts in your graveyard. Since lots of the artifacts sac to do things anyways, this is a really viable secondary win condition for the deck and it shores up the primary Thopter win-con as well. It also isn't legendary, letting you stack multiples. Running Everflowing Chalice and Chalice of the Void in place of the Chromatic pieces has a few benefits. For one, either can be cast for 0 to gain Thopters right before a Paradoxical Outcome ; secondly that leaves you with no 1 or 2 CMC spells in the deck letting Chalice of the Void obliterate most of the meta-game that relies on 1 and 2 CMC spells. Bye-bye Humans and Thoughtseize! Turn one Chalice for 1 is also really easy to achieve with this many 0 cost artifacts. Blast Zone and Ghost Quarter are the non- Island s that I chose to run, mostly because I can reuse them with Crucible of Worlds in the side board, giving the deck two more avenues of repeatable control. Having Bottled Cloister and Ensnaring Bridge in the side board gives you another full lock to pair with Mycosynth Lattice .
Anyways, really awesome deck idea you have here. You really inspired me!
1 month ago
last laugh - OK, I guess I missed that first part of the text. I put it onto my buy list a while back and when my FLNGS got it in for me I wasn't sure what to do with it exactly. So I guess I will find a spot to swap something out for it. Got any ideas of what to take out for it? I only have a few infinite combos and I have a lot of utility stuff. I am not sure if I wanna remove a mana rock, but I might take out Everflowing Chalice for a Grim Monolith if I get one soon. Maybe take out the puzzle box or Blue Sun's Zenith or a Mindmoil ? Getting harder to figure out what I want in and what I want out. I def want the infinite combos or what few of them there are in the deck, but I am not sure if I have just the right amount or too many hand cycle cards in here lol.
OMG, lol. I just realized something I haven't before. Tolarian Winds on a scepter plus Paradox Engine if I have a mana rock out. Come to think of it I think I had paradox engine out when I had the beta version of this way before I had accumulated most of the cards I needed for it. Since I don't believe in making decks with cards I don't actually own, or at least I have stopped doing such my deck has gone a ton of changes since then. Use to have no infinite combos and no hand swapping cards and no mana rocks and almost all of the cards in it use to be pay like 1-4 mana and draw like 2 cards etc.
Everflowing Chalice occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.09%
UR (Izzet): 0.47%