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Render Silent Discussion
Ebro on Draw it all
2 weeks ago
In jeskai colors? There isn’t much tbh. Unless you want to Pili-Pala Grand Architect which you’re already doing. Maybe stalling is your best bet. If you have access to Rewind or maybe Absorb Render Silent or Dovin's Veto Familiar's Ruse and Archaeomancer for infinite answers to countering stuff
1 month ago
1 month ago
1 month ago
I'm assuming the deck's aim is to basically wall up and stall for a win condition? If so, I definitely recommend Counterspell , Render Silent , Lavinia, Azorius Renegade and Propaganda for those reasons. Depends on your budget of course. Counterspell and Render Silent are straight up counters, making any spell fizzle out and the opponent get set back. Render Silent also keeps that opponent from trying to counter or remove your stuff for the rest of the turn. Propaganda is another "pay 2 to attack you" spell, and Lavinnia helps slow opponents down.
I'd also recommend some mana-making artifacts. You have a pretty high average converted mana cost so they'll help you cast more spells. Some pretty cheap ones are Mind Stone , Star Compass , Commander's Sphere , Darksteel Ingot , Azorius Keyrune , Azorius Signet , Azorius Cluestone , and Azorius Locket . For really, really budget you could also play Manalith . It can be hard for Blue or White to play big spells so they're pretty useful.
Blue has excellent draw power. Ponder , Brainstorm , Opt , Impulse , and Sleight of Hand (ignore the price listed, its been reprinted in newer sets at a cheaper cost), and Drawn from Dreams are all great spells to dig for what you need.
That's all I can recommend for now. Do what you will with my suggestions depending on your budget, and when you play the deck I hope you have fun!
2 months ago
Yo, its rad you want to play competitive, but why are you tagging a "It's still in its infancy and definitely a work in progress - suggestions are more than welcome!" deck as competitive? Almost as bad as people that tag their decks with primers and have 3 sentences.
First, rocks. Mana Crypt Chrome Mox Mox Diamond Mana Vault Talisman of Dominance and other color talismans. If you can't go faster than your opponent, they will simply win first. There's a reason almost every competitive commander deck runs these cards
Second, remove non-essential garbage cards. Why do you run Proper Burial ? Anything that doesn't actively help you win but rather sustains a game is (usually) a bad card. Anything that costs >5 mana you should also consider cutting because its either bad or you can do it for cheaper, Sepulchral Primordial Agent of Treachery Rise of the Dark Realms etc. As we talked about earlier with rocks, competitive EDH goes REAL fast, so you won't get to 9 mana to cast your big spell (that doesn't even win on resolution) without fast mana, which you don't run.
Third, replace bad interaction with cheaper more reliable interaction. Render Silent is pretty cool but it costs 3 mana for a counterspell, and it is extremely color intensive. Dissolve is also 3 mana and that simply doesn't cut it in competitive. Look at Dispel Swan Song Force of Will Pact of Negation Force of Negation Mana Leak Spell Pierce . Also look at your removal, Merciless Eviction is cool and flexible but not a competitive card, because it costs 6 mana to wipe. You should consider running better targeted removal too, like Doom Blade and Fragmentize
TL;DR Replace high mana cost cards with lower ones to reduce amount of dead cards in hand at all points of game.
2 months ago
So now I'm going to organize this post is from different types of cards and alternatives and/or strictly better cards that have the same Converted mana cost!
Let's start with enchantments! It seems like your all over the place, which is fine, but you have aura enchantments and land enchantments. which seems a little weird to me! Normally you want to either go a route for your deck, and this seems unorganized, so let us fix that! Serra Aviary is a bad card, cause it also gives opponents fliers +1/+1, we don't want this. So id suggest either going with some like Citadel Siege cause sure, it won't buff all creatures, and it'll give a boost to one creature you want per turn, or it can be used defensively which is always a plus! I'd also suggest going Dictate of Heliod cause it gives an extra +1/+1 for one extra mana, AND IT HAS FLASH! For cards that are better for the 4 cmc are Light from Within , Force of Virtue , Marshal's Anthem .
For protection cards or cards that accumulate value, instead of Angelic Renewal and Angelic Accord , cards which can be good, but you don't have a whole lof of life gain or recursion to run these two! So I'd suggest cards like Sigil of the New Dawn , Kindred Boon , Privileged Position and Asceticism are 100% more effective in protecting your creatures or giving good value.
Now that we got enchantments out of the way! lets work on these instants! I love some of these instants, Absorb is a fun card that I'm 100% gonna get, same with Archmage's Charm ! Disdainful Stroke , Essence Scatter (and the like), Commencement of Festivities and Guardian Angel are all weaker versions of cards like Mana Drain and Counterspell which I'd upgrade with. I'd also suggest getting some artifact/enchantment removal such as Krosan Grip one of the best in this as it has split second, another card I highly recommend is Bant Charm one of the most versatile instant printed in these colors. some other instants i enjoy and have seen good results with are Teferi's Protection , Plasm Capture / Mana Drain , Render Silent , Arcane Denial , Dawn Charm and Heroic Intervention . Those are just some of my recommendations! I may have some more but You'd really need to let me know what direction you want to go!!
For sorceries, you're in gosh darn green! WHERE ARE THE RAMP SPELLS?!!??!!? Add Farseek , and since we have big fatty CMC angels, Recross the Paths puts in some work! Kodama's Reach and Explosive Vegetation are better than cards like Rampant Growth because 1) it gives card advantage (2 lands for 1 card) and 2) gives us more mana to work with during the late game! (this is when angel decks typically win). other ramp spells I use are Cultivate and Traverse the Outlands .
I've noticed this deck does not have a SINGLE BOARD WIPE, as big as our angels are for the CMC, we won't be able to cast them until later, board wipes are essential to have especially since you aren't running any pillow forts kind of cards, I HIGHLY recommend adding some, cards that I've always had in my white decks are Austere Command , Rout , Supreme Verdict , Cleansing Nova , Descend upon the Sinful , Planar Cleansing and Mass Calcify . Some other sources that are more focused with tribal is Harsh Mercy sure each player gets to pick a creature type, but that typically is one creature for them, and of course we'll pick angels, so we get the upper-hand in this!
We need some card draw, and this is important as I don't see any in this deck and that is a HUGE mistake. Think about adding cards like Rishkar's Expertise , Praetor's Counsel , Blue Sun's Zenith , Sphinx's Revelation , Finale of Revelation just to name a few that come to mind.
For Lands, these look just.....fine albeit slow, but not quite optimized. I totally understand how people on a budget don't run cards like Misty Rainforest and the like. But as a 3 color deck, I suggest adding in cards like Temple of Enlightenment and Temple of Plenty at least you'll get value from them coming in tapped. Other cards I'd suggest are Krosan Verge , Prairie Stream , Flooded Grove , Wooded Bastion , Seaside Citadel , Path of Ancestry , Forbidden Orchard (cause what is a 1/1 to our angels? PFFT) other lands that give some utility in a pinch are: Scattered Groves and Irrigated Farmland ! other good cards are Glacial Fortress (and it's kin), Hinterland Harbor and Temple Garden !
For Artifacts, I see the signets, I don't typically run the
and X signets just cause I like my land ramp better and won't get destroyed with target removal or artifact/enchantment wipes. but as a 3 color deck, you 100% NEED
basically makes all your mana problems go away, just tap lands for whatever color you need! If you're trying to go for some voltronish cards, I'd suggest going like
, which basically secures that you keep whatever creature you want alive for the rest of the game (unless they exile it with a spell somehow).
is also a good card as people won't want to block because it exiles shit, which is GREAT, let me tell you how many times people didn't block because they wanted to keep their creature(s).
For tribal support cards, there is a very small pool to chose from, So you might want to grab a Vanquisher's Banner , Herald's Horn , Urza's Incubator , Door of Destinies , Coat of Arms , Stoneforge Masterwork and Cryptic Gateway are some cards to look at!
Ok, lets finally get this creature situation fixed! first of, YOU'RE AN ANGEL DECK WITHOUT ITS PRIME GURL!?! WHERE IS MY Avacyn, Angel of Hope ?!?!?!??!!?!?!? I'm disappointed!!!! But for real, add her.
Other cards considering should be Metallic Mimic (if you're going for a 1/1 counter theme.) Solemn Simulacrum should go in here, he's just too good not to have here! Rhonas the Indomitable is a great mana sink, and if you really need to give trample to your creatures, Nylea, God of the Hunt is also a good alternative. Resplendent Angel is a great 3 cmc angel, don't underestimate this gurl! Sephara, Sky's Blade is also a great (shittier) version of our gurl Avacyn, Angel of Hope but still a good effect none-the-less! Iridescent Angel , for a 7 mana angel, I was hesitant at running her in my jenara deck, but has proved to be SO GOSHDARN STRONG! Can literally take ANY damage from ANYTHING (don't mention the Eldrazi to this gurl) but it has soaked up a lot of damage over my games. Archangel of Tithes is a great 4 cmc angel that gives taxes for attacking and defending! great include! Angel of Invention a fabulous card, especially if you have something that gives +1/+1 counters, say a Bow of Nylea , is a great addition to our squad! Angel of Serenity is a good card here as well! great recursion for this deck! since we're in bant, Stoic Angel is also a good include! Akroma, Angel of Wrath can't go wrong with an 8/8 creature with so many keywords and protection(s)!
Also, there is ONE card that is SO GOSHDARN UNDERRATED AND NEVER PLAYED and has literally been the BIGGEST beater I've EVER seen is non-other than Selfless Squire . THIS GURL...Where are my words for this card. It's a fog effect but you get a MASSIVE creature that has to be answered or your opponent die! I've had people swing at me for 20+ damage, not worried because of Selfless Squire and she becomes a huge creature, give her trample and/or indestructible, good game! This gurl is so badass she can oftentimes beat an ELDRAZI TITAN 1v1 (in terms of power/toughness). Best and most fun card I'VE EVER PLAYED IN A CREATURE! 50/10 would recommend!
5 months ago
5 months ago
Hey, man! I looked into your deck and I would probably go with a decklist that is a little more consistent. My primary deck is Azorius artifact-control, so this is up my alley.
Essentially, it looks like you are trying to hit infinite mana ASAP. I bumped up your Isochron Scepter 's to max, and dropped all your Sol Ring s in favor of Basalt Monolith s. While at face value the monoliths look lesser, they go infinite on their own with Isochron and Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth are a complicated, but instant two-card-combo.
Azorius is awesome at control, but can run a little slow compared to some other color combos. A little stax/pillow fort components like Propaganda and Ghostly Prison should keep people from swinging at you as often and you have mana for days.
I trimmed down your creature base so that you had a higher probability of going infinite and added two Palladium Myr s to help that process along. Render Silent and Supreme Verdict can save you from other control decks, and you shouldn't have consistency issues at all, so I pulled a few copies of Tinker .
Your win cons are Infinite Mana + Sands of Delirium , swinging with a Metalwork Colossus , or just hitting that 0 button on Tezzeret, Cruel Machinist and swinging for lethal. I know you are put against mill semi-frequently, so I tossed in a Leyline of Sanctity (which is being re-printed in M20!) and I pumped up your land-base to just below the standard for a 60 card deck (24 lands).
I did not go through and hyperlink everything, just new cards I have added.
- 4x Isochron Scepter
- 1x Prototype Portal
- 1x Rings of Brighthearth
- 4x Sands of Delirium
- 1x Sensei's Divining Top
- 4x Basalt Monolith
- 2x Azorius Signet
- 1x Mystic Speculation
- 1x Tinker
- 1x Supreme Verdict
- 1x Academy Ruins
- 7x Ancient Den
- 1x Inventors' Fair
- 8x Seat of the Synod
- 1x Tolarian Academy
- 1x Temple of Enlightenment
- 1x Azorius Chancery
- 1x Reliquary Tower
- 1x Buried Ruin
- 1x Maze of Ith
- 2x Metalwork Colossus
- 1x Urza, Lord High Artificer
- 2x Palladium Myr
Render Silent occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
WU (Azorius): 1.57%
WUB (Esper): 0.4%