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Disdainful Stroke Discussion
1 week ago
Okay, sorry, I was at FNM so couldn't get back in a timely manner.
On a budget, I would drop a copy of Essence Scatter or two to add in a Disdainful Stroke and if you drop two, a Negate. I would normally drop the Niv Mizzets for the board and go up a Firemind's Research and a Guttersnipe.
1 week ago
Greatl recommend a single Dream Eater mainboard, even over Lyra, a Disdainful Stroke over a Essence Scatter, and a Shock over a Shivan Fire for the occasional bit of damage to a walker that came out low on loyalty, like a Vraska, Golgari Queen that -3'd a Seal Away or something.
Also, an Ixalan's Binding for the sideboard is really important, I'd drop the Archaeologist for it, as I haven't found it to be better than a Ral for the board or something, and haven't needed one myself in any matchup.
1 week ago
Hey, good ideas here I like Grixis as pure tapout control rather than draw go or a combination of the two.
You're combining the two different control strategies; instead consider focusing on one of them and cutting the other? I think if you're dedicated to main deck Thief of Sanity then consider 4x Thief. It's the new Glint-Sleeve Siphoner as far as impact; it must be answered or it will take over the game. You're dedicated to tapping out because if Thief survives then you'll want to use your mana each turn to play the card you steal. I suggest going all out tapout control with main deck 4x Thought Erasure and 3-4x Notion Rain. These are excellent cards to help smooth your draws. Consider cutting the counterspells? Instead just sideboard Negate and Disdainful Stroke?
The curve of turn two Erasure, turn three Thief or Rain, turn four Bolas or Contempt or Soot, turn five Whisperer is very good. Consider main deck Erasure to help to protect Thief? Turn two Erasure take your opponent's removal for Thief and then turn three Thief helps to clear the way for Thief. Consider Lazav, the Multifarious? Lazav can be additional copies of Thief or Whisperer because Thief is going to die having access to Thief from your graveyard is good.
Consider this creature base:
- 4x Thief
- 2x Lazav
- 3-4x Bolas
- 3x Whisperer
Consider this other spells base:
- 4x Erasure
- 3-4x Rain
- 4x Contempt
- 3x Coil
- 2x Cast Down
- 2x Soot (more in the sideboard)
- 2x Search
- 1x Reborn (more in the sideboard)
- 1x Ral
- 1x Karn
- 1x Angrath
Good luck with your deck.
1 week ago
Very well. Here goes;
First and foremost, mana is very important. Your calculation is spot on. However, the & need a little bit of tuning. The base could go down slightly, while elevating your sources due to necessity. So, for example - Hinterland Harbor could become Blooming Marsh. Also, for your off color fetchlands (I know that they serve their purpose), if possible, try to make trades for Polluted Delta. It would seriously make all the difference. On another note; man lands are extremely useful in midrange/control shells. I know that Creeping Tar Pit is slightly expensive, but Lumbering Falls is a decent replacement, along with Treetop Village. The choice is yours regarding those two.
Now, as for actual meat & bones, I would start with the creature selection. I know that Snapcaster Mage is expensive, but Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip is a great substitute. the only drawbackis that Jace does not have Flash, however, Jace has reoccurring card selection and may or may not grant better draws.
Also, Scavenging Ooze is a very nice inclusion and gets larger with time, while helping out against weaker matchups, i.e. burn, dredge.
So for creature changes, in my humble opinion - I would do something like this:
4x Grim Flayer
Now, onto non-creature spells. Personally, removing Seasons Past, Disdainful Stroke, Disallow, and other clunkier spells would intensify this decks pressure aspect. I would also work on finding a way to trade or save up for some allotment of Assassin's Trophy. The card does what Abrupt Decay cannot when necessary. Allow me to make a suggestion;
-2x Spell Pierce
-1x Seasons Past
-3x Serum Visions
+1x Cast Down Hits Tron creatures and big bodies that Push cannot.
these two Jaces just do not apply enough pressure/concern for their mana investment.
for any of these as you see fit
+(x) Ob Nixilis Reignited
+(x) Jace Beleren
I hope that this assists you in your journey to build . feel free to pick my brain and pardon me for the late reply friend.
1 week ago
Absolutely. They way convoke is worded tapped creatures can pay for or 1 mana of their color so just like you say tapping 5 creatures (minimum one of them has to be white of course) will make Venerated Loxodon practically free, but technically his CMC will still be 5 as normal, in case your opponent wants to Disdainful Stroke it.
2 weeks ago
oh i didnt put it up yet Argy . its kinda still being vigorously play-tested, but basically what i did was take out all the cards from my walls deck that seemed to under-perform, and replaced them with answers. the walls block everything that isnt big, and everything that is is answered with Conclave Tribunal, Ixalan's Binding, Essence Scatter and Disdainful Stroke. The deck basically forces control players to play stuff like Teferi, Hero of Dominaria 2-4 turns later than they would like to. So im my case if i dont counter the welp, i need to go through great lengths to deal with it, and even if i deal with dragon after dragon, and you dont ever get a 4/4 on the field, i still will be taking 3 damage a turn from that little beast. 2 from his attack and 1 from his triggered ability.
2 weeks ago
I wouldn't play Disdainful Stroke on the main, maybe side. Maybe some cheap removal instead like Cast Down. Also i would play one less Doom Whisperer and would cut Connive / Concoct and put Thief of Sanity into main. And i wouldn't play the guildgate. You already have 8 Doublelands, so fill up with basics. Then I would play 23-24 lands, maybe 2 copies of Field of Ruin to deal with Azcanta or some other deadly Lands. With that many Surveil you can easily filter. That brings me to Search for Azcanta Flip. Another Opportunity to put Creeping Chill into grave.House Guildmage for more surveil and fieldcontrol.
Duress has to be in the sideboard against other control/mirror matches. Negate is another valuable sidecard. Whispering Snitch is a card you want in the main, if not cut it from side, as you have to surveil for damage. Selective Snare against some tokens, as Emmara can be cruel.