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Black Sun's Zenith
Put X -1/-1 counters on each creature. Shuffle Black Sun's Zenith into its owner's library.
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Black Sun's Zenith Discussion
22 minutes ago
I'm not sold on the idea of Black Sun's Zenith in this deck, simply because of it killing Plague Stinger, Ichor Rats and Ichorclaw Myr by default (unless Hand of the Praetors is in play). Although I will say that i could definitely see the potential if you're not worried about killing your own creatures.
4 days ago
ok so first i have to ask again, is Primeval Titan banned in your meta or no?
cards that can easily deal with aggro or dps style decks to protect would probably be useful, have you looked into Toxic Deluge or Black Sun's Zenith they go together very well with atraxas proliferate and lifelinkLightmine Field is a card im testing out to deal with people that try to swarm the field...
also i think u have 1 to many cards in your deck. i think ur at 101 out of 100 when counting commander
5 days ago
I think Greater Good might deserve a slot in here. I ran Uril for a little bit and there was a lot of tutoring for Toxic Deluge, Black Sun's Zenith, Merciless Eviction, or Cyclonic Rift. At least with GG out you can sac him if he's gonna die and refill your hand.
And once it's on the board there's no cost to sacrifice and it also counts as an enchantment to boost, cost less, draw off trigger etc.
1 week ago
If you're looking for a pretty budget approach to upgrading the precon to mostly do +1 Counters, I have an atraxa list here that would probably be valuable for you to look through - Mathraxa, The Counter Queen
I'll explain a few of the changes I think could benefit the deck the most right off the bat -
Hangarback Walker, Chasm Skulker - Both of these creatures benefit from +1 counters, but also give you value when they are destroyed - it's crucial to have a couple of these to help fortify yourself against board wipes or spot removal, their value in this deck is very high.
Prime Speaker Zegana, Rhystic Study, Tamiyo, Field Researcher - Much needed card draw; Zegana synergizes well with the deck, Rhystic Study is useful for Multiplayer games in general where you have access to blue and is hard to remove since it's an enchantment, and Tamiyo can be proliferated on for amazing card draw value, and her ultimate allows you to cast anything from your hand for free.
Mikaeus, the Lunarch, Gavony Township, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood - These cards help you place counters on your creatures; this can be crucial to allow your counter engine to apply to any creature that doesn't ETB with counters on it, Atraxa in particular; it helps her not get blasted by 4 damage removal and things like Breya's activated ability.
Black Sun's Zenith is definitely an amazing removal/debuff spell for an Atraxa deck - since you can manipulate how many counters you put with Proliferate, you can technically turn some creatures into 1/1's and never actually kill them. Sometimes this has value for cards that have graveyard effects or are easy to recur, and sometimes you can use this as a political tool to avoid killing one player's creatures, or manipulate which of your opponents has the advantage in a given fight.
There are plenty other useful ones, like Contagion Engine, Spike Weaver, and tons of planeswalkers you could add, like most of the Ajani's, but that depends on your budget and how you want to approach your win conditions.
If you're going for alternate Infect wins, know that it's really hard to achieve without putting a huge emphasis on Infect within your deck. I think with Atraxa the best way would be to cast have a strong Stax shell and spells that give poison counters, and then lots of ways to proliferate while ensuring no one on the board can do a lot before everyone dies at the same time. This would be a completely different deck though.
1 week ago
It's a pretty awesome deck! Overall, you've got a lot of solid spells in here! You went for a little more creatures with yours than I did on mine, but it looks good! A few suggestions, Army of the Damned is a rather expensive spell that can instantly make yourself a threat if you need to, or if you need to defend yourself. Diabolic Revelation is an amazing tutor if you have the mana to pump into X like crazy. Mindmoil is a descent way to cycle through your hand to keep your hand fresh. Also, I would recommend all three of the Zeniths that you can run in this deck, as Black Sun's Zenith is board control, Blue Sun's Zenith is value, and Red Sun's Zenith is targeted removal of a creature or player. Not only that, but because they shuffle back in, they're great reusable spells. Got a pretty good start!
1 week ago
I like ur idea MindAblaze. Stuff like Carnifex Demon and Black Sun's Zenith should be fun with Atraxa. Also thanks for the warning dlamars. Kinda thinking of not putting infect in it now that u say that. And thx for the great advice everyone.
2 weeks ago
Phenax, God of Deception,Rise of the Dark Realms, Black Sun's Zenith, Jace, Memory Adept, Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver, Whispering Madness, Windfall,
Mimic Vat, Grave Betrayal, Propaganda, Rhystic Study, Damnation, Languish, Curtains' Call,
2 weeks ago
Casey4321: Toxic Deluge (and the rest of the -X/-X sweepers) do require a bit of setup, admittedly. But if I set X as less than Yahenni's toughness (hopefully still a large number), she'll get a lot bigger and I'll have cleared the field of everything (even opposing indestructible creatures). You may be right about Black Sun's Zenith, though. It doesn't "wear off" at EOT so Yahenni ends up being much smaller :(
pet_snake covered this topic well already :)