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Temple of Plenty
Temple of Plenty enters the battlefield tapped.
When Temple of Plenty enters the battlefield, scry 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put that card on the bottom of your library.)
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Temple of Plenty Discussion
2 months ago
So now I'm going to organize this post is from different types of cards and alternatives and/or strictly better cards that have the same Converted mana cost!
Let's start with enchantments! It seems like your all over the place, which is fine, but you have aura enchantments and land enchantments. which seems a little weird to me! Normally you want to either go a route for your deck, and this seems unorganized, so let us fix that! Serra Aviary is a bad card, cause it also gives opponents fliers +1/+1, we don't want this. So id suggest either going with some like Citadel Siege cause sure, it won't buff all creatures, and it'll give a boost to one creature you want per turn, or it can be used defensively which is always a plus! I'd also suggest going Dictate of Heliod cause it gives an extra +1/+1 for one extra mana, AND IT HAS FLASH! For cards that are better for the 4 cmc are Light from Within , Force of Virtue , Marshal's Anthem .
For protection cards or cards that accumulate value, instead of Angelic Renewal and Angelic Accord , cards which can be good, but you don't have a whole lof of life gain or recursion to run these two! So I'd suggest cards like Sigil of the New Dawn , Kindred Boon , Privileged Position and Asceticism are 100% more effective in protecting your creatures or giving good value.
Now that we got enchantments out of the way! lets work on these instants! I love some of these instants, Absorb is a fun card that I'm 100% gonna get, same with Archmage's Charm ! Disdainful Stroke , Essence Scatter (and the like), Commencement of Festivities and Guardian Angel are all weaker versions of cards like Mana Drain and Counterspell which I'd upgrade with. I'd also suggest getting some artifact/enchantment removal such as Krosan Grip one of the best in this as it has split second, another card I highly recommend is Bant Charm one of the most versatile instant printed in these colors. some other instants i enjoy and have seen good results with are Teferi's Protection , Plasm Capture / Mana Drain , Render Silent , Arcane Denial , Dawn Charm and Heroic Intervention . Those are just some of my recommendations! I may have some more but You'd really need to let me know what direction you want to go!!
For sorceries, you're in gosh darn green! WHERE ARE THE RAMP SPELLS?!!??!!? Add Farseek , and since we have big fatty CMC angels, Recross the Paths puts in some work! Kodama's Reach and Explosive Vegetation are better than cards like Rampant Growth because 1) it gives card advantage (2 lands for 1 card) and 2) gives us more mana to work with during the late game! (this is when angel decks typically win). other ramp spells I use are Cultivate and Traverse the Outlands .
I've noticed this deck does not have a SINGLE BOARD WIPE, as big as our angels are for the CMC, we won't be able to cast them until later, board wipes are essential to have especially since you aren't running any pillow forts kind of cards, I HIGHLY recommend adding some, cards that I've always had in my white decks are Austere Command , Rout , Supreme Verdict , Cleansing Nova , Descend upon the Sinful , Planar Cleansing and Mass Calcify . Some other sources that are more focused with tribal is Harsh Mercy sure each player gets to pick a creature type, but that typically is one creature for them, and of course we'll pick angels, so we get the upper-hand in this!
We need some card draw, and this is important as I don't see any in this deck and that is a HUGE mistake. Think about adding cards like Rishkar's Expertise , Praetor's Counsel , Blue Sun's Zenith , Sphinx's Revelation , Finale of Revelation just to name a few that come to mind.
For Lands, these look just.....fine albeit slow, but not quite optimized. I totally understand how people on a budget don't run cards like Misty Rainforest and the like. But as a 3 color deck, I suggest adding in cards like Temple of Enlightenment and Temple of Plenty at least you'll get value from them coming in tapped. Other cards I'd suggest are Krosan Verge , Prairie Stream , Flooded Grove , Wooded Bastion , Seaside Citadel , Path of Ancestry , Forbidden Orchard (cause what is a 1/1 to our angels? PFFT) other lands that give some utility in a pinch are: Scattered Groves and Irrigated Farmland ! other good cards are Glacial Fortress (and it's kin), Hinterland Harbor and Temple Garden !
For Artifacts, I see the signets, I don't typically run the
and X signets just cause I like my land ramp better and won't get destroyed with target removal or artifact/enchantment wipes. but as a 3 color deck, you 100% NEED
basically makes all your mana problems go away, just tap lands for whatever color you need! If you're trying to go for some voltronish cards, I'd suggest going like
, which basically secures that you keep whatever creature you want alive for the rest of the game (unless they exile it with a spell somehow).
is also a good card as people won't want to block because it exiles shit, which is GREAT, let me tell you how many times people didn't block because they wanted to keep their creature(s).
For tribal support cards, there is a very small pool to chose from, So you might want to grab a Vanquisher's Banner , Herald's Horn , Urza's Incubator , Door of Destinies , Coat of Arms , Stoneforge Masterwork and Cryptic Gateway are some cards to look at!
Ok, lets finally get this creature situation fixed! first of, YOU'RE AN ANGEL DECK WITHOUT ITS PRIME GURL!?! WHERE IS MY Avacyn, Angel of Hope ?!?!?!??!!?!?!? I'm disappointed!!!! But for real, add her.
Other cards considering should be Metallic Mimic (if you're going for a 1/1 counter theme.) Solemn Simulacrum should go in here, he's just too good not to have here! Rhonas the Indomitable is a great mana sink, and if you really need to give trample to your creatures, Nylea, God of the Hunt is also a good alternative. Resplendent Angel is a great 3 cmc angel, don't underestimate this gurl! Sephara, Sky's Blade is also a great (shittier) version of our gurl Avacyn, Angel of Hope but still a good effect none-the-less! Iridescent Angel , for a 7 mana angel, I was hesitant at running her in my jenara deck, but has proved to be SO GOSHDARN STRONG! Can literally take ANY damage from ANYTHING (don't mention the Eldrazi to this gurl) but it has soaked up a lot of damage over my games. Archangel of Tithes is a great 4 cmc angel that gives taxes for attacking and defending! great include! Angel of Invention a fabulous card, especially if you have something that gives +1/+1 counters, say a Bow of Nylea , is a great addition to our squad! Angel of Serenity is a good card here as well! great recursion for this deck! since we're in bant, Stoic Angel is also a good include! Akroma, Angel of Wrath can't go wrong with an 8/8 creature with so many keywords and protection(s)!
Also, there is ONE card that is SO GOSHDARN UNDERRATED AND NEVER PLAYED and has literally been the BIGGEST beater I've EVER seen is non-other than Selfless Squire . THIS GURL...Where are my words for this card. It's a fog effect but you get a MASSIVE creature that has to be answered or your opponent die! I've had people swing at me for 20+ damage, not worried because of Selfless Squire and she becomes a huge creature, give her trample and/or indestructible, good game! This gurl is so badass she can oftentimes beat an ELDRAZI TITAN 1v1 (in terms of power/toughness). Best and most fun card I'VE EVER PLAYED IN A CREATURE! 50/10 would recommend!
3 months ago
As Throne of Eldraine Spoilers are flowing like a Fairy Tale Epic, I'll try to explain my reasons for things not mentioned for Allied Colors here yet. Before I do, Delay looks great, but how does Suspend work, & how good is it against opponents? I also suppose all ten Ravnica Signets & Talismans are better than Arcane Signet ? I'm intrigued about this; it seems like:
Is this where the rankings stand for Overall Power for these Mana Rocks? Just checking to be sure.
Finally, I still am guessing there's no substitute for Demonic Tutor unless anyone can say different. For now, though, It's a lost cause. Anyways, the list:
Arctic Flats Snow Taplands
Gavony Township Innistrad Location Duals
Grasslands Tap Fetches
Horizon Canopy Future-Sighted/Horizon Duals (Missing 4 other allied cards.)
Riftstone Portal Graveyard Duals (Or something...)
Saltcrusted Steppe Storage Duals
Sungrass Prairie The Crappy Fetchlands
Veldt Duals Utilizing Depletion Counters
Vitu-Ghazi, the City-Tree Ravnica Location Duals
Anything else as Dual Lands you may already be familiar w/. I just wanted to mention the worst Allied-Only, Nearly awful Allied-Only, & nothing else. Since I'm reduced to a situation where nearly all my cards in my Landbase need to not ETB Tapped, I want your opinions on the worst of the worst. & I'd like your opinions for the ones that didn't get noted that ETB Tapped, but is still good; which bumps off, for instance:
Stirring Wildwood Man Lands
Temple of Plenty Scry Lands
Selesnya Guildgate Guild Lands
If I'm missing out on anything, either:
A: It's a more common Two Color Land than these types.
B: So many use them, there is no point in mentioning them here.
Sorry for the inconvenience for all these kinds of lands. I just want to see as too which ones are worth adding... Thanks in advance.
3 months ago
- Command Tower
- Seaside Citadel
- Temple Garden
- Hallowed Fountain
- Breeding Pool
- Glacial Fortress
- Sunpetal Grove
- Hinterland Harbor
- Windswept Heath
- Flooded Strand
- Bant Panorama
- Misty Rainforest
- City of Brass
- Temple of Plenty
- Exotic Orchard
- Polluted Delta
- Reflecting Pool
- Wooded Foothills
- Tropical Island
- Krosan Verge
- Marsh Flats
3 months ago
I love equipment, I am hoping for an upgrade to the preconstructed deck and I came across this one, I massaged the mana base a bit with some stuff I already have, but thank you for continuing to tweak, I hope that the person piloting this at the table has fun (I tend to bring a dozen or so commander decks to game night so folk don't have to be out of pocket to play ... and I'm addicted).
4 months ago
First of all, I would replace Angelic Gift With either Gryff's Boon or Rancor , just like you said in the description. Why? Because Rampage of the Clans would destroy it, and it gets returned to your hand/battlefield whatsoever. Then, I would highly recommend a few copies of Collected Company , since it can be cast in an opponent's turn. Did it occur to you that red als also some great centaurs? For example, Burning-Tree Shaman , Stonebrow, Krosan Hero , Nikya of the Old Ways and Fanatic of Xenagos . Utopia Sprawl is in my opinion better than Verdant Haven . Then there's Conclave Cavalier , which is totally bonkers, although that strategy would not be effective when running Collected Company . Rosemane Centaur is also a good addition, but mainly if you run lower CMC creatures. And even though Genesis is not a centaur, flavourwise it would be a nice addition to this list. Maybe one copy of Fated Intervention for some instant-speed pressure. Tribalwise, I would highly recommend Metallic Mimic or Adaptive Automaton to replace the Stoneforge Masterwork , and you can even sacrifice them to Rampage of the Clans , for more value/pressure. Maybe a Mirror Entity to boost your crew in mid/lategame? If your having trouble getting the right creatures at the right time, maybe Eladamri's Call would be a nice tutor in this list. For fun, I would maybe even run a copy of Descendants' Path . You could also add some artifacts that suit nicely in any tribal deck. Think of cards like Icon of Ancestry , Obelisk of Urd , Bow of Nylea , Eldrazi Monument or maybe even Coat of Arms . Maybe even add a Selesnya Signet for fixing. All artifacts which you can even sacrifice to Rampage of the Clans . Also consider some Changelings, since they're basically just Centaurs... Chameleon Colossus . You could also add Oath of the Ancient Wood , if you're planning on running this amount of enchantments/auras. Then there's lands. I realize you want to keep this list budget, that's ok, in your case I would still run several Canopy Vista , Fortified Village , Temple of Plenty , Mutavault (which is a centaur), or Oran-Rief, the Vastwood . Chronicler of Heroes goes nicely with Lagonna-Band Trailblazer . Centaur Omenreader is also a pretty solid card by simple making your creatures cost 2 less when it's tapped. You also need cardadvantage. Think of cards like Harmonize . Also, in this meta, you'll need some hard removal. Think of cards like Dismember , Path to Exile , Generous Gift or Beast Within . You can also consider some allround lords and anthem effects. Maybe cards like Wilt-Leaf Liege , Always Watching , Glorious Anthem , Gaea's Anthem , Radiant Destiny , Hall of Triumph , Force of Virtue , Beastmaster Ascension or Collective Blessing . Maybe even a Song of Freyalise ? Yet again, all cards you can eventually sacrifice for Rampage of the Clans . You could even add some retrieval in this list, think of cards like Noxious Revival , Regrowth or Eternal Witness . Sideboard wise, I would highly recommend cards like Rest in Peace , Stony Silence , Dryad Militant , Krosan Grip , Damping Sphere , Grafdigger's Cage , Leyline of Sanctity .
This is it for now. When anything relevant comes up, I will let you know.
Keep up the good work.
5 months ago
4-8 is the typical number of removal spells decks run. Path to Exile is the card of choice. I've never invested the $$ in it personally.
In terms of lands, you want to look at a few things: 1) what color, if any is most common in the mana cost of your 1 and 2 CMC spells. 2) what color(s) dominate your color wheel 3) how much money do you want to spend. In many cases, 6 dual lands is enough. If you go with Sunpetal Grove , you'd want to keep pretty many basic lands for it to be worth it. I forgot to mention Razorverge Thicket - that's a fantastic land, too. Canopy Vista is nice if you have spells that specify "forest," but otherwise there are better options. I've been experimenting with combining bounce lands with scry lands lately (for budget grins) IE - Selesnya Sanctuary + Temple of Plenty - it's not particularly good, but with Voyaging Satyr it's not bad. The point is that for the deck it's in, Selesnya Sanctuary 's bounce is actually helpful ( Quicksilver Fountain / Eternity Vessel ) - so it's a good land for that deck. You should think of your land-base not only as a source of mana, but as a versatile mechanic entwined with the rhythm of the deck. If you're going up against opponents bringing stuff back from their graveyard, Scavenger Grounds could be added to the mainboard, but 4x Scavenging Ooze in the sideboard is way better. (in reference to your exile vs destroy comment). I can't believe I forgot this one, but Gavony Township is a no-brainer here if you can afford it. (1x)
I think it's better to put down a creature on T1 than it is to play Hardened Scales. My white +1/+1 counter deck Cocaine plays much faster than any mono-green or selesnya build I've tried, and I've tried quite a few: Engorged Weenies, Sage of counters, Nuclear Proliferation, Elvish Dividends, Counter-Elves, Simestrogen, Spinach, Obese Americans - as you can see, I've included varying number of Hardened Scales in each of these (and I've tested them unevenly) - but the reason I haven't tested more is because the mono-white Cocaine build sets the bar pretty high. It's the fastest, most resilient, and consistent so far. I keep trying to make a green or selesnya deck that matches it, but so far, it's been underwhelming. One of the reasons being that green doesn't have the quality 1CMC creatures white has. A 3/3 creature on T2 isn't as good as a 2/3 and a 2/2 with first strike and vigilance on T2. That is, missing a creature drop on T1 is a pretty serious sacrifice. Modern is a pretty fast format. It's not difficult to build a deck that combos off on T3. I build a lot decks here to explore possibilities. One of the strange conclusions I've come to is that Hardened Scales is too slow. (I realize this is counter-intuitive, to say the least and that there are probably a lot of people that would want to fight me about it.) Long story short, I'd encourage you to search very hard for as many 1CMC counter creatures and to include at least 4, if not 6-8.
Also, add Metallic Mimic to the list of benefits to tribal +1/+1 counters, though I think this spell is also over-valued - it's really not very good by T4. It's both slow and timing-sensitive.
5 months ago
This is the first deck I ever built dating back to the 2015 prerelease. It's evolved a ton since then, clearly, with all the cards from later sets in it. That's kinda why the cards are so seemingly random. I haven't purchased cards for this deck yet. Everything I have was either pulled or traded for.
There's currently 69 cards because to be honest, I really struggle with deciding what to remove to meet 60 cards. I feel like they are all pretty good and serve a distinct purpose in the deck.
I definitely want those lands. I don't really like Fertile Thicket either. Probably remove the Selesnya Guildgate s because they're too slow too, huh? I like Oran-Rief, the Vastwood , Sunpetal Grove , and Temple of Plenty . I love the combo of Canopy Vista + Windswept Heath , but that seems like a lot of money for land, although I might justify it if I could see it's worth. What are the most important things I'm looking for when choosing land?
The Wanderer , Suspension Field , Wanderer's Strike , Hunt the Weak , and Prison Realm all help with protecting from creatures that I otherwise wouldn't be able to deal with, and Dragonscale Boon and Stony Strength surprise my opponent when they're attacking or try to mess with tapped creatures. What I really need are a couple cards that exile permanents rather than creatures, though. I have a couple of Generous Gift s in another deck that I could pull out and put into here.
If I cut The Wanderer , all instants, sorceries, and enchantments and dropped down to 24 creatures, I could have space for 8 cards if I kept 23 lands. What do you think the best would be the best 8 cards to have? Right now I'm thinking: 2x Generous Gift , Bow of Nylea , Nissa, Voice of Zendikar , 2x Blessed Alliance , Oblivion Ring , maybe Hardened Scales (how bad is it really if you play it first turn, considering all I would have to play other than that would be a hexdrinker, and it benefits massively from it if I can beef him before he gets protection from everything?) or Harvest Season ? (but that wouldn't that only be good with some landfall stuff or Vinelasher Kudzu , like you had said?)
Would that provide me with enough board removal to be consistently successful?
5 months ago
These are your best creatures: Evolution Sage, Hexdrinker, Huatli's Raptor, Managorger Hydra, Mistcutter Hydra, Tuskguard Captain. I suggest you increase most of those creatures to a full set (4x each) and cut the rest.
You currently have 69 cards included. That number should be reduced to 60. I suggest cutting all the Instants, Sorceries, and Enchantments except Pledge of Unity. If after all the cutting there is room left over, I've outlined a number of spells that will add dynamism and range both with the creatures above and with other spells below.
I believe good lands are more important than Planeswalkers. Llanowar Reborn and Oran-Rief, the Vastwood are perhaps valuable enough to consider. Sunpetal Grove , Canopy Vista , Temple of Plenty , Fortified Village , Temple Garden , Windswept Heath are all worth considering, depending on your budget. Swapping out your slow lands for those listed above will improve both speed and reliability.
My thoughts on +1/+1 counters decks: Hardened Scales is overkill, over-rated, and slow. It's a very powerful card that doesn't necessarily speed decks to a win. The best +1/+1 counter decks include only low CMC creatures that can repeatedly provide their own counters. Creatures, especially any that get really big, will get removed pretty consistently. So getting lots of creatures down and swinging quickly and consistently is essential. This is all, of course, just my 2 cents.
I'll point out that there are enough creatures and spells that it's very possible to build solid mono-white or mono-green +1/+1 creature decks. I actually think it's easier to build a solid deck staying mono-colored - it's possible to go mono-color tribal with Humans, Soldiers, Elves, Allies, Oozes etc. The advantage to going tribal is more than just synergy - it's also a handy framework to round out a deck with advantages while also keeping the deck focused. Going tribal also opens the door to Cavern of Souls and Unclaimed Territory . I'd go so far as to say there are so many really solid +1/+1 counter spells, one of the hardest things about building a deck is narrowing it down to a well-honed point. I'm not saying I think you need to go mono-colored and/or tribal here, just pointing out ways to help focus the deck.
Temple of Plenty occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.05%
GW (Selesnya): 1.29%
GWU (Bant): 0.62%