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Temple of Plenty
Temple of Plenty enters the battlefield tapped.
When Temple of Plenty enters the battlefield, scry 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put that card on the bottom of your library.)
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Temple of Plenty Discussion
3 days ago
Some thoughts on some of your card choices, in no particular order.
Sylvan Reclamation for all intents and purposes in a deck like this is strictly better than Relic Crush. Trading out one generic mana for one White mana (which 99 times out of 100 you WILL have) gets you basic landcycling AND exile instead of destroy. The switch is a no-brainer, imo.
Thought Vessel isn't doing a ton for this deck. How often will you be at or above your hand limit for more than a turn or two? Card draw in GW isn't that impressive, even with Rishkar's Expertise and company. I think you'd be better off with Talisman of Unity over Thought Vessel, and I'd dump the Spellbook for a Sol Ring so you can get some more ramp going.
For a deck that wants to get ahead early, I believe you're running far too many ETB tapped lands. Blossoming Sands, Grasslands, Krosan Verge, Mosswort Bridge, Myriad Landscape, and Stirring Wildwood will all set you back a turn on mana production. I'd say Temple of Plenty too, but at least you're getting the scry on that. I'm Opting not to run that, but that's your call! Get some more rocks in there like Selesnya Signet, and be on the lookout for the new Unclaimed Territory in Ixalan, which is pretty much budget Cavern of Souls. Some more relevant utility lands like Rogue's Passage over Reliquary Tower would be worthwhile, too.
If you can, I'd sooner run Brimaz, King of Oreskos over Jedit Ojanen of Efrava. The forestwalk is nice, but 6 mana is steep. Brimaz is only 3 CMC and provides an excellent source defense with Vigilance.
Running Lost Leonin signals to me that you want to use Infect combined with the Arahbo's eminence for a quick kill. Double Strike enablers like Duelist's Heritage, Silverblade Paladin, and Ajani, Caller of the Pride (did somebody ask for flavor?) are huge boons for this, and in general allow you to get the most of Arahbo's pumps. Not to mention them having 3 CMC and similar casting costs as Lost Leonin lead to a superb curve out of your plays. Grafted Exoskeleton also turns any of your cats into a bigger Lost Leonin, for what it's worth!
The last comment that I'll make, and this stems from "mistakes" I was making when first build this deck, is too much focus on cheap cats as soon as quickly being too big a focus. Smashing your opponent for 6 with a 2-drop sounds appealing, but that's only going to go so far in multiplayer. If you're doing 1v1 commander, that's largely fine, but you'll want to diversify your line-up if you want to hold your own in multiplayer. Admittedly, I'm still trying to squeeze these in my own deck, but it wouldn't be remiss of you to include cards like Reveillark and Karmic Guide in here for some recursion. (Also, those two go infinite with Leonin Relic-Warder, Greater Good, and a mana rock!)
1 week ago
Already some good ideas suggested, but another I was thinking besides Opt of course that you already mentioned is maybe the scry lands, of Temple of Plenty, Temple of Enlightenment and Temple of Mystery?
3 weeks ago
I have considered it and while I like it early game, the other advanced lands especially Temple of Plenty are much better late game. The scry ability is better than the possibility of having an untapped land. I have also found that late game you only have 1 land in hand. So the scry even the gain life of Graypelt Refuge is better at that point.
3 weeks ago
Saw your Reddit thread, but don't have a Reddit account so I figured I comment here. Long story short your early game is weak.
The first issue I see is lands. All of your nonbasic lands come into play tapped. This slows you down massively. There's plenty of nonbasics that come in untapped that won't murder your wallet, OG dual lands, fetches, & shocks aren't manditory. Command Tower, Opal Palace, Cinder Glade, Canopy Vista, Rootbound Crag, Sunpetal Grove, Battlefield Forge, & Karplusan Forest all enter untapped & all cost under $3. If you need to play taplands at least play the temple cycle from Theros block that gives you a scry, the most expensive of which in your colors being Temple of Plenty at $3
The second issue is ramp. A lot of your ramp is suboptimal even on a budget. Artifact ramp isn't that great when you're in green since many people will run artifact removal, but not many run land removal. I would cut all of the artifact ramp except for sol ring in favor of land ramp like Sakura-Tribe Elder, Wood Elves, Farhaven Elf, Nature's Lore, & Farseek. I personally prefer my land ramp to cost 2 or less if spell based, 3 or less if creature based, and mana doublers at any cost. The nice thing about the elves above & guys like Yavimaya Elder is that after they get your lands they make great Skullclamp fodder & okay beaters if you have Elesh Norn.
Third finishers. I think you have too many "win conditions". You only need 6-8 Finisher Creatures that'll be what you win with, and you can even get away with less since your commander is a finisher itself. You currently have:Ant QueenAvengerChampion of LambholtDecimator of ProvincesDragonlair SpiderElesh NornMirror EntityMycolothJazal Omnath Rampaging BalothsRegal ForceYou don't need 12 big stompy beaters/token steroids. I'd personally cut Ant Queen, Baloths, Spider, Jazal, & Omnath. This leaves you with Avenger & Mycoloth in the make a ton of dudes category, Elesh Norn, Decimator, & Mirror Entity in the pump my army category, & Champion & Regal Force in the I'm a dumb beater for extreme value category. This gives you more room to run low costed utility dudes who will either find the Finisher you need, make get you to them faster, or disrupt your opponent. Guys like Reclamation Sage, Acidic Slime, Scavenging Ooze, Qasali Pridemage, Karmic Guide, Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Spellbreaker Behemoth, Fierce Empath, Tireless Tracker, Prowling Serpopard, Caustic Caterpillar, Elvish Visionary, Manglehorn, Ohran Viper, Aven Mindcensor, & Ulvenwald Tracker just some examples of cards you can add to assist your early game for under $5. If you're willing to spend a little more you can grab Eternal Witness or the new Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist who's price is currently in flux due to how new she is.
Fourth you have a lot of expensive spells that create a massive amount of small tokens. You don't need these. They only give you large numbers of tokens when you already have large numbers of dudes. These cards are "win more cards", in that they only help you when you're already winning. If you're behind & getting wrathed constantly, Deploy to the Front & Nomad's Assemby do absolutely nothing, you want cards that are good regardless of how the game's going. Avenger of Zendikar, Mycoloth, and Malrath should be all the tokens you need. Why dedicate tons of card slots to token production when you can dedicate it to ramp & have Malrath vomit out a similar amount of tokens for a similar cost? It's more card efficient & even if your opponent wraths you'll have a large pile of lands to recast Malrath & do it again.
1 month ago
If you're looking at getting big dudes onto the board, you can't go past Quicksilver Amulet. Since you're using a lot of the Theros Gods, Dragon Arch will also work well. In addition, Cryptic Gateway would work as well for your gods. Also while it will take a bit of time, Aether Vial is likely to serve you well.
Also, if you intend to use the tap tri-lands, Amulet of Vigor is a requirement. And if you put that in, go for the Theros temple Scry lands: Temple of Abandon, Temple of Deceit, Temple of Enlightenment, Temple of Epiphany, Temple of Malady, Temple of Malice, Temple of Mystery, Temple of Plenty, Temple of Silence, Temple of Triumph
They also fit the god theme of your deck.
If you'd like, take a look at my version of this deck and see if you can find anything there to help:Pantheon of Ages Past
1 month ago
So first of all, TheTinyViking, you can just comment on this thread that you've updated the deck and I'll should see the comment :P
On to commentary...
I think that the deck is looking much better, with actual payoffs for going cat tribal. However, you can still make some upgrades I think. If you don't mind being in topdeck mode for a large portion of the game, that's fine, but it's generally not a good place to be. I would try to find space for cards like Mouth / Feed, Harmonize, or Rishkar's Expertise, with harmonize probably being the most powerful as it's good even if you're behind while the other two aren't.
Finally, your land base could use some upgrades. Scattered Groves, Blossoming Sands, Canopy Vista, Fortified Village, Graypelt Refuge, Stirring Wildwood, Temple of Plenty and Sunpetal Grove are all just actually better than the current tap lands you have in your deck, and Gavony Township, Grove of the Guardian, Desert of the True, and Desert of the Indomitable also all provide additional utility.
I would probably recommend Scattered Groves, Stirring Wildwood, and one of the following: Fortified Village, Temple of Plenty, or Sunpetal Grove as twelve of your lands, with each as four ofs, but aren't needed for budget reasons. For utility lands, you don't NEED any of them for budget reasons, but some mixture of them would provide your deck with more to do in the late game. That being said, no matter what, I would increase the number of white sources in the deck, in order to enable a WW spell on turn two.
2 months ago
Alrighty then. For starters I think you are too concerned with mana fixing. In my experience in playing many games of commander what you have is straight overkill. So I would ditch the panoramas and the Warped Landscape, the Transguild Promenade, Shimmering Grotto, Rupture Spire, the Manalith, and Selesnya Keyrune. You really won't need them. I would replace the lands with basics/ and lands like Fortified Village,Canopy Vista, Temple of Plenty, Temple Garden, Selesnya Guildgate. And then for the Manalith and Keyrune drop them for Kodama's Reach and some other enchantments that I will mention below. You will probably want to run as few artifacts as possible for an enchantress build also. I say this because of one of the recommendations that I have. And now onto the card recommendations
First off for the 11 missing cards I will recommend the following as options (emphasis on options, some of these are pricey which is why so many options): Solitary Confinement, Sylvan Library, Exploration, Open the Vaults, Replenish, Green Sun's Zenith, Worship, Ajani's Chosen, Enlightened Tutor, Eternal Witness, Commune with the Gods, Blind Obedience, Authority of the Consuls, Eladamri's Call, Abundant Growth, Utopia Sprawl, Witchbane Orb , Ground Seal, Grand Abolisher, Nyx-Fleece Ram, Sigarda, Host of Herons, Nylea, God of the Hunt, Heliod, God of the Sun, Seal of Cleansing, Kismet, Soul Snare, Sigarda, Heron's Grace, Courser of Kruphix, Prison Term, Starfield of Nyx, opalessence, Overgrowth, and lastly Stony Silence. Stony Silence is a powerful card that excels in commander. Although at the cost of your artifacts activations. I personally like it for an enchantress build. And remember I am not saying that these are end all be all cards but they are in my experience very useful. And since you have options you can just pick and choose what you like and don't like
I also have some ideas for things you should cut from the deck. Things like Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip, yeah she's cool and all but she doesn't really fit well with the deck and she can die easily and that can be a hassle. Another card which I would cut is White Sun's Zenith, it takes a lot of mana just for some kitty cats and I it does not perform that well in general. Another card I feel is under performing is Archetype of Endurance, personally Asceticism is better if you are concerned about that. And lastly I feel torn about Celestial Archon. I feel like he has potential but I am uncertain.
Ok that is all I have to say! I think anyways... regardless take some time and think about what it is you want to do with what I have recommended. Of course as always the final choice is yours. Please tell me your thoughts after you have mulled it over!
2 months ago
Redelijk betaalbare land die je nodig hebt:
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