Ward of Bones
Each opponent who controls more creatures than you can't play creature cards. The same is true for artifacts, enchantments, and lands.
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Ward of Bones Discussion
1 month ago
Azemotay: Neo's and my list are very close to each other - the only other difference is that I'm running Strip Mine while he isn't. Lotus Petal, Dispel, Prophetic Prism, and Fact or Fiction are all cards that are interchangeable depending on playstyle. I prefer a slightly more controlling and card advantage-heavy version of Teferi, so I like Fact or Fiction a lot. The list as a whole has been moving in that direction as of late, which is also why we've included Manifold Insights. Prophetic Prism and Lotus Petal both increase the deck's speed, and Dispel is basically the 11th best Counterspell we can run if we really need one more than the 10 we already have.
Regarding Lotus Petal, it's basically the super flex slot in my list. Whenever I have something I want to test, I toss it out and add that card instead. For instance, I'm currently testing Silent Arbiter to improve our Edric and Tana/Tymna matchup, and Lotus Petal was the card I took out for it (on a side note: Silent Arbiter is amazing against those decks, and will probably make its way into my main list very soon).
If you have trouble dealing with those decks and they don't go off on, say, Turn 3 regularly, trying out Ward of Bones or maybe even Portcullis might be worth a try. The issue with Portcullis , however, is that ETB effects still happen and its trigger can be responded to, so it won't actually bother Selvala all that much. Then again, with Cursed Totem and Torpor Orb, Teferi is already well-equipped to deal with (some aspects of) Selvala.
1 month ago
I think you could remove some of the creatures and replace them with noncreature cards that have the same or a similar effect and don't cost much money either. For example Torpor Orb instead of Hushwing Gryff, Words of Wind instead of Vedalken Mastermind. You can then use Humility and Cursed Totem to shut down other players' creatures without hindering your own play too much.
The great aspect of Smokestack is that it is not limited to lands and that the counters can become more each turn. It's one turn slower than mana vortex but it's less risky. I played both but have recently replaced the vortex when I stuffed more card draw and counterspells in the deck. I still have Sundial of the Infinite in the deck to end my turn after putting a counter on smokestack...it works with mana vortex too but that one only removes all opponents' lands and leaves other permanents intact.
As for the mass LD, I think the biggest problem with catastrophe is the mana cost. I'd rather play Sunder if you don't have ravages of war because that's an instant! If you play that EOT and in your turn get to play Windfall you got rid of all lands and draw a huge lot of cards as well. I don't use Sunder anymore but rather rely on the constant effect of Mana Breach and Overburden. In your case it could be the land removal you need. Bouncing works a bit against the tapping strategy though...
You see, one change often requires other changes because cards are likely part of a package that has a certain purpose in the deck. The more you remove of such a package the less it makes sense to keep the rest in the deck, especially cards that are not really strong on their own. If you want to keep the tapping strategy I would say you should focus on that and add destruction/sacrifice and not bouncing. My list is about bounce/destruction and prevention of land drops. Unless you use Land Equilibrium (or Ward of Bones as the cheaper option) and have a reliable way to find it in your deck, you shouldn't look too much at the bouncing stuff because they don't go along well with tapping. That's the problem with trying to combine elements of different builds.
1 month ago
If you're looking for Cheap stax decks, I'd recommend Derevi, Empyrial Tactician over Narset personally, but I'll throw up a list here just in case.
- Dream Tides
- Frozen AEther
- Mana Vortex
- Mist of Stagnation
- Price of Glory
- Rising Waters
- War Tax
- War's Toll
- Web of Inertia
- Ward of Bones
- Mana Web
- Possessed Portal
- Torpor Orb
- Razia's Purification
Really, any card that screws with the landbase are good with commanders like Narset, and Zur. Anyway, Sorry for the long list, and good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Ok! Combining some stuff I've noticed from playing the deck, and some analysis regarding average CMC and Mana Curve and whatnot, this is my edit list that I'll be considering:
Cards to add:
- Prismatic Geoscope
- Conqueror's Flail
- Planar Bridge
- Tempt with Discovery
- Auramancer's Guise
- Master Warcraft
- Sterling Grove
Cards to remove:
Any suggestions on these edits and the deck in general would be great! :)
1 month ago
Go Extraplanar Lens & Snow-Covered Islands if that is the case as it keeps things nice and selfish (hardly anybody runs snow covered lands). Caged Sun is an option but it is high in cmc and doesn't gel as nicely as Extraplanar Lens does with Land Equilibrium, however it still gives you a considerable leg up so I would run it regardless.
I was suggesting the Doubling Cube as it is a very easy combo with either Teferi or Tezzeret, and The Chain Veil. Then just Sunder or Upheaval, play all your stuff in hand with the floating mana and watch your opponents squirm as they try to recover. You can loop Upheaval with a small Archaeomancer or Mnemonic Wall but in saying that you have done well to keep your creature count minimal so I wouldnt strongly recommend the last two, but if you do come around to the Cube then these additions are a no brainer as they further solidify the cubes addition to the deck.
Ward of Bones is another card you can use to keep peeps in check, it may be 6 cmc but it will hose most strategies if played at the correct time.
Capsize and Whispers of the Muse could be used alongside Inexorable Tide to combo out too, so long as Teferi is untapping 6 mana and The Chain Veil with his -1 ability (almost a certainty if he is untapping Doubling Cube). It can also be done with Tezzeret, however he absolutely needs the cube to do it with his +1.
This deck is gross, but gross in the same way as getting a blow job from a high school crush because she now turns tricks to support the kid she had at 16, equal parts satisfying and guilt inducing.
2 months ago
Hey just curious if you tried out Ward of Bones and what you think of it? I'm trying it in my mostly creatureless Teferi, Temporal Archmage deck since it can come out turn one or two, I kind of like it more than Land Equilibrium but I'm not sure about it yet
2 months ago
What do you want this deck to do? You seem to have too many different ideas going on in this deck. People might be able to give you better advice if you had a clearer vision of what you want this deck to accomplish and how you want to get there.
Having said that, I can already see some ways to make this better. Let's start by looking at the changes that seem most obvious to me. Let me start with bringing up the idea that card draw is always better than tutoring. If I'm drawing 2 or 3 cards a turn, then I have more card advantage than doing a 1-for-1 trade of a tutor for something else. Look at replacing some of the tutor cards: Mystical Tutor, Muddle the Mixture, Intuition, Long-Term Plans, Personal Tutor, Merchant Scroll. Consider replacing half of those tutors with card draw engines. Maybe Arcanis the Omnipotent?
Drop the Treasure Mage, the only target you have in the mainboard is the Ward of Bones. Use Trinket Mage instead. AEther Barrier, Counterbalance, War's Toll don't really seem to help with much of any strategy in this deck. You should consider addming more creatures to make the Sneak Attack more effecitve. The Blood Moon is a special case. It hurts you as much or possible more than it hurts your opponents. But the good news is that we can take adavantage of that easily. Add a Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle. Consider adding an Archaeomancer and/or Izzet Chronarch to reuse the instants and sorceries.
Also, look at cutting Eternal Dominion. I think that card just hurts you too much. Look at the interaction of these 2 rules:
Epic (For the rest of the game, you can't cast spells. At the beginning of each of your upkeeps, copy this spell except for its epic ability. You may choose a new target for the copy.)
Suspend (At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter from that card. When the last is removed, cast it without paying its mana cost. If it's a creature, it has haste.)
The Epic ability would prevent you from casting the suspended cards as well as anything in your hand or that you might draw for the rest of the game. Not good.
As for your maybe board, don't use Paradox Haze. I know why you considered it, but I'm pretty sure it will end up biting you more often than helping. Instead of Reminisce look at Elixir of Immortality. You can search it up with the Trinket Mage and you get 5 life out if it. I pretty much auto-include one in every Commander deck I build. I've never regretted play one.
Let me know what you think of these suggestions and maybe we can continue the discussion and make the deck more fun for you to play. As always, temper these suggestions with your collection and your budget. Feel free to take a look at my decks and let me know what you think.
2 months ago
I don't think Llawan, Cephalid Empress or Fog Bank are worth playing, you could also remove Wall of Denial...you have 40 life, so aggro isn't as much of a problem as it is when playing stax in other formats. Most aggro decks also have some combo included in case they run against too many protective permanents they can't remove. I don't think a card that is "just a good blocker" has any value in realistic matchups.
I would replace Crawlspace with Ensnaring Bridge because it's more effective (and your commander can always attack after you draw your card for the turn). maybe think about removing the artifacts that have activated abilities completely if you want to play Stony Silence and add Null Rod for an additional card with the same effect. Overburden seems a bit odd because it helps the opponents against Winter Orb and Static Orb - it's a great card, but only if your mana denial plan is based on bouncing/destroying lands instead of having them stay tapped. If you go for land bouncing I can recommend Mana Breach (super effective! you could get rid of Arcane Laboratory because mana breach also punishes players for playing too many spells per turn), Land Equilibrium, Ward of Bones, Words of Wind and Sunder.
In general I think it's best to focus on one or two types of lockdown and build around these. If you do a bit of this and a bit of that everything is there but weak. I would say the tapping locks are the easiest to escape because you leave everything intact and only disable certain permanent types...if the tapping card is gone, everything works again. The most effective locks are those that constantly make you lose cards permanently, for example Mana Vortex, Smokestack, Possessed Portal. You have to choose what suits your playing style best and then focus on that plan with your whole deck.