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Traverse the Outlands
Search your library for up to X basic land cards, where X is the greatest power among creatures you control. Put those lands onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library.
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Traverse the Outlands Discussion
1 week ago
You could probably cut a lot of the weak dinosaurs for some bigger ramp. You're better off playing Traverse the Outlands, Mirari's Wake, and Zendikar Resurgent than stuff like Nest Robber. I'd also try to find copies of Ghalta, Primal Hunger, Rampaging Brontodon, Regal Behemoth, Runic Armasaur, Thrashing Brontodon, Trapjaw Tyrant, and Wayward Swordtooth. Check out EDHREC for more suggestions.
4 weeks ago
This is a great start. Here are some suggestions from a Trostani deck that I use, organized by pricing tiers to help keep this deck budget:
3/3 Tokens and another way to populate
Alternate Win Condition. Probably works better with Trostani as commander due to the increased life gain, but there's quite a bit of life gain in this deck regardless, so it may work.
Some token protection
Get a variety of tokens out quick
Advent of the Wurm
Just a decent token to populate later
Fog with populate. Optional, but not too bad
White Sun's Zenith
Utilize that mana and go wide
Speaking of going wide, mega populate
Just get some dudes on the board
Board wipe with a token upside
Go wide with a little extra damage, and still have some blockers left
Tamiyo's Journal A slow tutor, but might draw you some cards if you can't get to the tutor
$1 - $5
Potentially double your board, with 4/4 fliers!
Another mass token maker, but with 1/1 fliers (evasion is nice)
Alternate win condition. Probably better with Trostani as commander as you need to be able to absorb a loss of 50 life, but even in commander, most other people won't be able to say the same.
Win condition. With a wide board, +5/+5 is huge. Also creatures enter the battlefield with the +5/+5, so with Trostani out that's some good extra life gain.
Consistent way to get some decent tokens. Also protection from flying
Life gain, removal, mill protection, and tutor? This card just has value.
Again, designed for Trostani to double up on life gain, but helps with any ETB effects you have, of which there are a couple
Should be in any white token deck
Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Create creatures, get rid of big threats, maybe get your team in the air
Often a one-sided boardwipe, makes a ton ot tokens, and will sometime just win the game
Chord of Calling
Green tutor with convoke. You have a bunch of tokens, why not?
Green Sun's Zenith
Potentially reusable creature tutor. have to have the mana available, but it will find answers for you.
Not exactly budget, but valuable in a token deck
Artifact and Enchantment Tutor. Again, not really budget, but likely worth it in your deck
1 month ago
Correct. In this case X will be determined upon the spell's resolution, since it's not defined in the casting cost.
You'll put Traverse the Outlands on the stack and pay its cost, at which point Manaplasm triggers because you cast a spell. The trigger goes on the stack and resolves, giving Manaplasm +5/+5, making it a 6/6. Then when Traverse the Outlands resolves, it sees that the greatest power among your creatures is 6, so you get up to 6 basic lands.
1 month ago
So, in your case, you can get up to 6 basic lands.
This is because X isn't set upon casting the spell (like with Fireball for example.)
1 month ago
So if my only creature on the field is a Manaplasm and I cast Traverse the Outlands my question is basically when does the cast spell check what X is? A part of my says is checks when cast so a creature destroyed afterword doesn't change the effect. Another part of me says it would allow a triggered ability to resolve before the check happens.
1 month ago
Also Victory Chimes, Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle, Traverse the Outlands, Seedborn Muse, Mana Reflection, Zendikar Resurgent, Regal Behemoth, Vorel of the Hull Clade, Doubling Season. You might consider Simic Guildgate, Simic Growth Chamber.
1 month ago
@shyachi33: No worries about the length, I appreciate your thoughts. Doubling Cube is actually great with all the doubler's I'm running. Plus, with Mana Reflection it becomes a tripler. Shapers' Sanctuary actually usually nets me an average of 3-6 draws. And no one really messes with it too much because of the other threats. Most of the time, I'm not dropping my doublers until I get the most out of them (on my turn), they also eat some hate from people that know what my deck does. Otherwise, it's a way for me to sneak my commander out without them realizing what happened until it's too late. I've been looking at Traverse the Outlands, and Seasons Past. I have an Eternal Witness on the way.
Depending on the game, I will typically use Plea for Guidance to go get Food Chain + Mana Reflection unless I have enough doublers out, then I'll grab Myth Unbound. Food Chain is great. I was running Abundance, but found I don't really need it now.
I like the lands that give haste, and Whitemane Lion.
I'm also waiting on a Tooth and Nail.
Thanks for the ideas!
1 month ago
wall of text warning, sorry i got a little carried away, i love Zacama, and been playing a lot of it so i couldn't resist trying to help another player out.
My thoughts on your artifacts:
Doubling Cube it's not very good in a zacama deck as it's not really recur-able like the other mana doublers.
Sunforger it's essentially 8 mana to tutor for an instant, that's mana better spend just drawing cards, or better tutors.
The Immortal Sun if you're trying to stop a lot of planeswalker in your meta, keep it, otherwise it's too expensive of a cast.
after you cut those artifacts add in Stony Silence and/or Null Rod which adds more stuff for your enlightned tutor to fetch. this will not really stop you other than your equipments, sol ring, and mana vault (which I MIGHT cut, up to you though on that one) which is waaay less important than everyone else's rocks that they're probably relying on more than you.
thoughts on Enchantments:
Aura Shards you're not running enough creatures to really benefit you, and Zacama IS aura shards.
Aggravated Assault + Bear Umbra is cute at best, but outside of that just a straight double strike is just better than wasting your time with this combo, other than Etali you don't really benefit from additional combat steps.
Dictate of Karametra, Heartbeat of Spring, Zhur-Taa Ancient don't help other players, unless your deck is fast enough to win on the turn these come out, you're helping 3 other players that's NOT you. that's a strict 3 to 1 disadvantage no matter how much more lands you have. if you really want another doubler, Zendikar Resurgent.
Sunbird's Invocation is another cute card, and in a zacama deck i feel like it's just more a "win-more" card than actually helping you advance your board state, specially for it's mana cost.
please let me know how successful you've been with Food Chain + Myth Unbound combo works out for you, i thought about it, but didn't pull the trigger for it yet. Also how is Shapers' Sanctuary working out for you? i like 1 drops, and ones that can draw you cards is even better. On average how many cards do you think you draw from that card per play?
Banefire is that to remove planeswalkers? if so that's actually pretty smart, i didn't think of using it that way, but it's good to have.
Plea for Guidance this is to get your aggravated assault/bear umbra or food chain/myth unbound combo i assume, any other combos i'm missing? it's pretty expensive to play, 6 mana to search, then another 6-14 mana to get those other combos going. If you decide to keep it, i recommend adding Abundance to combo with Sylvan Library pick up lands or non lands to your liking and not pay life.
other than that, i'd recommend more ramp spells and tutors:
Rampant Growth, Hunting Wilds (don't ever pay the kicker), and Traverse the Outlands gets crazy as soon as Zacama drops, Kodama's Reach and Cultivate wouldn't hurt. Hour of Promise ramps AND searches for ANY land.
Uncage the Menagerie can play well too, but you'll have to actually build your deck around it a bit more to actually be effective.
As far as creatures go, i recommend the mana dork squad, having a consistent turn 1 play every game will really affect your board state advantage, having 3 mana on turn 2 is a big difference, specially for all the ramp spells you want to be casting.
Chameleon Colossus is a great creature for mana sink, pump it up, then you can Soul's Majesty it, or similar effect with it.
Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma and Spellbreaker Behemoth this is hit and miss. you only really have 7-10 creatures they actually affect, if you feel like you're running enough green, Emerald Medallion can be better value than goreclaw, and Vexing Shusher and Prowling Serpopard would affect more of your deck than spellbreaker.
Whitemane Lion combo's with Panharmonicon to infinitly bounce zacama for the same mana cost as Temur, if temur ever gets exiled. also having flash, can save a creature in case of a removal or something.
Garruk, Primal Hunter is pretty much another Soul's Majesty. it's worth the slot even for just a 1 time use draw card when your fatties are out.
Recursion, your deck is lacking pretty much every basic form of it. Eternal Witness and Regrowth are just green staples. and personally, i would cut Praetor's Counsel for Seasons Past it's cheaper to cast, and will get back most of what you need anyways.
also i would up your land count to 36-38 your deck's average CMC is too high to be greedy on lands.
Kessig Wolf Run is just another quality land.