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Candelabra of Tawnos
, : Untap X target lands.
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Candelabra of Tawnos Discussion
2 days ago
Sgtpopnfreash, both Snapcaster Mage and Mizzix's Mastery Improve Intuition plays and enable recasting Yawgmoth's Will and Wheels from the grave even without kess, which is a good redundancy in this case. I'd probably cut one of them if I had Timetwister and Candelabra of Tawnos.
4 days ago
And Jace of course
2 weeks ago
could u say a card that you would suggest for swapping Candelabra of Tawnos ?
4 weeks ago
As with many others here, I use EDHrec purely for supplemental purposes.
I find a good card that I want to build a deck round and begin with stuff in my collection. Most times I'll only get 3 or 4 card ideas from edhrec, and only if I know they'll augment my current build.
I used to know a guy who would absolutely deny netdecking when called out on it. I mean, get SUPER butthurt and not show up for a week or two to our LGS. We knew he was netdecking because he's not creative enough to come up with some of the combos he was throwing out there. He would also get really confused when we would suggest some obvious synergies with some of his cards that he didn't have in the deck that ANYONE else would've thought to include.
Anyway, I'm getting rambly... In summation, I only hate netdeckers that build multi-thousand dollar decks that don't lose because they can afford all the expensive cards (IE. Candelabra of Tawnos, for example).
I firmly believe nedecking is counter intuitive to the entire deck building process. Your deck should be yours. Not someone else's that you try to pass off as an original.
1 month ago
xEth0sx, I've finished reading the description of your Gisa deck and I think I can help you with it. I'll talk about some of my impressions about your primer first, then I'll go over some of your card choices and I'll tell you about a few cards I think should be in the deck.
As far as primers go, I'd say this one is missing a couple of important things. If I had to list them in order of relevance, I'd say that it is missing (a) a single card discussion section; (b) a section about how one should play the deck, what the deck is trying to accomplish, and how it tries to finish the game (e.g., a How to Play the Deck or a Strategy section); (c) why mono-B instead of any other color or color combination?; and (d) why Gisa? There might be other things but those are the items that came to my mind. I get that maybe you've just started writing this primer but moving forward, I believe it would be important to address these issues.
Now, let's talk about the exciting stuff, namely the decklist. The idea to use Ghoulcaller Gisa as a stax commander is an interesting one. It punishes spot removal and it takes advantage of creatures with a recursion ability to make even more creatures, which in turn can be used for stax pieces (e.g., Contamination, Smokestack) and hit face. I like the idea but why did you choose Gisa?
As a mono-B player, you'll need to be proactive about making it hard for your opponents to combo off because you don't have the luxury of running permission spells. The stax plan is very good here and I can see you are also playing a few disruption spells. A+ here. The only strange choice is Cabal Therapy. The sac ability might come handy at times but seems too situational. Duress is hands down a better choice, and I'd consider running Hymn to Tourach and Mind Twist as well. In the same vein, I'd even consider running Ill-Gotten Gains, too. It has great synergy with Waste Not and Leyline of the Void, and if you manage resolve it in the early game, it will set all your opponents back quite a lot (and it's also an additional yard recursion). It's a very versatile card that should be in every mono-B deck in my opinion.
On the stax package, I'd favor Infernal Darkness over Contamination hands down, or play both. Contamination shuts down your own coffers and it is more situational than Inf Darkness--that is, if you can cast darkness, you can keep it going for at least 2 turns, but if you can cast Contamination, you can only keep it going it you can also sac creatures. I understand the role of Tenacious Dead and Reassembling Skeleton but in my mind, I think you could remove both of them and if you really need an alternative, add something like Ophiomancer. Similar to Bitterblossom, Ophio doesn't require you to keep spending mana to create a creature.
One thing I feel you are missing is mana doublers. One advantage of playing a mono colored deck is that it makes it easier to run mana doublers, such as Extraplanar Lens, Bubbling Muck, and Crypt Ghast. If you go that route, you can get additional value with Candelabra of Tawnos (someone suggested before) and I'd also run Snow-Covered Swamps instead.
I have additional suggestions (e.g., Jet Medallion, Snuff Out, Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed, Innocent Blood) but I don't want to make this comment longer than it is. I have a competitive Erebos list (Erebos' Bargain) that might give you a few additional ideas on how to improve your own list. Feel free to check it. Anyway, good stuff you have here. Keep working on it and good luck on future games!
1 month ago
Hey, I love the deck!
Exsanguinate with infinite/a lot of mana is a great wincon. Redundancy is always nice, so with that in mind, I suggest the following...
Deserted Temple - Goes infinite with cabal coffers enough swamps and rings.
Mirage Mirror - Utility and another cabal coffers to fuel your wincon
Candelabra of Tawnos - Untap coffers, and utility lands
Trading Post - Utility. First ability helpful for necro (although discarded is exiled). Second for chump blocker/contamination fuel. Third sac outlet and artifact recursion. Fourth prevents artifacts from getting exiled (ex: rings) as you can sac in response.
Corpse Dance to bring something back, sac it get tokens.
1 month ago
NecroPony I also do not have a Candelabra of Tawnos but High Tide is probably still the strongest mana producer in my deck. Its easy to use it with Kess, Dissident Mage to produce 20+ mana in a game. If you feel its not very strong its because of your mana base not because you dont have a Candelabra of Tawnos.
1 month ago
Sgtpopnfreash thank you for taking the time to comment. I'll take a look and see if anything is worth considering. Clearly there are areas that can be tightened up, but I also am on a budget. I can't go out and just buy a Mox Opal.
Tendrils doesn't need to be good enough to kill the board, just good enough to kill one person or at the very least get my life back up after an Ad Nauseam. Eventually it will probably leave the deck.
I do however disagree about Paradox Engine. As I don't have a Candelabra of Tawnos, High Tide isn't actually spectacular in the deck. Right now it serves as just a ritual spell, and so Paradox Engine and/or Dramatic Scepter is how I make infinite Mana to storm out.