Forgotten Ancient

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Printings View all

Set Rarity
Commander Anthology 2018 (CM2) Rare
Archenemy: Nicol Bolas (E01) Rare
Commander 2016 (C16) Rare
Conspiracy: Take the Crown (CN2) Rare
Commander 2015 (C15) Rare
Archenemy (ARC) Rare
Planechase (HOP) Rare
Scourge (SCG) Rare

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Forgotten Ancient

Creature — Elemental

Whenever a player casts a spell, you may put a +1/+1 counter on Forgotten Ancient.

At the beginning of your upkeep, you may move any number of +1/+1 counters from Forgotten Ancient onto other creatures.

Forgotten Ancient Discussion

Last_Laugh on [Commander/EDH] Reyhan & Ishai´s Partnership

4 days ago

Forgot 1 major addition. Spark Double typically copying Reyhan. I'm also fond of Forgotten Ancient here but that one is debatable at 4 mana.

Hmmm cuts...

Chromatic Lantern - Probably not needed with this nice of a manabase.

Mikaeus - Tap ability is a bit slow.

Aetheflux Resevoir - Unless I'm missing a combo here?

Odric - How many creatures can he pull abilities from? I love George Clooney but a cursory glance doesn't show too many creatures with keywords.

Windfall - Another card I absolutely love but I try to avoid it in non-combo decks. In a creature based strat you probably handed a few someones a boardwipe. I guess this depends on your meta a bit... mine sees far more boardwipes than counterspells for example.

multimedia on Counter Sac Engine / Gruul Mill

1 month ago

Hey, there's several cards that are $3 or less each that would be good here.

Could add all these for $15.

Cards to consider cutting:

  • 4x Mountain
  • Manalith
  • Prismatic Lens
  • Hunt the Hunter
  • Orcish Oriflamme
  • Fairgrounds Trumpeter
  • Opportunistic Dragon
  • Battlefront Krushok
  • Archetype of Aggression
  • Archetype of Endurance

Wrathhawk on Atraxa Proliferate

1 month ago

Wow, multimedia, thanks for the insights and detailed response!

I agree that I need to add more lands. My EDH group uses Partial Paris mulligan rules, so we can usually run with a little less land than normal, however I've been doing test draws and seem to be a little short on land, even for that.

I love the Forgotten Ancient + Sage of Hours combo that you suggested and will be adding that in. I can see Forgotten Ancient being used with many other creatures as well. I will also be adding in Exotic Orchard , Opal Palace , and Mirrodin's Core . I didn't realize how inexpensive these were.

The Sylvan Caryatid is in because I already own that card. The same goes for the check-lands that you mentioned at the end of your comment.

I agree with the first 10 cards on your list for suggested cutting, although many of the dual (gain 1 life) lands are there because I already own them. I would prefer to have more pay 1 life (or pay 2 when ETB) dual lands to fuel the initial counter on Font of Agonies , but they are expensive.

I'm going to keep Volrath, the Shapestealer because I like the idea of using -1/-1 counters (along with proliferate) as a way to incapacitate opposing commanders and certain other creatures (without actually killing them and having them brought back). Plus, Volrath's ability to copy ANY creature that has a counter on it gives it great versatility with some of the creatures my group uses ( Gisela, Blade of Goldnight , for example).

I think I'll also keep The Wanderer in place of adding Swords to Plowshares , Beast Within , and the like, mainly because of her additional passive ability, hoping that I can proliferate fast enough to keep her alive. That card along with Lux Cannon and Font of Agonies are my main way of dealing with single threats until Venser or Teferi's ultimate abilities come online.

I'll make the updates a little later this evening and see how the test draws go.

Thanks for your help!

multimedia on Atraxa Proliferate

1 month ago

Hey, overall well done. It's pretty difficult to make a budget Atraxa deck when you're including cards such as Season and Teferi, good job.

No basic lands is strange and 28 total lands is pretty low. I think basic lands are better than lands such as Guildgates, Blossoming Sands, Thornwood Falls, Dismal Backwater, etc. With four colors and not having any Fetch lands because of the low budget then you need more lands. My advice is play 36 lands, adding 11 basic lands: 5x Forest, 2x Swamp, 2x Island, 2x Plains

Budget cards to consider adding:

The majority of these cards can be repeatable sources of counters which is good with proliferate. Just about all these cards use counters in some way. More cards that can put a counter on Atraxa are helpful since then she can proliferate herself. Forgotten Ancient is repeatable source of a lot of counters since you put a counter on it each time a player casts a spell this includes your opponents. You can then at your upkeep move those counters around and put them on any other creatures you control. Combine Ancient and proliferate with Sage of Hours for a budget repeatable way to take extra turns. Taking extra turns is powerful with Planeswalkers and when you can attack with Atraxa who herself is big from counters.


Cards to consider cutting:

  • Blossoming Sands
  • Dismal Backwater
  • Graypelt Refuge
  • Rupture Spire
  • Simic Guildgate
  • Thornwood Falls
  • Shimmering Grotto
  • Grixis Illusionist
  • Scute Mob
  • Simic Initiate
  • Ainok Bond-Kin
  • Sylvan Caryatid
  • Rosethorn Acolyte
  • Abzan Battle Priest
  • Oneirophage
  • Volrath, the Shapestealer
  • Ethereal Armor
  • Tezzeret, Master of Metal
  • The Wanderer
  • Ancient Animus
  • Battlefield Promotion
  • Choking Fumes
  • Hindervines
  • Courage in Crisis

To make room for $9 of price cut Sylvan Caryatid . There's nothing wrong with Caryatid, it's a fine card, but $9 can be better spent such as Sol Ring and Eladamri's Call , etc. The Pioneer format is here and as a result the legal Fast lands have spiked in price. They're no longer budget options for manabases and honestly they aren't very good lands in Commander especially not for their new inflated prices since they will consistently ETB tapped in 99 card singleton Commander. Seachrome Coast , Razorverge Thicket , Botanical Sanctum can be cut to clear a lot of price if you want that.

multimedia on Guildpact Informant or Merfolk Skydiver?

1 month ago

Hey, I don't think you need to play Guildpact Informant , Merfolk Skydiver or Abzan Falconer . You could cut all three as there's better cards that would help your deck.

Consider Eladamri's Call ? It's budget and one of the best creature tutors in Commander. Instead of playing subpar creatures for redundancy play an instant that can get you any creature into your hand? Consider Sage of Hours ? It's a creature to want to put counters on an proliferate especially with Forgotten Ancient .

poorpinkus on Infinite Combos in EDH - Experiment Kraj Budget

1 month ago

Wizkalifa Forgotten Ancient is a great card! I probably won't put it in this deck because I'm purely tunnel-visioning in on the infinite combos, but it would probably make the deck a lot better by giving some alternate ways to win!

Krazydude123 Hmm, haste trample from Shifting Ceratops is very tempting (similarly for Zegana, Utopian Speaker ), however usually I like my haste/unblockable enablers to have some way to protect Kraj as well. For example, Thornling can also give itself indestructible and Morphling can give itself shroud.

Gyre Engineer and Incubation Druid would be AMAZING in the deck though! I think in paper I actually have a gyre engineer in the deck, and I did NOT realize that Incubation Druid gave mana of any colour! That's amazing since it's so hard to find mana dorks that make blue. Definitely putting both of those in, thanks!

Thank you both for the suggestions!

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Forgotten Ancient occurrence in decks from the last year

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.05%

Green: 0.13%

GU (Simic): 0.57%

Golgari: 0.1%