|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Printings View all
|Masters 25 (A25)||Common|
|Commander Anthology (CM1)||Common|
|Commander 2016 (C16)||Common|
|Commander 2013 (C13)||Common|
|Masters Edition (MED)||Common|
Combos Browse all
Counter target spell. Its controller may draw up to two cards at the beginning of the next turn's upkeep.
You draw a card at the beginning of the next turn's upkeep.
|Have (3)||orzhov_is_relatively_okay819 , simicstudent ,|
|Want (9)||urahara72 , jbbvader , resevoirhotdogs , olivo426 , Darkspy , Timedrqgon , whowasfone , Ashinror , DEasy353|
Arcane Denial Discussion
2 days ago
@bushido_man96: Hmph. I guess that is an understandable case of yours. Very well. It's in. Negate should be a no-brainer also, but I'd look silly if I didn't run it in any Based deck that doesn't run also ( Dovin's Veto would be a better choice IMO, though Negate is just fine also.) Ironic I haven't used Disallow for quite a while, I liked it. & a 2/2 Flier is only marginal as a downside. So the following other stuff will be added. Anything else not noted will be explained why:
Counterspell : The Golden Answer; in the form of a famous quote from The Phantom Tollbooth: Why not?
Foil : Losing one life is a minor draw back, but EXILING a card also? I apologize for this, but this is why I wanted to know how Rashmi, Eternities Crafter can recur Exiled stuff. I wish I could ask someone about this while Rashmi is still Tier 2... Discarding 2 cards at least means there is potential of some kind of Recursion Engine, Is also cheaper to even HARDCAST, & you don't need Riftsweeper to get your exiled stuff back. That, & I'd prefer Mana Drain Force of Will anyway. It also sucks that Riftsweeper isn't a Human; she's a damned Elf. Crap.
Arcane Denial : Well, I guess I could punish someone for having a hand in the first place... Tee-Hee…~
Disallow : Wow. How fragging long has it been since I used this? If there is any better; Most likely not, I replace this.
Negate : The Silver Answer as I parody The Phantom Tollbooth: Because Dovin demands you to, or you will be detained. XP
Ah, whatever. I think that should be good enough; I already mentioned why Force of Will doesn't make the cut. Now, after I add these, I think it's time to chop some Theros Glop...
2 days ago
Why Arcane Denial ? Because its a frickin' counterspell, and you asked for counterspells. And it costs 2 mana. So many people playing EDH get so damned worried about their opponents getting cards. But if they build their decks with half a brain anyways, they are going to get cards. Yes, Arcane Denial is pretty much card disadvantage. But you counter something that you didn't want to happen.
2 days ago
@bushido_man96: I suppose. Foil is inferior to even Force of Will (How did that get more expensive than Mana Drain ?!), but at least I can do some recursion. Counterspell 's a no-brainer, but why Arcane Denial ? I mean, it could be incorporated as a Milling method before someone gets out Laboratory Maniac , or even Jace, Wielder of Mysteries , but I still wonder myself...
2 days ago
3 days ago
Right off the bat, 3.14 Average CMC is high for a deck like Merfolk, your curve looks good, just try to add more 2 drops, even if it's just ramp sources Fellwar Stone Mind Stone Coldsteel Heart Sapphire Medallion Emerald Medallion Farseek Nature's Lore Rampant Growth , etc.
Song of Freyalise could be fun
Overwhelming Stampede seems low power in a deck that doesn't have any huge beaters, Behemoth and Forerunners seems unnecessary when you could run a tutor in place of one. (Also Avenger of Zendikar plays really well with either).
Force of Vigor has been performing amazingly in all my testing if you're interested in it.
Path of Discovery seems.. less than synergistic with no graveyard play.
6 days ago
Hey coldray thanks for your feedback, I've now added a brief meta/power level section as that was clearly missing.
As for a dorks mana base, I find that you get set back too far after a boaerdwipe and as this deck isn't aiming to win fast or abuse untap effects from Paradox Engine or dramatic/scepter combo I feel like they lose some of their power. Don't get me wrong, I love the little guys and they're the core base of a few of my cEDH decks Razakats and Shuffle Hulk. I also have a lot of them in my casual Karametra deck, but they're so much better there because each one is a 1cmc Rampant Growth so who cares if they get wiped.
I was thinking about adding Yisan too because once I finalise the creatures in the deck there will be a better balance of cmc for Pod and Vannifar, and ideally a toolbox that can answer most things at each cmc.
Temur Sabertooth is a good idea, I like that more than the ETB bounce creatures I've seen others considering.
I know a lot of ppl don't like Arcane Denial because it draws the opponent 2 cards but I really like that it replaces itself for me, and in non cEDH pods I think that's still worth it. I didn't add FoW at the start coz I wasn't sure what the density was going to be, yea I could definitely add it now.
Out of curiosity, what would you consider the cute yet ineffective cards?
1 week ago
Pretty interesting list! Curious as to if you think that the triple blue from Cryptic Command is worth it? Wonder if something like Mystic Confluence might feel a little better. Same with Cancel , wondering if something like Arcane Denial might fit the bill better. Feel free to take a look at my list! Kykar Goes America All Over Everybody's Ass
1 week ago
Swan Song is a good commander staple.
Arcane Denial is a good cantrip counterspell.
Arcane Denial occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.14%
WU (Azorius): 1.44%
UB (Dimir): 1.08%
UR (Izzet): 0.99%
GU (Simic): 0.65%
WUB (Esper): 0.67%
UBR (Grixis): 0.79%
GWU (Bant): 0.58%