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|Commander Anthology (CM1)||Common|
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|Commander 2015 (C15)||Common|
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Orzhov Basilica enters the battlefield tapped.
When Orzhov Basilica enters the battlefield, return a land you control to its owner's hand.
: Gain .
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Orzhov Basilica Discussion
4 days ago
1 week ago
Time Wipe , Dromar's Cavern , Esper Panorama , Tainted Field , Tainted Isle , Dimir Aqueduct , Orzhov Basilica , Zur's Weirding , Mana Vault , Chromatic Lantern , Mana Geode , Rhystic Study , Emeria Shepherd , Hanna, Ship's Navigator , Scrap Trawler , Codex Shredder . There ya go. And these are almost exclusively odd. Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre might also be fun. I'm not really sure what you're going for with the Teferi's Protection lock. Are you looking to lock yourself/your opponents out? If so, using an Instant is kinda difficult to recur consistently each turn, it would probably be easier to just run a big ass protection package and find a combo that keeps you safe indefinitely. Sucks that the person didn't help you out, might wanna flag that the thread mods. Anyways, feel free to give me a better idea of your gameplan so I can make some more tailored suggestions!
2 months ago
Out: - Citadel Siege - Crucible of Fire - Dragon Breath - Dragon Fangs - Dragon Scales - Dragon Shadow - Fervent Charge - Mighty Emergence - Sarkhan's Unsealing - Triumph of Ferocity - Atarka Monument - Dragon's Hoard - Dromoka Monument - Kolaghan Monument - Ojutai Monument - Silumgar Monument - Response / Resurgence - Akoum Hellkite - Bone Dragon - Dromoka, the Eternal - Flameblast Dragon - Foe-Razer Regent - Furyborn Hellkite - Hoarding Dragon - Jugan, the Rising Star - Mana-Charged Dragon - Nicol Bolas - Shieldhide Dragon - Azorius Chancery - Gruul Turf - Izzet Boilerworks - Orzhov Basilica - Rakdos Carnarium - Simic Growth Chamber
Replacement Options - Atarka, World Render - Boneyard Scourge - Broodmate Dragon - Darigaaz Reincarnated - Dragonlord Kolaghan - Harbinger of the Hunt - Hellkite Tyrant - Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund - Kokusho, the Evening Star - Nesting Dragon - Rith, the Awakener - Ryusei, the Falling Star - Scourge of the Throne - Utvara Hellkite - Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire - Skyshroud Claim - Nissa's Pilgrimage - Farseek - Sol Ring - Smothering Tithe - Dragonspeaker Shaman - Earthquake - Commander's Sphere - Chromatic Lantern - Darksteel Ingot - Wayfarer's Bauble - Fellwar Stone - Armillary Sphere - Burnished Hart - Mirari's Wake - Curse of Opulence - Unclaimed Territory - Exotic Orchard - Mountain s, Swamp s, Forest s, Island s, Plains
2 months ago
2 months ago
bushido_man96 as for Amulet of Vigor yes your absolutely right i did only put in there to speed up my tap lands but with 12 pure Taplands Temple of Silence , Sandsteppe Citadel , Rakdos Carnarium , Orzhov Basilica , Opulent Palace , Nomad Outpost , Izzet Boilerworks , Gruul Turf , Golgari Rot Farm , Dimir Aqueduct , Boros Garrison and Azorius Chancery , and 6 ETB tap unless lands Blood Crypt , Godless Shrine , Isolated Chapel , Overgrown Tomb , Sacred Foundry and Watery Grave think me having Amulet of Vigor is justified.
3 months ago
This deck looks very fun. I like the gameplan of comboing out without a finisher as I have a similar deck. One thing I can suggest is Mother of Runes for your combos that rely on Elenda to stick around. This card does wonders. She basically counters the first of any targeted removal or effects aimed at your creatures each turn and can protect herself.
On a different note, unless it's due to budget concerns, I'd definitely get a hold of the lands you have listed in your maybeboard and add them to your deck, especially Phyrexian Tower and Orzhov Basilica . Although, maybe your manabase has been working well despite the large amount of basics.
Furthermore, has your deck been consistent enough where you're able to get things done every game? One of the greatest challenges I find with deckbuilding is finding the right amount of consistency. Too little and you have no fun each game while doing nothing. Too much, and games quickly become too similar for you and your playgroup.
3 months ago
I looked at the Orzhov deck and I think that Teysa Karlov is the key to making it work if you want to use sacrafice effects to make it worth it. Until she is in play, killing your own creatures for bonus effects, even when you are getting afterlife triggers, will usually leave you behind because you wont have much card draw. I would focus mostly on cheap creatures with afterlife, and avoid creatures that force you to sacrifice to get good value out of them.
I don't really like the value added by Basilica Bell-Haunt , Forbidding Spirit , or Grasping Thrull . Similarly Knight of Sorrows and Orzhov Racketeers seem a little too expensive to be worth their stats/afterlife triggers. I also think that Knight of the Last Breath is too expensive and his sacrafice ability is expensive and specific to non token creatures, but it might be worth running 1 of him as a late game way to blow up all of your afterlife creatures once you have a Teysa Karlov and Vindictive Vampire in play. The Teysa Karlov + Vindictive Vampire combo is probably your best bet to win late game by giving you enough of a lead to finish them off with your 1/1 fliers. If you have a Teysa Karlov and one (or more) Vindictive Vampire s in play, don't be afraid to use a Kaya's Wrath This will do a bunch of damage, and boardwipe the enemies armies while leaving you with all of your doubled afterlife triggers.
As for which creatures I think are pretty good, you will need to play around with deciding between all of the low cost afterlifeers Imperious Oligarch , Ministrant of Obligation , Orzhov Enforcer , and Tithe Taker all look pretty good. Syndicate Messenger is a little more expensive but is a solid flyer and Seraph of the Scales looks great, my only concern is that they would be in the same mana cost as both Teysa Karlov and Vindictive Vampire . Twilight Panther , Syndicate Guildmage , Pitiless Pontiff and Impassioned Orator all seem a little underwhelming to me.
Hero of Precinct One could be useful but only if you run mostly multicolored spells and that might not be worth it to aid this single card. Resolute Watchdog might be a good sideboard in case the enemy continues to kill off your Teysa/Vindictives. Priest of Forgotten Gods seems like she is part of a combo in an edh deck, just waiting to happen, but if you run a ton of low cost afterlife creatures, which you are, she might work great. Ideally she would kill two of your creatures right after they block or are blocked, and then draw you a new creature!
Bladebrand seems like a fun way to punsh the other player for blocking one of your small attackers, I think if used well it will add a lot of value to your little attackers, making the enemy afraid to block them. I would opt for Mortify over Final Payment or Expose to Daylight but sideboard the daylights for pesky artifacts. Undercity's Embrace lets the enemy decide what they sac, and you will basically never meet the requirement to get the extra health, so it isn't very good unless like hexproof becomes a problem? I am not sure about Grotesque Demise and Summary Judgment I feel like judgement is cheeper and will deal with most low cost creatures and may handle some bigger ones, so I would opt for that, but Grotesque will help with creatures that have afterlife, if you are running against a mirror. With our play group, you most likely wont be.
Ethereal Absolution too expensive, only sideboard in if somehow you are losing to late game 1/1 creatures or if late game your afterlife creatures are just too weak to finish the enemy, my guess is that it's not going to help much in time. Ill-Gotten Inheritance too in single player and in multiplayer makes you a huge target. If you find in multiplayer games that late game you are widdling away at people but cant ever find a way to attack, this might work. My guess is that Kaya's Wrath / Priest of Forgotten Gods + Vindictive Vampire would do better.
With your life gain, recursion, and death trigger effects, I feel like Kaya's Wrath will often leave you in better shape than it will others. I would run 4 of them however you also need to be careful. If you boardwipe with little or no cards in your hand, other decks will probably rebuild more quickly than you can. Instead, if you are planning a boardwipe, save a few good creatures in your hand, even if it means taking damage for a round or two, then boardwipe. I wish Bankrupt in Blood was instant speed, but running a few might be a good idea to help you recover your handsize after boardwipes. Mortify is better than Bring to Trial unless you are having troubles with enemy enter the grave effects, or idestructable. Could be a sideboard card. Consecrate / Consume is iffy. If you are having troubles with big mean creatures it's a nice card. You could take a hit from the creature for 1 round, then kill it and gain back that life. The ability to use it to draw a card instead id alright, but not great. Revival / Revenge seems pretty fun with this deck. You can use it to get back cheep afterlifers (especially Imperious Oligarch or Orzhov Enforcer ) or, if you draw it late game, you can use it to swing the tide of a game quite a bit.
-[Lands]- This land base looks pretty solid, I would only caution that when running 4x Orzhov Basilica and 4x Orzhov Guildgate you risk getting caught with a very slow start, which is sad when you have such low cost creatures. Ideally you would want to play a Guildgate rnd1, a basic land rnd2, tap for a 2 cost creature, then on turn three play a second 2 cost creature and then a basilica. So that on turn four you can play a four cost creature.
3 months ago
Hello I certainly don't mind giving some suggestions, I do see that you have received some excellent feedback already, but I will try to add what I can to this.
I figure this deck you're wanting to keep on the budget side am I correct in assuming? Regardless, I can see some areas where you can make significant improvement without spending too much $. The mana base is what i'm talking about here, I think you have a fine land count but what you can do is include some non-basics. Here are some to consider: Command Tower , Secluded Steppe , Orzhov Basilica , Temple of the False God , Myriad Landscape , Vault of the Archangel , Isolated Chapel , Temple of Silence , High Market , and Bojuka Bog . Of course there's others beyond this if you want to spend more like Cabal Coffers , Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , Godless Shrine , Marsh Flats , etc but these are obviously more expensive.
But yeah, your commander is a bit on the costly side, and you could do with some more ramp here. For one thing, with so many basic lands here I think you should consider adding Land Tax .
Then, some other individual cards that I think would help here would be the following: Athreos, God of Passage (Was my first deck originally and is such a useful card here especially when paired with Teysa Karlov ), Emeria Shepherd , Bitterblossom , and Priest of Forgotten Gods .
I wish I could offer more but I must get back to studying. Whenever I can, I will try to suggest some cuts that you can make possibly for some of these suggestions. The lands should be an easy part however to decide. Well I hope that some of this is of use to you for now.
Orzhov Basilica occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.09%
W/B (Orzhov): 1.49%
W/U/B (Esper): 0.67%
RBW (Mardu): 0.88%