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Temple of Silence
Temple of Silence enters the battlefield tapped
When Temple of Silence enters the battlefield, scry 1.
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Temple of Silence Discussion
22 hours ago
I like the updates! With Blue Sun's Zenith, Capsize, and Debt to the Deathless, you're probably good on infinite mana wincons. A couple of small things to consider: You'll probably want to run Momentary Blink over Cloudshift. The extra value is worth the mana inefficiency is Commander. Also, regardless of whether or not you decide to put in the infinite Drake/Great Whale combo, I would put in Possessed Skaab over Mnemonic Wall. The body is about the same value, and having the flexibility to return a creature is major upside. Also, Trinket Mage would be an upgrade over Trophy Mage. The former gets you Sol Ring and Wayfarer's Bauble, while the latter gets you Worn Powerstone and Darksteel Ingot. I would also ditch Temple of the False God. It's pretty bad in general, but even more so in a 3-color deck. A basic land would be better, although Temple of Deceit , Temple of Silence , and Temple of Enlightenment , or even Zhalfirin Void would be huge upgrades with your theme. Aether Hub is also pretty bad. Some affordable upgrades include Vivid Creek , Vivid Meadow , Vivid Marsh , Arcane Sanctum , Terramorphic Expanse , Jwar Isle Refuge , Scoured Barrens , Sejiri Refuge , and Tranquil Cove . Finally, if you're going to run Karn's Temporal Sundering, you'll probably want another legendary or two, whether that's Kaya, Ghost Assassin , Obzedat, Ghost Council , Aminatou, the Fateshifter , Brago, King Eternal , or Vela the Nightclad.
2 days ago
NoOneOfConsequence I honestly don't think that the mine, wasteland, or command beacon are good cards.
The Mine/Wasteland are for very different reasons than the beacon however, but one issue is with all of these colorless lands. Your deck wants to cast cards like Necropotence and double-devotion cards like Grasp of Fate . A colorless land does nothing but the 1 mana on the Grasp, and nothing on Necro. Since your landbase didn't even run Command Tower or much fixing at all, it would be relatively often you get a hand like Temple of Silence , Wasteland , and Swamp , with Necro or Grasp you couldn't cast either. Running the maximal amount of fixing, especially for the high-devotion deck you put together is key.
Wasteland/Mine's abilities are also really weak, to a 1v1 they are amazing, but in 4 player, you use 1 card to get rid of 1 card, and 2 opponents suddenly have advantage over you. It is card disadvantage, and that along with your deck's reliance on having good mana makes those cards nearly impossible to justify.
Command Beacon is only good in decks when it is using its commander as a key piece that can easily be removed and if it is it cannot easily come back. Think Prossh, Skyraider of Kher , where you cast and sacrifice it infinitely to get infinite mana, but if your outlet to win is countered, and you have to pass, it will never be able to be gotten back again, Beacon doesn't help a ton, as going infinite is nearly impossible at that point with Prossh, but it does make about 13 extra mana with Food Chain, to be spent trying to find another wincon.
3 days ago
NoOneOfConsequence I actually did playtest your deck once (I know, it isn't a great sample size by any means), yet many cards are an issue. I apologize, I really want to like a deck you post, just to not make this a dramafest, but I can't say a bad deck is good. Damnation and Wrath don't need to be put into the deck at all.
Here is a full list of cards that are particularly overpriced, and where each card I think is bad or could be better fits, if you truely believe that I can't evaluate it fairly:
Doomwake Giant - Interesting repeatable board wipe, a meta-dependent inclusion though, not good for the average cEDH meta, but does have a place in some lists. I'd drop, but could imagine many arguments for it's inclusion.
Ghostly Prison - anti-attacks, which just rarely comes into play outside of kiki-lines and the sort, a strange meta-dependent inclusion, but I coudl much less justify this one.
Karmic Justice - Cool card, but often enchantment removal comes in the form of bounce or exile, and so this effect feels very off.
Vindicate - 3 mana remove 1 thing is a lot of wasted mana, easy drop.
No Mercy - Really a lot of attack-hate, strange for a stax list with a commander that generates blockers. Easy drop at a 4 mana do nothing enchantment.
Knowledge Pool - I get the Eidolon of Rhetoric / Rule of Law combo with it, but many decks have better value engines than Daxos, or can respond by killing one of the pieces, or can kill Daxos. These make this combo rarely an easy way to finish the game, requiring a ton of setup/backup that survives the lock. I think better options exist.
Sigil of the Empty Throne - A slow, 5 mana do nothing enchantment, it takes forever to get this going, easy drop.
Sphere of Safety - This much creature-attack hate? How much do you need? 1 card is often too much with Daxos in the CZ, but you run... including sweepers... like 11? Wow. Your meta must be all Edric and Blood Pod, maybe 1 Kess Twin, nah, just all Edric decks.
Black Market - maybe in a meta with 50 Edric decks. Outside of that, easy drop.
Land Tax - should run the Geddon/Ravages package or leave this out.
Mesa Enchantress - Slow card draw on a weak creature is just removal bait, this deck has better cards for the slot. Harder drop.
Phyrexian Arena - A lot of math goes into why this card is generally pretty bad. Inefficient and weak in most circumstances, and needs almost 5 unimpeded turns to get enough value to be okay. Better cards for the slot.
Cabal Coffers - big mana, not worth it outside of ANS.
Vesuva - copying a land to enter tapped leaves you in a lack of mana. Weak card.
Command Beacon - easy drop, weak card.
Deserted Temple - Easy drop, weak card.
Strip Mine - Good card, not here.
Temple of Silence - scry is weak when you lose due to not having mana, easy drop
Kor Haven - Easy Drop, never gonna use that ability
Plains x4 - Not great at Fixing
New inclusions (Total drops are at 42)
Base inclusions: Fellwar Stone , Prismatic Lens , Thought Vessel , Everflowing Chalice , Caves of Koilos , Command Tower , City of Brass , Mana Confluence , Exotic Orchard , Cavern of Souls , Gemstone Caverns , Gemstone Mine , and Tarnished Citadel
Total real cards left to put in: 29
Thorn of Amethyst , Thalia, Guardian of Thraben , Trinisphere , Tangle Wire , Sphere of Safety , Damping Sphere , Fragmentize , Aura of Silence , Dismember , Lotus Petal , Dark Ritual , Kataki, War's Wage , Crucible of Worlds , Bottomless Pit , Oppression , Liliana of the Veil , Static Orb , Linvala, Keeper of Silence , Ethersworn Canonist , Aven Mindcensor , Torpor Orb , Planar Void , Grafdigger's Cage , Ensnaring Bridge (just for your meta), Dark Confidant , Containment Priest , Chalice of the Void , Sanctum Prelate , Alms Collector
That would be the deck.
3 days ago
BW control generally involves discard spells. You can get some good ones with Duress , Despise , and Castigate . If your friends play mostly creatures, then Harsh Scrutiny is good too. Hymn to Tourach is relatively cheap, but it's very very very very strong, play it at your own risk of creating an arms race between you and your playgroup.
Healer's Hawk is definitely more of an aggro card, if you want an effect like that, I would recommend Vampire Nighthawk . Obzedat, Ghost Council is incredibly strong, as is Blood Baron of Vizkopa . Vona, Butcher of Magan is incredible too.
I love merciless eviction, but you should really only run one, I would recommend you play some copies of Day of Judgment , Languish , Wrath of God , and Ritual of Soot to get those wraths earlier and keep the board clear.
I cannot recommend enough some Isolated Chapel s, Temple of Silence , Concealed Courtyard s, Shambling Vent s, and Caves of Koilos . Fetid Heath has recently plummeted in price as well, but I don't know your budget.
You'll definitely want some card draw to refill your hand too. In these colors it comes at the cost of life, for the most part. My personal favorites in casual decks are Twilight Prophet , but she is ridiculously expensive, and Kaya, Ghost Assassin . Arguel's Blood Fast Flip, Phyrexian Arena , Greed , Sign in Blood , Night's Whisper , Damnable Pact , Dark Bargain , Read the Bones , and Midnight Oil .
Hope this was at least a little helpful!
1 week ago
1 week ago
Normally people between 36-40 lands, right? I'd say this one wants 38. Couple especially good ones: Myriad Landscape and Ash Barrens. If you're serious about the token theme, maybe also Westvale Abbey Flip.
I really like your choice of a bunch of modal cards (with odd mana costs, obviously) that can do a bunch of different things. I would add a couple more - Righteous Confluence is less popular than the blue and black ones but still pretty good (life sometimes matters a lot in Commander, this gains 15).
I STRONGLY suggest the Scry temples from Theros block. Temple of Silence, Temple of Deceit &Temple of Enlightenment all help you control the top of your deck and your colors. Isolated Watchtower is also pretty freakin good in your deck as green decks will often ramp, so it should often be live.
Some pretty good ones from EDHrec that contribute to your strategy: Prognostic Sphinx, Windreader Sphinx Angel of Serenity Luminate Primordial and especially Conundrum Sphinx Penance and Future Sight. Those last three, I really would try to find room for (holy damn, especially Penance).
Then a couple general comments - you should probably try to include 2-3 sweeper effects and maybe 3-5 point removal (for a creature, I mean) effects, and a few effects that hit other permanent types (like Anguished Unmaking and Utter End). I think you'll probably want to include most of the cards I mention above that mention card draw, because it's REAL important to not get stuck on lands in EDH, and card draw's really a good way to avoid that.
A few cards that I think would be good cuts: Dowsing Dagger Flip, maybe Anointed Procession depending (you probably would want 20-30 token effects to justify this), Aphetto Alchemist, Lich Lord of Unx also because it's expensive, Master Trinketeer which has an activated ability that's way too damn expensive, Retrofitter Foundry which again is way too expensive, Sram's Expertise is probably too low impact - Righteous Confluence would be a great replacement here, for example, Connive / Concoct and Discovery / Dispersal are both a lil underpowered too.
Those are some thoughts for now - looks real fun though, isn't this commander's complexity so nifty?
2 weeks ago
Your deck can't really be that consistent, since you run so few 4x, I suspect that's what you are perceiving as it being slow. That being said Pillory of the Sleepless over One Thousand Lashes and Grasp of Darkness over Executioner's Swing would be a start. Lands might be boring, but they are some of the most important cards in your deck, in order: Isolated Chapel == Concealed Courtyard -> Temple of Silence -> Orzhov Guildgate -> Evolving Wilds and that is just the budget options. Short version change Evolving Wilds to Orzhov Guildgate. You should probably consider adding Chalice of Life Flip, but the space for that is dependent on what you do with your creatures, basically though that covers non-creatures...
Creature wise I have two not in your deck to recommend Lone Rider Flip and Divinity of Pride, the Rider is brutal in a life-gain deck and Divinity ends games if not answered. You need to do something to make the creatures more consistent, try to pick five of them and run 4x of each, preferably scaled in mana cost, for example: 4x Soul Warden, 4x Lone Rider Flip, 4x Vampire Nighthawk, 4x Rhox Faithmender, 4x Divinity of Pride. I'd probably have a setup something like that, but feel free to choose your own bodies... The point is choose the best bodies you can and run them in such a way that they are more likely to be in your hand. I hope this is of help, good luck and have fun brewing your deck.
2 weeks ago
This deck seems perfect for Westvale Abbey Flip, humans , sacrifice and a demon at the end of it... As does Zulaport Cutthroat, those little incremental gains and loses can make a difference. You also need better lands, even in a budget deck, maybe Concealed Courtyard, Isolated Chapel or Temple of Silence could help ensure your mana base. Hope this was of help, good luck brewing your deck.