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|Modern Masters 2017 Edition (MM3)||Uncommon|
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Inquisition of Kozilek
Target player reveals his or her hand. You choose a nonland card from it with converted mana cost 3 or less. That player discards that card.
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Inquisition of Kozilek Discussion
3 hours ago
Hi, welcome to modern, which is a faster format than you probably think.
You will get clobbered over the head by a 4/4 Hollow One by turn 2 on a regular basis. Having Lich's Caress as you removal spell of choice is then not very useful - the golem is just about done flattening you by the time you get to kill it. So... something much easier on the mana is needed. Fatal Push is the most popular, but for more budget-conscious deckbuilders, Victim of Night, Doom Blade, Hero's Downfall, and Go for the Throat are all possible alternatives (along with a bunch of other black removal spells - there are plenty to choose from).
You can also get removal with legs. Gatekeeper of Malakir is a decent enough card in a budget meta. Fleshbag Marauder is better if you are heavily into zombies (or other creatures), that can come back from the graveyard on their own.
Discard is more or less a necessity when playing black in modern. Thoughtseize is the better option, with Inquisition of Kozilek in the second place, and Duress as the very budget alternative. Don't bother discarding creatures out of your opponents hand with Despise - you're playing black, you'll have plenty of creature removal. You can get more powerful discard effects than these... but they also cost more mana. And the strength of 1-mana discard is that you trade your discard-card for the best card on your opponents opening hand, which you can't do the same extent with more mana-expensive cards. Also of note is Collective Brutality, both for the discard, but also because it can be used for set-up with your own graveyard. Technically speaking, Smallpox is also a discard spell - pretty strong, but takes a lot of set-up.
You can try to win on discard. Then you just have a look at an 8-rack deck somewhere, and try and make that. A card that sometimes shows up instead of expensive liliana, is Necrogen Mists. I guess you could use it in a budget monoblack control deck too - if you have a lot of recurring creatures. It could also be played with Howltooth Hollow (but that's not good if you want mana out of your Cabal Stronghold or if you can't get both players discarded to 0).
In terms of card draw, someone else already mentioned Phyrexian Arena and Dark Confidant (a.k.a. Bob). There are a bunch of bob look-a-likes too (all of which are much worse, though), and if you play in a budget meta, some of those might appeal to you. Personally, I like Asylum Visitor in my 8-rack deck, but I guess it would be good in any deck that tries to set the game into top-deck-mode.
Why all the different lilianas? Mostly, they aren't really good enough for modern, Liliana, the Last Hope being an exception (not good enough = too much mana for too little effect). Also, you've forgotten one of the better lillis: Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip.
7 hours ago
One more piece of advice, the life loss from fetch / shock lands and a playset of Thoughtseize in is exteremely punishing in my experience especially late game where this deck wants to get with running 4 four drops and five drops. Modern is a turn 3 format and some Thoughtseize should be cut for some Inquisition of Kozilek to hammer down on life loss.
9 hours ago
I understand that you're a begginer to magic and I don't intend to discourage you but the best Liliana planeswalker in modern is Liliana of the Veil. Typically you would want 3-4 copies of her.
Now that's out of the way your deck is kind of all over the place which is fine good stuff decks are totally viable in modern but you have to have some consistency to them. So take Murder for example, this is a card you would want most games so 4 copies would be a good number to run. That being said, Murder isn't usually played because better (Hero's Downfall) and cheaper (Fatal Push, Cast Down) options exist.
Lastly you should under stand the strengths of Black are cheap creature removal (see above), discard spells like Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek, as well as cards that trade life for advantage such as Dark Confidant, Phyrexian Arena, Bitterblossom or again Thoughtseize.
Creatures in black are typically overcosted or come with a significant down side (see Master of the Feast), Some are viable but must be built around like Abyssal Persecutor, Nyxathid, or Death's Shadow but the other option is to splash another color. Green pairs nicely with black thanks to cards like Tarmogoyf or Scavenging Ooze.
16 hours ago
no Thoughtseize or Inquisition of Kozilek in main? you get to get rid of their best card, and the knowledge gained from looking at their hand lets you plan how best to use your resources to control them. that is the primary advantage of esper over jeskai. Jeskai has burn, but Esper can do even more to disrupt your opponent's game plan.
2 days ago
4 days ago
Poopyface your welcome man ¡¡ Thank you very much for the support. Keep looking at the deck now and then, even now im upgrading it.
I just got rid of the Unburial Rites (sorry xyr0s) because it was very high cost even when in the graveyard, and usually you will have other better ways to spend with your mana. Also, getting rid of it allowed to put one more Inquisition of Kozilek wich is nasty, you really need a reason to not put it in almost every black deck (or if you can afford a Thoughtseize)
4 days ago
4 days ago
After looking at your sideboard, I am still very confused:
2x Ratchet Bomb
To start, the two of Ratchet Bomb? I mean, you are a three color deck, Engineered Explosives is nearly always better at 0, 1, 2, and 3 drops in this deck, since you can consistently get to any of those faster and easier with the three colored landbase. Unless you are willing to crack it turns 5-6 on 4 counters, I think it is a bad card for the list. And while also running 2x Damnation and 2x Maelstrom Pulse in the board, I'd think that only 1x Engineered Explosives is necessary unless you are running less of the other options.
Damnation is rare for the creature decks, but your deck is large in reanimation-type effects and graveyard synergies, so I'd imagine it is okay, however 2 of them makes me feel aggro is a problem for this deck, is it? Is zoo really beating your recursive threats consistently? I would imagine 1-4 Fatal Pushes in the mainboard and sideboarding Abrupt Decays out might be better in their place, so I'd go down to a copy, and sideboard out an Abrupt Decay, tossing in a Fatal Push would be better against aggro, game one and further, but honestly a Fog type effect might be better against Zoo, so I'd like to know when you sideboard them in.
Thoughtseize at x3 is a lot, I mean x1 Thoughtseize and 1x Inquisition of Kozilek is okay, but Thoughtseizes come in over IoKs against tron, and you run 2x Damping Sphere against them, so what gives? Is Gifts Ungiven that big?
Maelstrom Pulse at 2x is a lot, especially when you can toss in another Abrupt Decay, I'd rather 1x of each in the board in most matchups, I mean I guess is Troll Worship is a thing I'd like to hit the Pulses, but 2 mana and instant speed are normally better benefits than the occasional removal of two cards.
Creeping Corrosion is a lot for this deck, 4 mana and double green is hard for a deck with 20 lands, and for a deck with more self mill than draw, it is more evident here than ever. I'd scrap it for a Nature's Claim, and maybe toss in a second if we drop something else. Or maybe a Natural State.
2x Abrupt Decay
1x Desecrated Tomb (found a spot for it)!