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Swamp Discussion

derickmoore25 on Your Debt Has Come Due

5 hours ago

If you changed your manabase to 15 Swamp 4 Godless Shrine 2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 3 Plains would probably be a little more reliable plus less comes into play tapped.

Shendu on Mikaeus, the Unhallowed EDH

17 hours ago

New, small update

The deck desperately needed some more card draw. Added Infernal Tribute to replace Mind Slash. The card draw is more practical, and the ability can be activated at instant speed, though it costs more mana. It's colorless mana so it actually isn't that difficult to use. Damnation is obviously one of the best board wipes in the game, but it is way too expensive ($40), so I can't have it in both this deck and Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund. It'll be replaced by Decree of Pain, which is just as practical, considering I'll hit 8 mana every game. And hey, it's more card draw.

I found that I had one too many sac outlets (usually had more than 2 on the board, which is dumb), so I dropped Bloodthrone Vampire; it usually just sits there for 4 turns anyway. This makes room for Promise of Power, which is great value for the draw. I'm playing black so I don't care about 5 life. If I can entwine it late game, then it's all the better. Finally, I decided to remove Ancient Tomb for cheap card filter and draw with Read the Bones. Ancient Tomb is obviously amazing, but I have lost games by bleeding out with it (10+ damage from tapping for mana early), and it's also somewhat expensive (I think ~$15-$17). I have enough decks that use it, I don't need another. I have also been drawing a lot of lands with this deck, which is fine, but Ancient Tomb is colorless when I really rely on pulling a Swamp every turn. Instead, Read the Bones lets me filter for whatever I need at any point in the game.

By the way, Fleshwrither is ridiculous... with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed out, I can grab Flesh-Eater Imp and Lingering Tormentor and swing every turn for at least 10 infect (which I've done already). Sick card.

Nelstone on MonoBlack Budget Tournament Viable

21 hours ago

Your mana curve is way too high to only be running 22 lands. I would consider adding either 2 more Swamp or 2 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, if you can afford it. I would then replace 2 Nightmare (that's a cool card) with 2 other black creatures. Herald of Torment is an inexpensive flyer that might be a good replacement. Master of the Feast is another, albeit more expensive.

+1 from me! Good luck!

HaazdaGerfson on Bring Death Upon Them

1 day ago

Thanks for the deck compliment! I'm excited to see how this version of the deck runs for the weekend (Modern Open in Baltimore). I should have thought about Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth before! Great suggestion! In terms of my land base, should I swap out 1 for 1 with a Swamp? Also, in terms of Athreos, God of Passage he's not a terrible option, but I actually did run him in this deck for the longest time. I found that a majority of the time, it was hard, if not impossible, to maintain or get to 7 devotion, so the question was, "Is his enchantment ability worth 3 mana?" I decided this was not the case, and I boarded him out almost every single game.

Dracoson on Mono Black Suicide Aggro

2 days ago

Kind of piling on to what others have said, but Spiteful Returned instead of Tormented Hero. With so few heroic triggers and plenty of 1 drops, its kind of meh. You could easily skip the Sign in Blood, Pain Seer is about as far as I would go. I'd actually go with 2x Brutal Hordechief and +2 Swamp instead. Yes, he's 4 CMC, and you can't pay for his activated ability, but he'd be your closer. He doesn't even have to attack. He just makes all your creatures into Mardu Shadowspear.

mooffalosystema on 2015-02-26 update of Shock And ...

3 days ago

Krakshot, actually, that's really bad without landfall deck to rely on with abilities to play multiple lands and other triggers/uses besides a derpy 3 mill like you'd find in / like Burgeoning + Hedron Crab + Oboro, Palace in the Clouds for example (Also not Modern Legal combo), but then you have to build deck towards that.

Which might be an interesting project to try.

Fetches do the same without being legendary and providing both mana I need for the same price AND without relying there to be an creature I have 4 of total to actually do anything for me. ALSO 2 landfall triggers per turn from fetches for free instead of paying 1 mana to have less lands.

Oboro, Palace in the Clouds ability triggers nothing for me, it just returns to hand. It's an empty ability that costs me a manasource.

30% chance to trigger a combo on T2 that slows down my game for 40 bucks? what.

It's consistency at the at the cost of efficiency, also known as "scooping because I made poor choices" when guy can trigger Storm Combo on T3 and I'm sitting there returning a legendary land to hand.

I can see playing one for the flavor like Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth proxying a Swamp in mono-black but meh, I've see prettier land art.

Morac on Alesha, Who Smiles at Gender Norms

3 days ago

Command Tower is a must. You probably want the Red, Black, and White Shocklands and Checklands at the very least. Fetchlands are good but expensive (especially the ones that aren't from Khans).

Here's a good resource for looking them up:

Dual lands cheat sheet

Other than that, I recommend a selection of pretty-looking Swamps, Mountains, and Plains.

GlistenerAgent on Don't Look Back In Anger

3 days ago

I'd probably build the manabase like this:

4 Bloodstained Mire, 4 Verdant Catacombs, 3 Blood Crypt, 10 Swamp, 2 Mountain

22 lands seems alright, so you could cut the second Mountain if you wanted to. Your red mana is still very accessible, and playing six Mountains is just bad.

Tormenting Voice/Night's Whisper for some CA?

Color(s) Black
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Format Legality
Standard Legal
Legacy Legal
MTGO Legal
Unformat Legal
Unknown Legal
Heirloom Legal
Vintage Legal
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Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
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Modern Legal
Pauper Legal
Noble Legal
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Quest Magic RPG Legal
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