Blackcleave Cliffs

Legality

Format Legality
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Scars of Mirrodin (SOM) Rare

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Blackcleave Cliffs

Land

Blackcleave Cliffs enters the battlefield tapped unless you control two or fewer lands.

Tap: Add {{B}} or {{R}} to your mana pool.

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Blackcleave Cliffs Discussion

xaviermp on Modern Rakdos Burn

2 weeks ago

Mana base could be seriously fixed up. Drop the check lands for 4 Blackcleave Cliffs, as that will really keep your mana base rounded out. Having a check land on turn 1 doesn't help if the only lands in your hand are checks. A good burn deck can always run off 2 lands, and will really purr on 3, so having two lands that tap for both colors and will enter untapped for the first 3 turns are always more favorable than lands that sometimes might have to enter tapped.

Silverdrake on Insult to Injury to Death

2 weeks ago

And for lands, you should first of all cut the islands since you're not running blue anymore. If you want to spend a bunch of money and make the deck competitive you're looking at Bloodstained Mire, Blood Crypt, and Blackcleave Cliffs. For more budget options you can look at Foreboding Ruins, Dragonskull Summit, and Evolving Wilds.

rockleemyhero on Finishing Touches to Mardu Pyromancer: ...

4 weeks ago

Hey dude! Ive been looking into pyromancer a lot too and have some answers for ya:

  1. I would avoid smoldering marsh at all costs. The reasons why Blackcleave Cliffs is so powerful and a 4 of is because it etb's untapped on t1 and allows you to either bolt a bird or champion of parish, faithless looting to sculpt your hand, or more commonly, thoughtseize or inquisition someone without losing too much life. On the play, going fetch, shock, thoughtseize t1 can lose you the game if you find out they are an aggro deck.

    So this being said, since there isn't much better than blackcleave, you have to make your decision on this: are you facing more aggro or control in your meta and how do you want the deck to play? If going t1 hand disruption is important to your playstyle, then you might need to bite the bullet and up the # of blood crypts and do something like adding 2 more blood crypts, 1 dragonskull summit, and 1 sulfurous springs. If you want to preserve your life total more and know you are in a humans/aggro heavy meta, consider 2 dragonskull summit, 1 sulfurous springs, and 1 blood crypt. But again, I would avoid smoldering marsh, I think its the worst in the bunch for what you are trying to do.

  2. You may find that getting the replacement for the 2nd lilly can help your land crisis. If you go heavy into more shocks, lightning helix may be a reasonable choice. However, playing devil's advocate, mardu pyromancer really does not like to rely on using white mana because of blood moon. Looking at your list again, you are running 3 white sources which is an awful lot. These are the kind of issues that will unfortunately make your list more inconsistent and less functional. Mardu pryomancer has historically been a RB deck with a very light splash of white for SB cards and hardcasting lingering souls (which is often times means you aren't getting full value on your loots). For example, most of the top 8 lists run no white cards main except for lingering souls.

Anyways, take my advice with a grain of salt because I haven't been able to get my hands on the deck as much as I'd like. But Ive played against it enough to get a grip on how they like to play it. Also, check out Reid duke's video on it if you havent done so already - he's a fantastic pilot and I gained a ton of valuable insight by watching him play it and seeing first hand how good the blackcleave cliffs are. Good luck dude! :)

PTsmitty on Finishing Touches to Mardu Pyromancer: ...

4 weeks ago

I am trying to finalize my list for my Mardu Pyromancer deck. I am currently have two dilemmas.

The first is that I am trying to figure out a budget substitute for Blackcleave Cliffs. I have seen recommendations for Dragonskull Summit, Smoldering Marsh, and Sulfurous Springs. I am currently thinking of running Summits since they do not have as strict of a clause as Marsh and will not hurt me like Springs. Of course, Marches are fetchable in a pinch, and my current build is running more basics since I am more budget oriented. Do you all think there is a benefit from running one of the other lands over the Summits? Should I stick to just 2 copies to prevent from being stuck with more than one in an opening hand? Should I also look into adding a 3rd Blood Crypt since I do not have the Cliffs?

The second one I have is a replacement for a 2nd Liliana of the Veil. I know that a second copy really helps make the deck run smoother, but I only have the one copy. I have seen one Lilly builds run 1x Manamorphose, but I feel like that card could be very ineffective at times. I am thinking about run x1 Lightning Helix instead. Would this be a good change? Should I run a second Dreadbore or Terminate instead?

This will be the first time I played the deck so I want to make sure I make the mana as efficient as possible without breaking my budget and that I have a good card distribution/setup. Any input on this situation would be much appreciated. Thanks

ballisticexperiment on Rakdos 8-Rack Burn

1 month ago

I agree with xyr0s. You are missing Raven's Crime and Smallpox, two of 8-racks staple cards. Blightning is neat, but one of the strong points of the 8-rack shell is only needing swamps. It could be used as a finisher.

If you really want to give rakdos a shot, I would say something like Falkenrath Gorger and Fiery Temper with symmetrical discard like Liliana of the Veil and Smallpox.

You'd need to run some Blackcleave Cliffs. You need to make sure you had access to both colours at latest turn 2.

I would also not use Wrench Mind. Conditional discard is generally sub par.

Hexaflexagon on EDH Angel

1 month ago

Have you thought about giving yourself a bit of extra budget? If you do, you probably might want to consider:

You might also want to get better mana bases with(I've put them into groups for ease of reading):

Shocklands

Sacred Foundry, Godless Shrine, Blood Crypt

Fetch Lands

Bloodstained Mire, Arid Mesa and Marsh Flats

Check Lands

Dragonskull Summit, Isolated Chapel and Clifftop Retreat

Fast Lands

Inspiring Vantage, Concealed Courtyard and Blackcleave Cliffs

Slow Lands and Misc

Smoldering Marsh and Nomad Outpost

Also, to get more views on your deck, try adding more tags to it, the same way you did with the Budget tag.

Good Luck!

Boza on Budget Mardu Pyromancer

2 months ago

The only thing you cannot compromise on in a tri-color deck - the manabase - is also the most expensive thing, with 50 bucks for a Blackcleave Cliffs, your mana is really expensive. Your current mana base has 5 white sources and 0 ways to fetch them, making those 7 spells you have with white in them super hard to cast.

Boza on Deck Problems and Finalizing Decks

3 months ago

Goryo's Vengeance being a 50 dollar card, what a world we live in...

Honestly, I think a Primeval Titan + Azusa deck is a bit more up your alley at that budget. Besides Azusa, there is hardly anything very expensive in that deck and by not playing an early game focused black-red deck you avoid 50 dollar Blackcleave Cliffs.

In terms of positioning out of those mentioned, Mardu pyromancer is by far the best of those mentioned, followed by Counters Company and Grishoalbrand.

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