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Ash Barrens Discussion
2 days ago
Pretty sweet list. Always happy to see another superfriend ;D
For the mana base, I'd first get rid of your monocolor taplands. The scry 1 on New Benalia doesn't make it better then just running a plains imho, and in a deck with only 6 creatures Mortuary Mire and Sejiri Steppe just end up without targets too often. Blighted Woodland comes in untapped and can find you whatever you need. Krosan Verge enters tapped, but activating it is cheaper and it finds nonbasics. Things like Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse are often better than tapped duals, because they find you whatever color you need (once you add some basic forests) and thin your deck. Ash Barrens as well as Bant Panorama and Esper Panorama do the same, but they can also serve as untapped lands once you have all your colors. The Vivid lands (Vivid Grove, Vivid Meadow, etc.) enter tapped, but they fix for any color and synergise with proliferate. All of those are very cheap.
Next you might want to look for the cycle duals from Amonketh (Fetid Pools, Irrigated Farmland, etc.). The cycle ability is way more relevant than gaining one life imho, and they have their land types which means things like Krosan Verge or Liliana of the Dark Realms can find them. The fact they still enter tapped makes them pretty cheap moneywise. Also keep your eyes open for the Battlebond lands (e.g.Sea of Clouds), and the shockduals from Ravnica (Overgrown Tomb etc.). Those are a bit more pricey, but the fact that they are recent (and, for the BB ones, only playable in multiplayer) means that there are quite a few of them sitting in tradebinders, and they are relatively affordable. This only goes for the shocks that have already been reprinted, for the Azorious and Orzhov ones we'll still have to wait a bit. I upgraded the landbase of my Atraxa list pretty much the same way and it worked quite fine throughout.
Something else I'd definitely add to your list that helps with fixing your mana as well is some ramp. Your deck has an avg cmc of 4+, and you want to get to the point where you can cast a walker and a boardwipe / something to protect it with on the same turn asap. The fact that you have green in your color identity gives you access to some of the best ramp/fixing available. Farseek and Nature's Lore can find nonbasics if you have them, but are fine without them. Cultivate and Kodama's Reach can fix you in 2 colors. Grow from the Ashes is a bit more manaintensive, but its kicked form brings the lands in untapped and you might find it in draftchaff-boxes at your LGS. Thaumatic Compass Flip costs a bit more, but it finds you basics in a pinch and transforms into a land that taps for mana and can protect your walkers.
Then there's manarocks. The guild signets (e.g. Dimir Signet) both ramp and fix you, without requiring colored mana to cast and are very budget friendly. Astral Cornucopia and Everflowing Chalice are very good with Atraxa, and not expensive either. I'd try to run ~10 ways to get ahead in mana, maybe even more in a deck as a manaintensive as this one.
Some other budget friendly things i can recommend are:
Primevals' Glorious Rebirth: Absolute blowout card in a planeswalker deck.
Oath of Gideon: Blockers, and a very sneaky buff to your walkers that people are reluctant to use removal on but generates a lot of value over time.
Oath of Teferi: Not as abusable as The Chain Veil but also less expenive both mana- and moneywise, and still very powerfull. The etb effect can bring a walker back to starting loyalty or reuse something like Djeru, With Eyes Open. If nothing else it untaps one of the lands you used to cast it.
If you have any questions feel free to ask, good luck and have fun building and playing!
1 week ago
Ash Barrens Blizzard Specter Boar Umbra Boros Signet Azorius Signet Gruul Signet Orzhov Signet Aberrant Researcher Flip Golgari Signet Simic Signet Dimir Signet Izzet Signet Rakdos Signet Selesnya Signet
1 week ago
Here's some land recommendations to both speed up the deck and give them more utility. All recommendations are under $20.
Lands to swap:
Sunken Hollow instead of Rupture Spire
Underground River instead of Shimmering Grotto
Morphic Pool instead of Transguild Promenade
Drowned Catacomb instead of Grixis Panorama
Tainted Isle instead of Esper Panorama
Since you don't need to fetch a lot of basics, I'd swap a few basics for dual lands to ensure you always have your colors, ~10 basics is more than enough for a deck
Creeping Tar Pit
Utility Lands worth including:
Temple of the False God
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
Field of Ruin
Tolaria West (Transmute this land, to fetch another one you need)
Crypt of Agadeem
Spire of Industry
Shizo, Death's Storehouse
Hall of the Bandit Lord
2 weeks ago
Usually for me
Tri lands if applicable (ie Savage Lands)
Shock lands (ie Temple Garden)
Check lands (ie Sulfur Falls)
Scry lands (ie Temple of Malice)
Bounce lands (ie Dimir Aqueduct)
2 weeks ago
I play a lot of multicolor, and more and more i'm thinking of doing the same with all of my lands, and just making a manabase that can go into whatever deck i'm using, then back out after the game. (like if I am going to play a temur deck, I grab all my lands in that color combination and shuffle them in with my deck (basics would stay in the deck of course)
So which lands do I get, here is what I have thought of so far:
some of the cheaper fastlands and dominaria lands
the reveal a land lands
Some kind of slow fetch package?
Which lands should I buy? I'm thinking that with a slow fetch & zendicar check lands manabase I could run a lot of basics, what do you think?
4 weeks ago
Vessel of Nascency will end up costing you for 1 card--and you don't even have any artifacts or enchantments in the deck that it could hit. So I recommend swapping it out for Adventurous Impulse or Commune with Nature or something like that.
Hope some of that helps. =)
1 month ago
Vedalken Orrery, Thought Vessel, Solemn Simulacrum, Sea Gate Wreckage, Paradox Engine, Tamiyo's Journal, Elixir of Immortality, Witchbane Orb, Seer's Sundial, Myriad Landscape, Ash Barrens, Thaumatic Compass Flip, Sensei's Divining Top go well in almost every deck
1 month ago
@girlyvader If you're having troubles with consistency in your mana-base there are ways too improve it, however it's not always cheap to do so. Having all 3 OG dual lands and shock lands help out a lot, but to complete the package you'll definitely want to include the other 5 fetch-lands: Flooded Strand, Polluted Delta, Scalding Tarn, Windswept Heath and Wooded Foothills, as these can all search for your dual lands and provide greater consistency.
That said they are still rather expensive, but there are some cheaper inclusions that I would argue fit in just as well. Those cards being the match-lands: Isolated Chapel, Dragonskull Summit, and Clifftop Retreat as well as the filter lands: Graven Cairns, Fetid Heath, and Rugged Prairie. These lands are much cheaper and have done an excellent job color fixing my deck as well as reliably entering untapped. Furthermore Ash Barrens plays excellently with getting colored mana the turn you need it and Path of Ancestry while meant to be used in tribal decks reads exactly like a second Nomad Outpost that occasionally might let you scry off your commander. Both those two lands will greatly improve your access to colored mana.
Lastly if indestructible weenies are giving you grief I'd recommend in adding Slaughter the Strong. It won't remove all the creatures but it will remove armies and big creatures as well as by-pass indestructible as this wipe forces the creatures to be sacrificed. Toxic Deluge can also work in the same manner as well.
I normally run into all kinds of problematic situations in the various play-groups I've played in, so if something is giving you problems I might know of a few good solutions for it.