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((W/B) can be paid with either (White) or (Black).)
At the beginning of your upkeep, put target creature card in a graveyard into play under your control.
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Debtors' Knell Discussion
2 weeks ago
General Recommendations: Coat of Arms, Door of Destinies, Metallic Mimic, Vanquisher's Banner, Konda's Banner, Adaptive Automaton, Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle, Indulgent Aristocrat, Sanctum Seeker, Profane Procession, Bloodline Keeper Flip, Necropolis Regent, Secure the Wastes, Martial Coup, Elspeth, Sun's Champion, Elspeth Tirel, Darien, King of Kjeldor, Heliod, God of the Sun, Ravos, Soultender, Vona, Butcher of Magan , Debtors' Knell, Merciless Eviction, Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts, Teysa, Orzhov Scion, Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter, Deathbringer Liege, Righteous War, Pillar of Origins, Cavern of Souls, Unclaimed Territory (meh), Intangible Virtue (meh), Kindred Boon (meh), Eldrazi Monument (meh).
Austere Command, because you can save your tokens.
Strionic Resonator mainly for your general, but it can work for anything that triggers.
I won't try to sell this to you that much, but Mirage Mirror or Mirror of the Forebears can have some trickery to it if you play it right. Can also feel bad if you don't have any creatures on the field.
2 weeks ago
These are my suggestions on what cards to cut. Feel free to agree or disagree:
Most artifacts in the deck are not worth tutoring/reproducing. In the case of Tezzeret, your mana rocks should be on the field to cast him, not the other way around. The ship's navigator is slow and is better replaced by high greater utility graveyard effects such as Regrowth. You will never win with Mechanized Production and there are both better copy effects out there and no need to use them in this deck. Norn's Annex, Contagion Engine and Contagion Clasp are the only reasonable target in the deck. Mana rocks are better off having more variants of the same thing then this card, Tangle Wire will screw you over, and it doesn't interact with Darksteel Reactor.
Debtors' Knell - This is a 7 costing card. The objective of the deck is to cheat out a biggy by T3,4,5. At this turn, you should either be hard casting the creature or refreshing your hand for another reanimate combo.Noxious Revival - EDH is a slower format and therefore rewards higher impact effects. This card gives you one card after one turn. In contrast, you could be running a more impactful card like Seasons Past. It can give you 10 cards for cost 5.Time Warp - Taking extra turns is cool, but it doesn't fit with the playstyle of your deck. You don't ramp hard enough to gain benefit from its effect and it has negative synergies with cards such as Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur. At worst it is Explore and at best Atraxa, Praetors' Voice gets to proliferate twice.
1 month ago
So I see 102 cards. One of them is an extra fumigate and you'll have to drop something else...
Three reanimation effects with a commander that fills your grave? I'd add a few more: Bladewing the Risen, Journey to Eternity Flip, Reanimate, Cauldron Dance, Debtors' Knell, Teneb, the Harvester are all pretty good. Living Death or Patriarch's Bidding are game enders. 5 mana + 2 more for each dragon you want to reanimate... I don't know if it gets much scarier.
The Ur-Dragon- I'd put this in the 99. I think scion makes for a better commander since he is faster and grabs any dragon for you but Ur is a ton of value to go and put in your grave off scion's ability then hit with Reanimate next turn XD
Bower Passage- I find this hilarious, now dragons are unblockable.
There are so many cool dragons I don't know what else to recommend... Just experiment.
Some considerations for removal: Coat of Arms, Darksteel Forge, Slumbering Dragon. I realize you are already looking to remove 2 of those but in case you were unsure about them they really don't belong here. Slumbering is a nice early dragon but I'd rather be ramping into better dragons. I'm always terrible at removals so I really don't know what else to take out...
1 month ago
you can't have Debtors' Knell in here, your commander does not have white in it even though the card is a hybrid it is still a white and black card. so how come no Butcher of Malakir. i love golgari colors i made a graveborn deck with meren. check it out may put some ideas in your head. Gravedigger also same as your offer i have lots of decks feel free to check them out
2 months ago
Debtors' Knell if your budget allows; it lets you get Elenda back when you send her to the yard. (Friendly rules reminder: if you send Elenda to the command zone, you get no tokens from her death trigger!) Volrath's Stronghold is useful for the same reason. Hell's Caretaker rounds out your options for returning Elenda.
Cards like Bone Splinters, Fleshbag Marauder, Merciless Executioner, Barter in Blood and Innocent Blood can be really, really strong with your commander since they cause a lot of creature death. You might consider Plague Wind as your ultimate haymaker, getting Elenda truly huge and allowing you to smash for lethal commander damage.
Finally, with all your Grave Pact-type effects, ways to sacrifice your creatures for value would be strong. Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim can be a source of lifegain, and Ashnod's Altar is a classic. Viscera Seer is even a vampire! Leveraging that creature death further with cards like Blood Artist and Zulaport Cutthroat can be really solid.
A lot of my suggestions might take you away from the Vampires path (and are almost all black), but I think they'd work very strongly with Elenda.
Cathars' Crusade can turn Elenda's death into a huge board builder. Forerunner of the Legion is coming out in a couple days and can help you find clutch vampires like Butcher of Malakir or Vona. Also coming out is a nifty boardwipe that takes advantage of Elenda's small starting size: Slaughter the Strong.
I hope these suggestions helped!
2 months ago
Hey bud, love the decklist! Unfortunately, Debtors' Knell is both white and black color identity, and not legal in a U/B deck. You could consider putting in the other half of the Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood combo, or a Sol Ring (which should be in every deck ever). Hope this helps!
2 months ago
2 months ago
First off I want to say that I greatly appreciate the time you took to make such an in-depth comment and make suggestions; so thank you!
Im glad to hear that you like the concept, it's been difficult to decide how to try and make Ms. Elenda, the Dusk Rose since she seems so non-commander focused with that death clause. But regardless...
Thank you for the heads up on those cards (Debtors' Knell, Reya Dawnbringer ect.) It's nice to get info before getting the cards and from someone who's used them, especially if they don't seem to pull their weight. And the catch for Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker, you're totally right, i didnt even think about that.
I'm going to add most of what you suggested to the deck list, (some of these cards I've never even seen) since they all look really good.
Thank you again!