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Debtors' Knell Discussion
3 days ago
Debtors' Knell is one of my fav grave yard card.
1 month ago
Hellvetti_The_Lord_of_Riots Felidar Sovereign does the same as Test of Endurance so you could swap them if you want the enchant version more or I've really been considering dropping Debtors' Knell from the deck. It is just too late in the game for a deck that doesn't really care about returning creatures very much.
The archfiend would be awesome in the deck too I just haven't gotten around to picking any up. I want one for this and my Dungeon Of The Occult. Not too sure what would come out for him though. Maybe Wound Reflection, how much of this effect is actually needed in one deck? More likely something else would come out though.
2 months ago
I can agree that there isn't enough instant speed blink to necessarily warrant Venser as a blinkable target, but his main function of the deck was more for spells on initial cast, and dealing with permanent threats that get through while on the board with Aminatou and Closet, along with other cards to bounce him to hand to have him at the ready. Nonetheless, he isn't a prime target for recursion and being that Sun Titan can't get him out of the grave, he's not AS useful as I'd like him to be (even if I try to include him in all my blue decks). I will make this cut.
Elixir of Immortality is to prevent myself from decking out, as I continuously pump cards into my graveyard. It also is a back up plan to get back things I couldn't afford to lose. I feel the bottle can stay for now, unless testing proves it to be unnecessary. This will be taken into consideration for other options in the future.
I guess I should have actually explained Solar Flare as I saw it in the past. Solar flare is the use of cycling cards from the deck to the grave while putting the needed value in your hand, and recurring the discarded pieces back for later use, mainly through Unburial Rites and Sun Titan. That's how I saw it at least from the build someone I used to know had. That being said, Liliana Vess can possibly go, as I mainly included her to set up miracles on the fly, for which I have much better options. Liliana of the Veil is too useful to the deck as it causes hand disruption while filling my graveyard with recurring threats later on. Her ultimate is devastating and her use, if out early enough, for her minus ability is very helpful. Jace, Memory Adept was an alternate win condition in the standard version of Solar flare, but in EDH he won't be doing too much in this build for his cmc. I can make that cut. Jace Beleren however, is beneficial in both being a political tool with his +2, and can be brought back by Sun Titan at a later point if needed again. I can ditch Karmic Guide and Debtors' Knell, but I feel Crucible is just too powerful in a deck that throws away cards. It also fights off land destruction, an archetype I'm not extremely fond of. For those reasons I wish to keep Crucible in the deck.
Suture Priest helps fight back against token strategies by draining their life. The board wipes help stop myself from losing too much. It's also a legal target for Sun Titan. However, like with Elixir, I will consider it if testing proves it to be not as useful as planned.
I appreciate all the help and suggestions. I am happy to see reasoning and kindness towards suggestions for deck changes and will definitely be finding room for Eerie Interlude! I am also open to suggestions for cards to add.
2 months ago
If you want to get cards you want to pull off the Arcane Adaptation + Rooftop Storm combo then I suggest tutors. Some noteworthy ones are Enlightened Tutor, Vampiric Tutor (I know it's expensive, but if you are able to get one it would be good), Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, and Rune-Scarred Demon are ones I can think of off the top of my head.
Only one Counterspell?! You should be ashamed. Some of my favorites I have found are Insidious Will, Disallow, Desertion (kinda fits the "steal" theme), Render Silent, and Mana Drain (if you are willing to pay for it).
I know a lot of these are expensive, but I went with themes I was seeing are cards I think should be in here. Also, most of these are odd cmc so they can be cast off of Yennett, which is a plus.
2 months ago
Hey there fellow necromancer! I am also running the Lich Queen (long may she reign) and she truly is the pinnacle of all things undead. I like the deck you've got going on but I do have a few suggestions for you based on my own experience running zombie tribal for a while. First off, you are missing the best piece of zombie tech ever: Rooftop Storm. It's just plain unfair (for everyone else) and lets you cast Varina for free from the command zone (or at least cheaper since you have to pay command tax still). While I'm still figuring out my own configuration for my deck, I've found that Debtors' Knell is an interesting card and can be quite useful in reanimating targets you may have milled. Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite is not a zombie but boy oh boy does she make me happy to be running white now. A super buff AND a mini-board wipe is something to be feared. I would recommend adding in Cabal Coffers if you can as you can generate insane amounts of black mana and that's what the deck is hungry for (well that and brains). I know that some folks don't like him but I think it's always worth running Risen Executioner to get another lord buff. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed is another powerful zombie I would consider running too. A few pet cards for me personally are Prized Amalgam and Scourge of Nel Toth as they are constantly recurring threats or solid sac fodder. I would also suggest adding in Unholy Grotto to get back any zombie you may need again or save a key zombie from a Bojuka Bog. Vault of the Archangel is another utility land I'm exploring right now in my own deck but with a go-wide style deck like ours, it seems like it could be a nice inclusion. While Varina herself is card advantage, I would consider adding in some additional card draw effects like Painful Truths, Read the Bones, Necropotence, Rhystic Study, or Phyrexian Arena. If you would like a another win-con option, white does open up Approach of the Second Sun and Varina's ability can help dig you faster to that second casting. I hope this all helps!
2 months ago
So first things first, this deck is all about value. The cards you use for this deck should bring a ton of value as you are cheating them out for next to nothing. For instance, what value does Bringer of the Red Dawn bring really if you could just play Act of Treason for it's same ability? Who cares about the body it has, but when you play a card in Jodah is should warp the entire game.
As far as your landfall sub theme... I think you should cut it altogether. A real landfall deck requires a LOT of specific cards, most of which you DO NOT have in the deck. Cards like Roil Elemental are good on their own with you just playing one land a turn. Omnath and Ob Nixilis are cards you have to commit to for them to truly shine.
With that in mind the following cards I think are too weak for this deck, and should be cut:
- Bringer of the Red Dawn
- Ashen Rider: Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger is just strictly better.
- Empyrial Archangel: this is more of a personal card, as for this card to be effective you'd need to have Avacyn out as well.
- Frost Titan: Just not enough value.
- Kokusho: Requires someone to Kill it, and doesn't immediately have an effect. Plus it's gonna be a real "feels bad" moment when they Path/Swords/Unmake it and no trigger
- Mindleech Mass: It requires you to do combat damage before it does anything which means theres a whole turn for anyone in your pod to deal with it.
- Ramunap Excavator
- Ob Nixilis
- Reya Dawnbringer: It is a fact that enchantments and artifacts are harder to kill than creatures, it is with that in mind I would say just play Debtors' Knell over Reya.
- Urabrask the Hidden: It's good, but it A) Makes you a huge target because you are messing with people's boards and B) just isn't as good as Authority of the Consuls
- Garruk Wildspeaker: In any ordinary deck this would be fine but since he doesn't do much I'd suggest his bigger, meaner form Garruk, Apex Predator
- Khalni Gem: This is expensive, and it sets you back more than it helps you. The idea with mana rocks is to get you ahead with lands, try Coalition Relic
- Treacherous Terrain: This card is only good against decks that ramp, or in the late game, in which case you'd rather see something else like a Time Stretch.
Cards I would suggest for this deck:
- Najeela, the Blade-Blossom
- Nexus of Fate
- Baneful Omen
- Leyline of Anticipation
- Zendikar Resurgent
- Shalai, Voice of Plenty
- Zacama, Primal Calamity
- Demonlord Belzenlok
- Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
- Storm Herd
- Plague Wind
- Rise of the Dark Realms
- In Garruk's Wake
- Blatant Thievery
- Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh
- Karn Liberated
- Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
If you think my advice was helpful or if you want to check out my version of the deck, upvote and check it out here.
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3 months ago
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4 months ago
I suggest more sac outlets. Maybe a Diabolic Intent? Also, i would run Swords to Plowshares over Path to Exile if its a one or the other. I would cut Debtors' Knell rather run the black praetor... you could do Mentor of the Meek, which also works with thrumming stone... Krav, the Unredeemed and the angel lady could work well for you on the sac outlet and card draw... and just as a new fun search target the Archfiend of Despair. Erebos could be useful for you but again, finding room for all this might prove difficult. But good stuff man!