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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Modern Beyond Horizons | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Helix Pinnacle
Enchantment
Shroud (This can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
: Put X tower counters on this
At the beginning of your upkeep, if there are 100 or more tower counters on this, you win the game.
x0100011010x on All players win?
2 weeks ago
I think that trying to get to a draw through Divine Intervention (clearly how the card is intended to work) is not nearly as interesting as actually trying to make every player win (which would require obviously doing something unintended)
Za above figured out a way to make every player lose the game, which is very related but different imo.
I am sure that "legally" there is some resolution order to this combo I describe below. However, I think it is much more interesting and would be much more surprised than someone just playing Divine Intervention
Most "you win" card (in this article https://draftsim.com/you-win-the-game-mtg/ ) triggers on upkeep or end step, so you couldn't share that victory.
Halo Fountain, Helix Pinnacle, and Maze's End
all let a player win through an ability. But abilities go on the stack and I am not aware (I also didn't even look it up though) of anything that lets you copy abilities for other players.
Curse of Echoes on yourself, then Coalition Victory or Thassa's Oracle would work. Approach of the Second Sun has an annoying clause which prevents copies of it from working for other players. Unfortunately, Coalition Victory would require you giving the other player control of 3-4 creatures and 3-4 lands, so is infeasible. Thassa's Oracle might work if you get their deck down to zero cards (a way is described below), or a few if they have blue.
Twenty-Toed Toad notably lets you win in your attack step. I'm unsure how you would have multiple players attacking in one step. However, I was reviewing all the cards in the link above, and if you cast Ramses, Assassin Lord; enchant Twenty-Toed Toad to be an Assassin; have your opponent gain control of Twenty-Toed Toad (like with Custody Battle and then destroying it, give them 20 +1/+1 counters, and your opponent attacks you: They would win, so you would lose, and you had previously controlled the Assassin Toad, who attacked you this turn, so Ramses makes you win.
Giving everyone Jace, Wielder of Mysteries; or Laboratory Maniac, or copies of them; then casting Leveler and giving copies of them; and then casting something like Burning Inquiry should also work I think. You could have two of Jace/Maniac and cast two Fractured Identity to get that to happen. This route allows even more than 2 players to win.
I mean, if you declare that your objective is to make the game end in a draw... and you do that... then you won, right? Sorta?
If I pulled off either above combo, I would not feel sorta? good, I would feel like I just shattered a fundamental assumption all planeswalkers have made since before the Eldrazi were found, and rejoice
Tsukimi on
Million Dollar Shortbread (Brenard’s Blinged Bash)
2 months ago
Love to see a Brenard deck! I see you're going in a few different directions, but I think there are some fun pieces to consider and some you might want to take out. You mention food, tokens, and golems, but I see a counter subtheme as well with cards like Helix Pinnacle and Simic Ascendancy. I'd recommend cutting those since your deck is already going in a few directions and there's more fun stuff you could utilize with Brenard. I'd also suggest taking a hard look at anything that is 6mv or above, like Avenger of Zendikar etc. While fun, they don't play very well with brenard unless you are running a huge ramp suite. He works much better with cheaper creatures like Aether Channeler and friends.
Also, if you decide to run lower mana value creatures, any card with populate on it becomes very strong. I have a primer for this deck since it's my favorite, if you want any suggestions!
Eilel on
Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
4 months ago
RAMP:
Quirion Ranger (commander untap)
Scryb Ranger (commander untap + flying en prod blue)
Awaken the Woods (mana sink)
Archdruid's Charm (ook removal)
Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma (ook trample enabler)
Nyx Lotus (late game super ramp wss)
Lands:
Oran-Rief, the Vastwood (ik vind niet super maar ik ken genoeg mensen die m dat wel vinden)
Myriad Landscape (niet te veel tap lands spelen maar denk dat deze wel kan)
Card draw / advantage
Vivien, Monsters' Advocate (buiten de ability ook tutor op de -2)
Garruk's Uprising (ook trample enabler)
Battle Mammoth (creature en soort ward voor alle creatures)
Disciple of Freyalise Flip (kan je als een landslot spelen, dus eigenlijk gratis include. als je niet nodig hebt als land heb je carddraw en lifegain)
Regal Force (creature)
Tutor
Finale of Devastation (ook haste enabler)
Recursion / Graveyard
Bala Ged Recovery Flip (ook een land)
Long Rest (kan elk type kaart terug pakken, mass recursion)
Enablers
Concordant Crossroads (haste)
Surrak and Goreclaw (trample + haste)
Temur Sabertooth (combo kaart, alles met etb kan je opnieuw spelen, ook voor meer carddraw etc)
Ulvenwald Oddity Flip (Trample + haste en +1/+1 enabler als die geflipt is)
Thousand-Year Elixir (geeft je commander soort van haste en kan untappen)
Removal
Scavenging Ooze (graveyard)
Rampaging Yao Guai (ook mana sink)
Beast Within (raakt practish alles)
Terastodon (super goed)
Khalni Ambush Flip (fight spell die je als land kan spelen)
Bridgeworks Battle Flip (fight spell die je ook als land kan spelen)
Protection
Tyvar's Stand (of een mana sink)
Lightning Greaves (haste voor je commander met 0 equip)
wincons
Goldvein Hydra (mana sink en eventueel super late game extra ramp)
Ochre Jelly (mana sink + trample + moeilijk vanaf te komen)
Silverback Elder (removal / card draw / lifegain)
Alternative wincons
Triumph of the Hordes (als je een teringlijer wilt zijn)
Ferth on
Fog Draw EDH
1 year ago
I got to play a bunch this weekend! The deck performed well I've updated the list to match what I've currently got, my local shop was missing some singles.
Generous Gift moved back to the maybeboard but only cause I couldn't buy it this weekend.
I found that the deck worked quite well but I obviously couldn't close out games. I had a few scenarios where Selvala, Explorer Returned could repeat pretty much forever thanks to Sword of the Paruns or Umbral Mantle and Smothering Tithe + 4 players in the game. Flipping my commander till deck out was too painful to ever actually do so games ended with scooping.
The take away is that I need to be able to end games just to save everybody's sanity. More things like Felidar Sovereign and Psychosis Crawler are needed. Helix Pinnacle is a meme and I'll basically never pull it off. So here is the maybe board for actually finishing games.
Viseling Storm Seeker Black Vise Iron Maiden Sword of War and Peace
Some other cards that look interesting to me are Credit Voucher to help me find the above win conditions and Champions of Minas Tirith as another tax. I found that the deck was excellent at filling everybody's hands as expected.
Ferth on
Fog Draw EDH
1 year ago
Thanks KayneMarco. I thought that might be the case with Batwing Brume. I asked a buddy while finding fog cards and was told it was ok. Shoulda googled.
I like the Norn's Annex effect. I didn't think to look for more. Cutting out a fog or two and some of the less important effects like Temple Bell and Helix Pinnacle for more taxes sounds like a good plan.
Ferth on
Fog Draw EDH
1 year ago
I took out some of the four cost fogs and some less interesting cards to add
Banishing Light,Darksteel Mutation,Oblivion Ring,Beast Within,Generous Gift,Palace Jailer
Jailer may not be the best choice but being the monarch should be easy while I'm foggy and I have Protector of the Crown
Thinking I'll never realistically get Helix Pinnacle to go off so I should just swap it for Illusionist's Bracers to put on Seeker of Skybreak
legendofa on I need help coming up …
2 years ago
Rhonas the Indomitable's combat restriction and activated ability strongly support a stompy-style deck. I'm not trying to dissuade you from building the deck you want, but I do suggest at least considering other indestructible options like Anara, Wolvid Familiar + a partner, Nylea, Keen-Eyed, or Toski, Bearer of Secrets, each of which offers a different dynamic in addition to indestructibility. Neyith of the Dire Hunt can be played as mono-green if you want to lean into the fight angle, and Kogla, the Titan Ape is another potential commander there.
TurboFog can be built in mono-green. Aside from the Fog effects like Moment's Peace, Sunstone, and Tangle, cards like Arboria, Elephant Grass, Silent Arbiter, and Crawlspace restrict attacking options. Orbs of Warding and Witchbane Orb offer more protection. Heroic Intervention should be a given if you have access to one, and there's a good number of instants that grant single-target protection. You're going to want to draw heavily, so look at artifact-based draw, top-deck searching like Commune with the Gods or Vessel of Nascency, and Sylvan Library, Harmonize, and Greater Good.
Green's win conditions are heavily based around creatures and attacking, and that's only gotten more true in recent years. Helix Pinnacle works as an alternate win con for a slower game, and artifact combos are always applicable.
CrazyDanPsycho on
Zaxara, the (Hopefully) Awesome
2 years ago
I have procured a foil Helix Pinnacle that I would like to slot in, but I wouldn't know what to take out for it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. :-)
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