Kethis, the Hidden Hand

Kethis, the Hidden Hand

Legendary Creature — Elf Advisor

Legendary spells you cast cost less to cast.

Exile two legendary cards from your graveyard: Until end of turn, each legendary card in your graveyard gains "You may play this card from your graveyard."

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Core Set 2020 (M20) Mythic Rare

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Format Legality
Historic Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Arena Legal
Frontier Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Pre-release Legal
Brawl Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Standard Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Legacy Legal
Highlander Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal

Kethis, the Hidden Hand Discussion

Oloro_Magic on August 2020 Banned and Restricted

1 week ago

As a devoted Lotus Breach player I can't help but say I'm a little disappointed they decided to take this kind of unilateral action, but even I am not blind to the fact that the format had a clear and definable problem.

Inverter of Truth needed to be banned, its needed a ban for a while as that deck just far out performed anything else that the format was doing; an issue in part caused by other bans such as Smuggler's Copter but mainly due to the fact that the Inverter deck simply shrugged off competition from any "fair" magic deck. You will find very little argument I imagine that seeks to defend Inverter, and the arguments that do exist likely will offer alternatives such as Thassa's Oracle or Dig Through Time as possible bans.

As far as the other cards banned, I think this is more of a clear message than metagame action in particular. Lotus Breach didn't have great aggro matchups meaning it would have been interesting to see how the deck would fair in an Inverter-less world. But I digress, Underworld Breach likely would have had to be banned for some reason or another in the next few years, so in many ways this is simply cutting the metaphorical chord before it becomes an oppressive issue similar to the effect Inverter has had on the format. The other bans however are odd to me and are more clearly associated with this message from wizards that Pioneer is not a format where un-fair combo decks, i.e. the only decks I play unfortunately, are particularly welcome.

Of course everyone will have their opinion on that stance, I personally don't endorse it, but even if you are like me and oppose it, one has to admit that a fair format is more welcoming to new players and more advantageous for format growth in this its infancy. I strongly disagree with the Walking Ballista ban, as well as the Kethis, the Hidden Hand, I don't think either of those decks posed a significant threat to the metagame following an inverter/breach ban. In fact, in defense of the Heliod/Ballista deck, I have always found this deck to be relatively fair. Yes you can build it so it wins turn 3, but the most popular builds tend to not play out so much as a combo deck and has a good deal of interaction. Additionally, presumably with a return to more interaction in the format we would see a good deal of interaction for this deck's combo in the form of simple removal; it would have been beneficial in my mind to see how the deck reacts to a more "fair" meta. Kethis, the Hidden Hand feels the most like a statement, and there wasn't a ton of data, for obvious reasons, to consider its potential impact.

So while I agree with 2/4 bans, I don't see this as a ban on a few decks that were dominating the format, but rather a wholescale rejection of combo existing in the infancy of the format. This does not mean that the format won't breed new combo decks, as time goes on that will just happen naturally, but wizards has sent a clear message they want to keep Pioneer a format focused on fair and interactive magic. I am interested though to see what effect this announcement has on the metagame at a competitive level. Of course we are going to see a lot of brewing as people who don't share my sensibilities come back to the format, which is a good thing. However, what will emerge from the dust so to speak? Ramp decks feel like they could be well-positioned, some kind of updated version of the deck that was dominating standard until today as well. I imagine mono-black is still playable, what about UWx control, I thought the deck had a lot of potential before Inverter came along, I'm curious to see where the format goes. I for one will be working on a UGx ramp list and see where that takes me, but who knows, the best thing I personally can take from this announcement is that the format is open again, meaning its time to get in a lot of testing.

Labrodor64 on Good Commanders for Superfriends

1 week ago

Niv-Mizzet Reborn can find multicoloured Planeswalkers with ease while having access to all 5 colours. Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain and Reki, the History of Kamigawa will draw cards for every Planeswalker you play. Djeru, With Eyes Open can tutor and protect Planeswalkers. Kethis, the Hidden Hand will reduce Planeswalker costs and et them out of your graveyard. Pramikon, Sky Rampart can easily protect Planeswalkers by controlling the flow of combat.

SynergyBuild on enpc

1 month ago

Sadly, you need to get to 6 power for Sisay, since Sisay, Weatherlight Captain says 'costs less than' rather than 'equal to or less than.'

No worries, the use of Jegantha as a companion is it lets you get Sisay to 4 power on it's own, which allows the whole combo to occur with no extra pieces. Yes 11 mana is a ton, but 3-3-5 isn't too bad, when it's a 5 color, 0 card combo, you can work with anything in deck. Radha while not bad for the deck, will often be worse than other ramp pieces like Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy, or just normal ramp.

The actual legends in more competitive Sisay lists (according to lists I've seen) are Lavinia, Azorius Renegade, Anafenza, the Foremost, Gaddock Teeg, Tymna the Weaver, Thrasios, Triton Hero, Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy, Teferi, Time Raveler, Oko, Thief of Crowns, Kethis, the Hidden Hand, Dack Fayden, Aminatou, the Fateshifter, The Chain Veil, Umezawa's Jitte, Derevi, Empyrial Tactician/Najeela, the Blade-Blossom (and Samut, Voice of Dissent optionally for this combo).

Optionally (on EDHREC) Helm of the Host, Hammer of Nazahn, Reki, the History of Kamigawa, Alesha, Who Smiles at Death, Domri, Anarch of Bolas, Teferi, Hero of Dominaria, Shalai, Voice of Plenty, Kambal, Consul of Allocation, Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain, Saffi Eriksdotter, Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons, Yisan, the Wanderer Bard, Captain Sisay, Brago, King Eternal, Kunoros, Hound of Athreos, Ashiok, Dream Render/Narset, Parter of Veils/Teferi, Master of Time/Linvala, Keeper of Silence (non-Jegantha variations)

Sadly, while Radha seems okay? Tutoring it is really bad, since you could fetch value pieces like Wrenn and Six, or better ramp like Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy, and I doubt you need an extra green if you can cast Sisay and activate her, and she also already needs to have a 1 color legend out. If you are looking to use Radha for pumping Sisay, run more of the optional legends. Idk, I could be wrong but I don't see it being popular, I hope you have the best of luck with it, it seems pretty fun for the deck on terms of a flavor include!

Epicurus on 9-Shrine

1 month ago

Barbarian_Sun_Pope I think that would work well, yes. Maybe a lot of self-mill or Dredge, and a generous helping of board wipes.

In this deck I have a couple Kethis, the Hidden Hand more just as an answer for enchantment removal, and also for feeding Sanctum of Shattered Heights, but I think he'd be good for what you're talking about too.

swaretappedout on Abzan Nethroi Reanimator, but now even more dumb

1 month ago

This is a really unique list compared to the other Nethroi, Apex of Death lists I've seen on tappedout. I am working on a Kethis, the Hidden Hand list so the commanders can be interchangeable, but I might cut that theme out altogether and try something similar like this. +1 from me!

rdean14 on Card creation challenge

2 months ago

Bc I have been thinking about making dueling decks: a Kethis, the Hidden Hand Men Tribal and Sisay, Weatherlight Captain Women tribal (not intensely but thought it's a funny/interesting idea):

Ashiok, Gender Neutral

Whenever you cast a man legendary creature spell, you may search your library for a woman legendary creature, and put her into your hand. Shuffle your library.

Whenever a woman legendary creature enters the library, reveal the top six cards of your library, you may put any number of men legendary creatures revealed this way onto the battlefield. Exile the rest.

You may only cast one legendary spell per turn.

2/3


UnSet or wacky/chaos card, like Scrambleverse or Warp World, etc.

KIRK77 on legendarys golos

2 months ago

Kethis, the Hidden Hand would probably be pretty good

Aminatou, the Fateshifter or effects like it would be good at setting up your top deck

Maybe In Garruk's Wake instead of Decree of Pain? Up to you but i feel like you don't need to draw when you're doing the golos thing, plus you don't have to lose your board

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