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|Ultimate Masters (UMA)||Common|
|Duel Decks: Nissa vs. Ob Nixilis (DDR)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2013 (C13)||Uncommon|
|Modern Masters (MMA)||Common|
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Walker of the Grove
Creature — Elemental
When Walker of the Grove leaves the battlefield, create a 4/4 green Elemental creature token.
Evoke (You may cast this spell for its evoke cost. If you do, it's sacrificed when it enters the battlefield.)
Walker of the Grove Discussion
4 weeks ago
Altoman, there are good points in your input. Firstly, yes, it intends to be not necessarily a control strategy, but a midrangey strategy. That's the reason I'm packing Rotting Rats instead of Stinkweed Imp , along with removal. I know ub and br reanimator are somewhat established archetypes, but that's not what I'm trying to achieve, I've played turbo exhume on RB and Ub Reanimator with Striped Riverwinder for a while and got bored of them. The concept of this new intent is to play WB since is the only color combination which allows you to play more than four reanimation spells in your deck, even up to 16 if you feel like doing it, and that's the very reason I wouldn't like to move from white (although I could think about splashing a third color as the professor did on his Mardu Reanimator deck https://youtu.be/Pun-et4nIP0).
That said, I agree I might need either some protection for the reanimated creatures, a faster deck, or (IMO) even more reanimation spells. On protection, I can stay on white and pack a couple Benevolent Bodyguard s, Standard Bearer s, Apostle's Blessing , Emerge Unscathed , or hand interaction as Duress .
Ulamog's crusher is no Emrakul, but is probably the best reanimation target on pauper right now, and it can win you a game on its own on early turns (mid to late game is more difficult, depending on what you're facing), and that's why is the founding concept of the turbo RB variant. I could very well pack 1/2 copies of Dragon Breath which are proven to steal a couple games every now and then (but for any decks playing unsummon, assuming you win g1, they still only have to leave 1 Mana open to ruin your plans).
What I was thinking about is playing more resilient biggies as Walker of the Grove , Striped Riverwinder , or anything with hexproof, shroud, regeneration or with an interesting ETB/leave the battlefield effect. I'll probably keep crusher, because of his raw power is worth it, then probably cut some stuff like horror of the broken lands, nightstalker, and cycling creatures for either more symmetrical discard, hand filtering\drawing ( Night's Whisper , Dusk Legion Zealot and friends come to mind) or hand disruption along with the aforementioned resilient critters. I believe V 2.0 might have something of that. What do you think?
6 months ago
You may want to consider Angelic Renewal in this deck. The way it works with Evoke, you pay the Evoke cost, and by sacrificing Renewal, you get to keep the creature, as well as the ETB when returns to the battlefield. I've run the interaction in Pauper decks, and it's hilarious to do things like turn-2 Renewal, turn-3 Mulldrifter to draw 4 and get a 2/2 flier. You can do similar things by exiling the creature before it's sacrificed with Parallax Wave , Deadeye Navigator , Roon of the Hidden Realm , and Endless Sands . If you like that plan, I would include AEthersnipe and Walker of the Grove , too.
I'm also a little confused as to why you're not running Scapeshift in a Gates deck, especially one full of Landfall creatures. Other good land-fetch cards include Skyshroud Claim , Hunting Wilds , Ranger's Path , Wood Elves , Krosan Verge , Nature's Lore , and Karametra, God of Harvests , all of which fetch your Shocklands.
Path of Ancestry is fantastic in tribal decks, and it is an absolute staple in 5-color tribal decks.
The final thing I would do is include some looting effects and self mill that won't put your Gates in the yard, since your commander wants expensive Elementals to reanimate. Kiora, Master of the Depths and Mulch could be good on the mill side, and Faithless Looting , Frantic Search , Greater Good (You can sac Evoked elementals in response to the trigger! Value!), Sultai Charm , and Chart a Course are all good for looting. Also, Surveil can help to fill the yard, as well. Try Notion Rain and Price of Fame (Good for killing Commanders!).
As for cuts, I would lose Brighthearth Banneret (land ramp is just better most of the time), Fertilid (7-mana Explosive Vegetation is bad, even if it has recursion), Rubblehulk (no ability, so it'll just get chumped for days. Run Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar if you want the land-count effect), and Tyrant of Discord (too expensive for a random effect).
1 year ago
I'd suggest removing these cards:
Brambleweft Behemoth - It's a 6/6 for 6 with trample, yes it's an elemental but there are far better ones, especially for 6 mana.
Drove of Elves for 4 mana, you'd want something stronger than this, it's not an elemental, and the only real upside is that it has hexproof.
Nissa's Encouragement It's not really worth to have, considering that the cards it gets you aren't that great.
Nissa, Genesis Mage there are better nissa walkers out there
I'd suggest these cards:
Ashling the Pilgrim you can build up a boardwipe, and with omnath triggers, you could easily kill everyone.
Briarhorn gives you either a 3/3 blocker with +3/+3 on target creature for a combat trick, or you can evoke it, get the +3/+3 anyways and then you get to deal damage with Omnath.
Brighthearth Banneret makes your ele's cheaper
Fertilid 2 land for 3 + 4 mana instant speed fetch too.
Flamekin Harbinger topdeck Eletutor for 1 mana. Really recommend this card, plus elemental decks are the only decks which can really run this.
Greenwarden of Murasa It's effectively a big, double eternal witness.
Incandescent Soulstroke lets you cheat out an elemental which then gets sacrificed later.
Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar gives you ways to return lands to your hand for more landfall triggers.
Skullmulcher gives some card draw.
Soul of the Harvest I know it doesn't work with all the tokens you make, buuuut it does give draw.
Undergrowth Champion gives you a nigh indestructible blocker so you can go wild with your attacks.
Walker of the Grove gives you a 4/4 ele when it leaves the battlefield.
Budoka Gardener gives you extra land draws/elemental generation
Flamekin Village gives a creature trample, and is an ele land
Primal Beyond is also an elemental land.
Raging Ravine is also an elemental land
Skarrg Guildmage makes a land 4/4 for 3 mana
Waker of the Wilds does the same thing.
Vivien Reid gives some nice card draw.
Animist's Awakening with the amount of ramp you have, you could easily have a massive awakening.
Chord of Calling is a pretty good tutor in green.
Khalni Heart Expedition Gives you moooooore ramp, but more importantly, double landfall triggers at instant speed.
Crop Rotation is an instant speed landfall.
Harrow more instant speed landfall.
Perilous Forays Sacrifice your free landfall elementals for 1 misc, get a tapped basic, and another elemental.
Sakura-Tribe Elder for more instant speed landfall.
Tireless Tracker gives you 2 mana card draw for landfall.
Forgotten Ancient can be a real all star when buffing up your board.
Grave Sifter could be a nice include to let you replay elementals, but considering that people are bringing tribal decks, maybe not.
If you went down the burn route, Hostility would be a fun card.
Rite of the Raging Storm is a pretty fun card in multiplayer.
Sylvan Awakening is okay, and pretty funny to kill someone with 2/2 lands.
Eternity Vessel Can make you live forever
Indomitable Creativity you can destroy your own elementals to get other creatures.
Kamahl's Druidic Vow upside is that you can get heaps of lands, downside is that you don't have /that/ many legendary permanents.
Constant Mists will protect you from damage all the damn time.
If you wanna be super mean, Tectonic Break to destroy everyone's lands, except that you'd have way more lands out than anyone else. Boom // Bust Destructive Force Devastating Dreams From the Ashes Thoughts of Ruin Tremble Wildfire
1 year ago
1 year ago
OK! SO! Flicker, is all about those ETB's (enter the battlefield) and LTB's (Leaves the battlefield) there are some angels with some pretty fantastic ETB's but let us never forget such powerful cards as
if you need more flicker enablers I also have more of those.
1 year ago
1 year ago
I see you either bought the prebuilt or you went and got the commander's anthology, either way I like your pick of Roon. Now a bunch of these cards are either niche playable, or sadly don't have much relevance since they do nothing in the absolute worst case, but I'll get onto that topic a little later.
Now first begs the question: "Where am I going with Roon and what are my win conditions" You can't just drown your opponents is straight value and hope they give up because you drew so many cards. So you can go 3 ways:
Bant aggro/good stuff: This deck abuses the fact that Roon is a 4/4 beater with trample and vigilance that can save a creature or remove a blocker, the deck is more focused on the value it gains for using cards like Cathars' Crusade, Meadowboon, and Call for Unity to allow the smaller value creatures that can incidentally help get to the bigger threats do something (swing face): Solemn Simulacrum, Farhaven Elf, Mulldrifter and smaller bodied tokens to get bigger in case the value threats are gone or to close out games faster. It's finishers are go-wide aggro threats that play off cards like the crusade like Avenger of Zendikar, Walker of the Grove, Trostani's Summoner, Hornet Queen, Armada Wurm, and Craterhoof Behemoth to play off of all those tokens. Birthing Pod is a must for this style of deck as it allows you to get those value threats faster with no real setback. typically has some interaction like Counterspell or obligatory Cyclonic Rift, other than that its a value aggro deck.
Bant value control: This style really abuses the fact that Roon can blink stuff. Its focus is to lock its opponents out any way it can. Some styles of this variant vary, like hard lock, and soft lock. It has some of the same building blocks as aggro like using Mulldrifter and Solemn Simulacrum, but it focuses more on abusing Roon's ability with cards like Training Grounds and denying its opponents with value with Stonehorn Dignitary, Mystic Snake, Reflector Mage, Nevermaker, and Gilded Drake. Obviously it focuses less on attacking so its value threats use their abilities more to influence opponent's. It plays counterspells and good spot removal to assure victory, it can even hedge into becoming a stax build, (hard lock).
Hybrid: It has the best of both worlds with, it doesn't focus too much on either but has the ability to win on either front. this style sacrifices a consistent win condition to go and secure a spot to play value creatures and typically beats face for victory in multiplayer by stalling out scarier opponents and making allies with Roon's blink ability. In 1v1 it has the capability to dominate equally fast decks with its splashed control aspect. It uses the crusade as well, along with those huge value threats like the avenger of zendikar and birthing pod (for value), along with controlling value creatures like the stonehorn dignitary and gilded drake (secret tech, run Thought-Knot Seer). Some play more into one aspect over the other, and that's fine.
At the end of it all Roon is exceedingly versatile and can meet most standards you set it to, however Roon decks can be hosed by an artifact and its creature variants. Torpor Orb, if you don't have something to play around this like Naturalize, Krosan Grip, or Return to Dust there is really nothing your deck can do to stop it. The same goes for the creature variants, Hushwing Gryff/Tocatli Honor Guard, however since they are creatures they are inherently easier to remove, like with Swords to Plowshares, and Path to Exile. Some control variants play one or more of the value threats or Meadowboon to play around Orb when they don't have artifact/creature removal.
I tend to stay away from cards like Ghostway and Ghostly Flicker since they do nothing when you have no creatures on the battlefield, unlike their creature counterparts they can't block when you need a blocker. You have found a couple of blink creatures that fit the bill, and one that I didn't know existed! There is one to keep in mind though: Eldrazi Displacer its a fantastic card I recommend. Like mistmeadow witch and Roon it has repeatable blink, but it returns immediately, although tapped it can be used to invalidate blockers or to gain value. However you will need a bit more reliable colorless sources, which is why there are basics called Wastes, if you do run this I recommend running 3-4 wastes (4-6 if you have the seer).
Feel free to ask questions or peek at my list.
I hope this helps your brewing process, as well as others who seek to make a Roon deck!
1 year ago
A ton of your cards are not standard legal, so you might want to change your decks format. Also, you might want to think about creating a common theme for your deck. Right now you have tons of options, lifegain, ramp, midrange, etc. But throwing them all together makes it a little difficult to create a deck that works well. Stick to one or two themes. After that you should try to gather multiple copies of the cards you think fit best. Having multiple copies helps with consistency in your deck.
I would recommend replacing your Wood Elves with a few Llanowar Elves and your Jaddi Lifestrider with an Essence Warden. She's not as cheap as you may want, but she's wonderful for creature heavy decks like this. I would also try to find a better replacement for Walker of the Grove
Other good cards for decks like this are:
Soul of the Harvest, Thragtusk, Sylvan Caryatid, Dungrove Elder, Champion of Lambholt, Primeval Bounty, Rampant Growth, Forgotten Ancient Silvos, Rogue Elemental, Predator Ooze, and Rampaging Baloths, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Vinelasher Kudzu, Reclamation Sage, Scute Mob,Lifecrafter's Bestiary, Karametra's Acolyte (Once again, not always the cheapest, but you can pick and choose)
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