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Eidolon of the Great Revel
Enchantment Creature — Spirit
Whenever a player casts a spell with converted mana cost 3 or less, Eidolon of the Great Revel deals 2 damage to that player.
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Eidolon of the Great Revel Discussion
9 hours ago
Okay, I got to thinking... you're clearly running the risk of losing with these cards in your deck and Eidolon of the Great Revel makes it that much more likely. I guess that's the point of it. Please clarify for me if I'm missing something. Sometimes I can be... a little... slow.
9 hours ago
Its pilot (who's a friend of someone I know) told in an interview (or to that friend, I really can't remember) that he played it in place of Eidolon of the Great Revel, as it is much better in the current meta. Doesn't eat any kind of removal, doesn't hurt you, and can be absolutely devastating if left unchecked (as most decks can't interact with it and won't always sideboard against it since they doesn't want to oversideboard against burn). :)
1 day ago
I would replace any number of Guttersnipe / Firebrand Archer for 2-4 Harsh Mentor if ur on semi budget, if not i would go for Eidolon of the Great Revel. Also Goblin Guide is great but expensive.Searing Blaze and Shrine of Burning Rage is good. Soul-Scar Mage is great if you are looking to go more creature removal style. Shard Volley looks bad but is actually just a lightning bolt, because you can sacrifice a tapped land and that can be the last 3 damage you need to finish them off. Also Skullcrack is great against ur worst enemy, lifegain. Magma Jet is great because its 2 damage and lets you get rid of extra lands/spells you dont need. Searing Blood is just another Searing Blaze and is almost as good.
A much more powerful version of this deck can be achieved for not a lot more using white or black for Boros Charm and Lightning Helix and Deflecting Palm is good against almost all creature decks and lots of other decks because you can redirect spells like Lightning Bolt. it is amazing against Emrakul, the Aeons Torn because it does not target him. And if you play competitively you will know the deck Bogles and realize that it just beats them. it also beats the deck Death's Shadow.
Black is good for Bump in the Night
I would just cut back on Grim Lavamancer, to 1-3, Firebrand Archer to 0-2 Guttersnipe to 0-2, I like Young Pyromancer so that could stay but if ur looking for cuttables you can go to 2-3 Browbeat is not great and would go 1-2 tops, Arc Trail is just god awful, no offense, and I would cut to 0. Rift Bolt and Lava Spike are amazing and Sunscorched Desert is whatever but if you are going into a second color I would cut them down to 0-2. Lightning Bolt is a must have and
3 days ago
Idk I have playtested with Claim and Vexing Devil too and it's been decent so far. Best is doing this T1/T2 to put lots of pressure early but it's bad in lots of matchups of course (anything that runs a decent amount of removal basically).
I found out the best thing is to Claim Eidolon of the Great Revel, allowing you to virtually have several more copies which isn't bad at all. The Fame part is somehow relevant on an empty board with a pesky hasty Goblin Guide / Monastery Swiftspear but it's far from gamebreaking.
However, when I hear/read 'instant and sorceries', my mind immediately thinks of Izzet.
3 days ago
Thoughtsnon Eidolon of the Great Revel for more....punishment
4 days ago
Ok, after everyone's comments, here are my thoughts ...
GOOD MATCH-UPS (Bant Knightfall, UW Control, GBx Midrange, Jeskai Control, Death's Shadow): Mainboard is fine; no sideboard slots needed.
- Ancient Grudge, if I end up using some number of Trinisphere too.
- Ancient Grudge + Shatterstorm, if I don't use Trin'
- Obstinate Baloth (putting one back into the main) and Kitchen Finks (in the side)
- Maybe some Trinisphere.
- The more I think about it, the more I think Beast Within is the key. Say an opponent casts Scapeshift and sacrifices 7 Lands to fetch 6 Mountains (basics and non-basics) and a Valakut. All the Lands enter simultaneously and 6 Valakut triggers go on the stack. With the triggers on the stack, I kill a Mountain. The trigger from that Mountain will resolve and I'll take 3 damage. But the triggers from the other 5 Mountains fizzle, since "the ability will do nothing if [my opponent controls] fewer than 5 Mountains other than that new one by the time it resolves" (source).
- Beast Within is also superb against a resolved Primeval Titan.
- I might be able to catch an inexperienced pilot with Crumble to Dust, but an experienced pilot will wait until the last second (i.e., fetching them with Scapeshift) to play their Valakut. Crumble may still be worthwhile though ... partly for free wins against less experienced pilots, but mostly because hitting Stomping Ground will leave most decks with only 10 Mountains ... depending on the board state, that will often not be enough for lethal.
- Blood Moon is of course amazing in the match-up, but post-board they will almost certainly have Engineered Explosives and Reclamation Sage to deal with it. Still, Blood moon #5 may be worthwhile.
ELDRAZI AND Gx TRON:
- I'm excited to try Crumble to Dust here.
- Blood Moon is of course amazing in the match-up, but post-board they will almost certainly have Ratchet Bomb, Nature's Claim, etc. to deal with it. Still, Blood moon #5 may be worthwhile.
- Beast Within for Devoted Druid and Vizier of Remedies
- Anger of the Gods, for everything else.
- For Counters CoCo: Druid and Vizier demand answers. Renegade Rallier and Eternal Witness makes Exile effects much better.
- For Valuetown CoCo: 7x Manadorks, Ramunap Excavator, and Knight of the Reliquary complicate the Land Destruction plan.
- As with any White deck, I need to watch out for Blessed Alliance post-board. Burrenton Forge-Tender, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Reclamation Sage and Qasali Pridemage could make an appearance as well.
- 3x Trinisphere to slow them down or Eidolon of the Great Revel to kill them
- 1x Anger of the Gods for Goblin Electromancer and Baral, Chief of Compliance
The bottom line (for now anyways) ...
Main: 1x Obstinate Baloth
4 days ago
Thanks so much for all the comments! WOW!
I've played a bunch of matches with Blood Moon #5 in sideboard, but my match-ups vs. the three-color decks are all good enough that I don't think it's the best use of a sideboard slot for this deck.
Gut Shot's is amazing vs. mana dorks on T1-2, but for anything else and for any turn after that, I like Sudden Shock and Lightning Bolt much better. And to get Gut Shot on T1-2 I'd want to run it as at least a 3-of.
I really like the idea of Pithing Needle, but I personally haven't done enough studying/gotten enough reps in with it to use it effectively. I suspect you'll see it in my board this time next year though!
Funny you should ask about Trin' vs. Affinity. I hadn't been bringing it in at, since they can usually dump their hand before it comes online. But I was thinking it could be REALLY effective, so I've been trying it out in lately ... which is why I just pulled the Shatterstorm lol!
Ok, I'm totally embarrassed I never thought of Crumble to Dust! That's EXACTLY what I'm trying to do with Surgical Extraction but Crumble does it so much better it's not even funny. Thanks so much!
Chalice of the Void is amazing, but I like the fact I can still easily cast though Trinisphere. Plus you're right on the budget ... it'd be a solid investment, but the cost prevents me from using it anytime in the near future.
Eidolon of the Great Revel though? That's a VERY intriguing option, and one I had never considered. Thanks so much!
I love Trinisphere too, and I've been amazed at how useful it is vs a wide range of decks. Against Storm though, I like your idea of Trin' + Gravehate.
Surgical Extraction is actually great as a "generic" sideboard card. It gain us a ton of information, stops every Lightning Bolt/Thoughtseize/whatever after the first, blanks Snapcaster Mage's Flashback ability, nerfs Tarmagoyf, and generally messes with Graveyard decks. And though it's an edge case, you can also use it to reduce the chance of late-game mana flood by hitting your own Fetchland. So when I started thinking about how to beat Titan Shift, it was the first card that came to mind. All that said though, I agree that Crumble to Dust and some better Graveyard hate is MUCH better for what this deck wants to do!
Yeah, every single time I face Burn I think about you and Big Robot! I did a TON of testing a while back with Huntmaster of the Fells Flip in the main, but I'm embarrassed to say I never really thought about him in sideboard. That's really interesting, and I'll give him a hard look.
I love Beast Within but I don't like seeing it in my opening hand, so I'm not inclined to bump it up to 4x in my 75. If I've got the space though, I know there are enough Planeswalkers, and big beaters (in Colorless, Black, and Green) in the match-up list above to justify Beast #3. We'll see ...
As always, thanks so much!
Yeah, my mainboard is VERY much optimized for the Death's Shadow match-up, and I've absolutely sacrificed some percentage points vs. Burn to do so. I think that's the right meta call ... though I of course won't know for sure until it's too late! :-D
And I totally agree on the goodness of Blood Moon vs. Boros and Naya Burn. I learned that the hard way early on, when I had the opportunity to cast a Blood Moon in First Main, chose not to (so I could use the mana for something else in Second Main), and promptly died to Deflecting Palm. Oops!
That's a really good point on keeping Sweepers post-board vs. Storm for Empty the Warrens. Thanks!
I'm not sure who first taught me about mul'ing aggressively, but it's once I've passed on to others as well. There's one big exception though: When facing a bunch of hand disruption. I'd MUCH rather keep a meh 7, than mul' to an amazing 5 ... which turns into a meh 4 on my opponent's T1!
Thragtusk is a superb card, but I like Obstinate Baloth better for this deck. Mostly because it's lower on curve but also because its Discard-to-Battlefield effect is randomly useful. Plus, Death's Shadow is already an easy match-up.
Yeah, I keep coming back to Scooze as my favorite Graveyard hate too. I think you'll see it when I update!
I love Anger of the Gods vs. Dredge too (I pulled it out of my sideboard a while back, only because Dredge kind of died off locally). But yours and other comments here have me liking it more and more ...
Idk on Eidolon of the Great Revel yet either ... I look forward to figuring out an opinion though!
Good point ... there may actually be more variance here than data!
Other points I try to keep in mind are the timing of my wins and losses (I'm still pretty new to the deck, so plenty of the losses were punts and clueless sideboarding) and the casual-ness of my meta (plenty of the wins were against people testing new cards, rather than against the finely tuned decks they'll be bringing to a PPTQ)
Thanks though for the reminder!
Thank you all again! I REALLY appreciate the time y'all invested in making my deck better!
5 days ago
If you're looking at just one lifegain fattie in the side, I would go with Thragtusk over Obstinate Baloth, as it can trade with Tasigur and Angler in the Death's Shadow matchup. I have found Obstinate Baloth to be superior to Huntmaster of the Fells in the aggro matchup, so maybe curve out and go to 2 finks, 1 baloth, and 1 thragtusk?
For dredge, I haven't found anything better than scooze, as it hates the graveyard and blocks. Anger of the Gods is very good also, and if they're expecting it I've had Dredge players slow down to play around it.
I would like at least two Anger of the Gods in the side. Much better than Bonfires if you have it in opening hand game two against aggro.
I find the idea of Eidolon of the Great Revel very interesting, never thought of it before. I could see it being good against storm and deaths shadow, but not really sure if it is better in the slot than Trinisphere.