Elder Deep-Fiend

Legality

Format Legality
Pre-release Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Casual Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Frontier Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Eldritch Moon (EMN) Rare

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Elder Deep-Fiend

Creature — Eldrazi Octopus

Flash

Emerge (You may cast this spell by sacrificing a creature and paying the emerge cost reduced by that creature's converted mana cost.)

When you cast Elder Deep-Fiend, tap up to four permanents.

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Elder Deep-Fiend Discussion

gilapeuro on Starter Dimir

3 weeks ago

Welcome to the Magic community and congrats on building your first deck! You can certainly build around your commander but if you would rather double down on the Lovecraft-style monster theme, consider adding some more ramp to the deck and some cards that will let you do silly things because your sea-monsters. Of course, you can't forget to add some more tentacled monsters as well. With that in mind, here are a some of my suggestions for the deck. Hope this helps and that the building goes well for you!

Cthulu's Friends: Lorthos, the Tidemaker, Fleet Swallower, Stormtide Leviathan, Sire of Stagnation, Scourge of Fleets, Stormsurge Kraken, Elder Deep-Fiend, Kederekt Leviathan, Trench Gorger, Inkwell Leviathan, Deep-Sea Kraken, Grozoth

Ramp: Sol Ring, Worn Powerstone, Hedron Archive, Thought Vessel, Thran Dynamo, Talisman of Dominance, Mind Stone, Dreamstone Hedron, Commander's Sphere, Dreamscape Artist, Walking Atlas

Cheat-y Stuff: Quest for Ula's Temple, Quicksilver Amulet, Whelming Wave, Omen Machine, Braids, Conjurer Adept, Gate to the AEther, Gate to the AEther, Timesifter, Paradox Haze

SirSh4ggy on #NoLivesMatter

1 month ago

Does the extra mana from Blight Herder play a crucial role? I was thinking, you might go more aggro by changing it out for Reality Smasher, or instead you could use Mindmelter as a late-game card advantage. If you don't need more hand manipulation, you could introduce Bearer of Silence for removal or a body. Do you get Elder Deep-Fiend on the field often? That card is beast

elementalheroflamewingman on Core of Faeries

1 month ago

rothgar13 I'm playing a monoblue ninja-fae list that runs Elder Deep-Fiend along with Mistbind Clique. You really only have to do a 1-2 punch tapping down their lands once and you get way ahead in tempo, especially with the counterspells you probably play. Spellstutter Sprite is probably the card that allows you to stave off your opponent building up a great start too fast, while giving you a champion target.

Xica on Core of Faeries

1 month ago

rothgar13
There is nothing forbidding slyvannos, from going off the beaten path, and building a list that has faeries, and is not a tempo deck.

Obviously in the archetypal faerie tempo decks, Elder Deep-Fiend doesn't have a place.
Still that is no reason not to experiment with the card.

sylvannos
If i would wan't to include Elder Deep-Fiend in a list, i would take a look at evoke creatures, since they can be cast for their evoke cost (and their ETB effect), then in response to their sacrifice trigger from evoke, you can cast Elder Deep-Fiend, and sacrifice them to it.
Which is real nice, because they tend to have mana costs that are a lot higher then their evoke cost, and Elder Deep-Fiend only cares for their nominal cmc, not for how much you have cast them.

Mulldrifter, AEthersnipe, Shriekmaw are all real nice for this purpose.

Xica on Core of Faeries

1 month ago

rothgar13
There is nothing forbidding slyvannos, from going off the beaten path, and building a list that has faeries, and is not a tempo deck.

Obviously in the archetypal faerie tempo decks, Elder Deep-Fiend doesn't have a place.
Still that is no reason not to experiment with the card.

sylvannos
If i would wan't to include Elder Deep-Fiend in a list, i would take a look at evoke creatures, since they can be cast for their evoke cost (and their ETB effect), then in response to their sacrifice trigger from evoke, you can cast Elder Deep-Fiend, and sacrifice them to it.
Which is real nice, because they tend to have mana costs that are a lot higher then their evoke cost, and Elder Deep-Fiend only cares for their nominal cmc, not for how much you have cast them.

Mulldrifter, AEthersnipe, Shriekmaw are all real nice for this purpose.

rothgar13 on Core of Faeries

1 month ago

Most Modern decks just aren't capable of the level of lockdown you describe, and attempting to do so seems foolhardy to me. Faeries is all about getting ahead - you want to get set up with an advantage engine (Ancestral Vision, Bitterblossom, or if you're really lucky, both), then aggressively trade cards 1-for-1 whenever possible, preferably while establishing a board presence to chip your opponent to death. It doesn't matter if the opponent gets a thing or two past your defenses as long as your board is doing better than theirs. Elder Deep-Fiend fits in with this plan at first glance. The problem is casting the darn thing is almost impossible for a typical Faeries deck - the deck has few creatures it can sacrifice, and those creatures have a low mana cost. Furthermore, the opportunity cost of playing means you'd have to either cut Mistbind Clique or shave Cryptic Command in order to make the curve work, and EDF isn't better than either card. What the deck needs (and what WotC has refused to print) is, as you noted, better things to do at the bottom end of the curve.

hwagner on Core of Faeries

1 month ago

When adding a card to a deck the questions asked should be "Does this card help the deck? Does this card fix the deck's problems? Is this the best option for the deck?" Elder Deep-Fiend doesn't do anything to make faeries a better deck. It doesn't fix what we need it to. So why would you suggest adding it? Sure it is a good card but it has no reason to be in faeries. I noticed you mentioned Sanctum of Ugin, what does that have to do with faeries? Is there a list that plays it? If so, why? The faeries manabase as you mentioned is already incredibly taxing. Im sorry if I come off sounding harsh or like an a**hole. Im not meaning to I just really don't understand why elder deep fiend is being considered for faeries lol

Xica on Core of Faeries

1 month ago

hwagner
Elder Deep-Fiend isnt that bad.
Its just that the faerie decks need to have a low mana curve, and the Cryptic Command & Mistbind Clique package is demanding on the manabase in itself without adding other high cmc cards.

In other shells Elder Deep-Fiend can be really nice, for example its interaction with Sanctum of Ugin is insane.

(And there may be a deck that has both faeries and deep-fiend in it. But its not been created yet - at least to my knowledge. And such a deck certainly will be very different from the classic UB faeries, maybe it could snatch some place in the ninja faerie lists, but then it reduces the value of Disrupting Shoal)

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