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Emerge (You may cast this spell by sacrificing a creature and paying the emerge cost reduced by that creature's converted mana cost.)
When you cast Elder Deep-Fiend, tap up to four permanents.
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Elder Deep-Fiend Discussion
5 days ago
1 week ago
@Wendigo4481 No problem, I'm glad you realized I was just explaining things because I was afraid I came off a little "pushy", like I was saying no your card won't work sorta thing. I think the deck is fun to play, it does take some thinking and a little practice to get used to sequencing things and knowing what you need to look for as your milling but overall it's fun. People can get a little salty when you flash in an Elder Deep-Fiend in their upkeep, wipe the board, tap their lands down, and then bring back a Haunted Dead and a couple Prized Amalgam at the end of the turn because they're basically dead the next turn and didn't get to take their last turn but the big eldrazi and the graveyard stuff is what makes the deck fun to play.
1 week ago
Really cool deck! To make it rotation proof I would swap Permeating Mass with Oashra Cultivator. I think it could be as effective if not more since it adds ramps value to the deck as well.Also swapping either Elder Deep-Fiend or World Breaker for Aetherwind Basker could work, so you can make the most of the energy you get lategame.
2 weeks ago
I agree, I want a deck with a good RDW matchup, but I have a feeling where standard has reached a point where it is actually going to "rotate" which deck is best based on what the deck of the moment is, which is why I have a feeling there's going to be a lot of Mono B Zombies and GB Snek at DC because those deck overperform against the RDW deck.
The main card that I'm worried about anyways is Abrade, which I think I'm going to have to accept the fact that this deck is just weak to; which is why I wanted to add in Elder Deep-Fiend because it's a late game beater that doesn't require you to go wide and matches up well against Hazoret the Fervent.
2 weeks ago
Thanks for taking a look. I went ahead and updated with the lands I have currently, so the deck is complete now, minus Sideboard.
Having discard outlets early are crucial in setting up Tasigur and cheating Hollow One out for 1 or even 0 mana, which will allow me to sneak out Elder Deep-Fiend or Distended Mindbender for cheap. The Gods are for late game in applying pressure in various ways. This is kind of my route of thinking that I'm looking to have critiqued.
2 weeks ago
Thank you for the quick and very good review Justin_Bop. :)First of all thank you for the good recommendations and all the tiny sideboard tricks and switches. My MTG-FNM-Store has a good amount of affinity, tron and Death's Shadow. So Stony Silence and Card:Ceremonious Rejection are very good cards in my meta. I love your suggestion of Fauna Shaman. Really helps out to tutor the right sideboard card or upgrade Birds of Paradise and Noble Hierarch in late game to more impactful cards. Traverse the Ulvenwald is a nice idea i have to consider it. The only problem is that my kind of deck never hits delirium. So I have to think about another deck with more fancy stuff :D I absolutely love the idea and the value that Matter Reshaper is giving us with Elder Deep-Fiend. Very nice suggestion mate! I will try and make a new deck with that card and a few Thought-Knot Seer to have disruption and input about the enemy. I also liker your Dark Bant decklist. Fancy idea to splash for Fatal Push or cards like Abrupt Decay. I will going to play the deck today evening the first time and I will keep you updated about the result! Shoutout to this: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ldrz-dp-frd/ and this: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/dark-bant-midrange-3/deck ideas. Nice brews and maybe someone can forge a really fancy deck out of these two.
2 weeks ago
Just wanted to pop in and give a couple of my recommendations, as I love what you have made here. Elder Deep-Fiend is a pet card of mine to be honest (if you care to see my brew I'll put it below), so I was naturally inclined to check out your deck.
What you want to include in your sideboard entirely depends on what you expect to face when playing (or just testing) the deck. With Affinity, Grixis Death's Shadow, Eldrazi Tron, Dredge, and Collected Company prominent in the format, many hate cards are available (especially in White) to improve these specific matchups. Rest in Peace works well when facing Dredge and Death's Shadow, Stony Silence hoses Affinity and Lantern Control, land destruction (which Bant colors lack) breaks down Eldrazi Tron. Simple counterspells can help with Collected Company, as well as board wipes like Supreme Verdict. Personally, I would start with 3x Rest in Peace, 2x Stony Silence, 3x Ceremonious Rejection (strong against Tron), 1x Selfless Spirit, 1x Thrun, the Last Troll (for UWx control) and a Vendilion Clique or two. The last couple of slots can be whatever shores up your 50/50 matchups, you'll have to test that one.
Another suggestion I have, and I will certainly be trying this out on my own, is to make the deck a bit more toolbox-y with either Fauna Shaman, Chord of Calling, and/or Traverse the Ulvenwald. Switching up your deck this way gives you access to many of your sideboard hate cards in the mainboard easier (and more consistently gives you Elder Deep-Fiend.
One final idea I have, and this may not be best for this deck as you manabase is already a bit stressed as is, but, I have tested splashing black for Fatal Push in another Bant deck I made (here is the deck). The splash worked amazing to be honest, as in a tempo-ish build, Fatal Push seems better than Path to Exile (or you could play it alongside it). Probably not right for your deck, but could work with testing, who knows.
Finally, adding in some more Eldrazi and making you deck more similar to Bant Eldrazi could help you out here. Matter Reshaper is nearly the perfect Elder Deep-Fiend target, and Thought-Knot Seer is sweet to play against many decks. This is what I've been doing for awhile with the deck, but you may be onto something with Bant. Hope my suggestions helped a bit, keep me updated with your testing or developments with the list, good luck improving the deck!