Ancient Den

Ancient Den

Artifact Land

(This isn't a spell.)

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Ancient Den Discussion

sergiodelrio on Banlist Open Discussion

1 week ago

Hello fellow Planeswalkers. I made this thread so we can discuss the cards currently on the Modern banlist (SEE BOTTOM OF POST) and look if there may be candidates for unbanning, since it has been a while since something moved off the list.

I'm one of those crazy people that wants to live in a world where Mental Misstep and Gitaxian Probe are legal, but I see how that's not realistic whatsoever, so I won't talk about here. Let's have this discussion to be about REALISTIC, reasonable and safe unbannings.

Here are my candidates:

Deathrite Shaman - With all the easy cheap removal and grave hate in the format plus the general push of power level in the recent years, is this really a big deal anymore? Not even sure Jund wants it anymore. Since this doesn't enable a game winning combo or lockout on the spot, I think it deserves a second chance.

Artifact land cycle ala Ancient Den. So, they even injected another 10 artifact lands - are those even being played much competitively? My gut is this was a probe to see if they indeed could unban the old artifact lands. Artifact removal is much more available these days and the old artifact lands don't even come with indestructible sooo...

Rite of Flame - but Sergio! Fast mana is broken. Yes indeed. But they did ban Simian Spirit Guide and hear my out why Rite of Flame is weaker. SSG does not require you to play or a mountain to activate, Rite does and even costs a mana to begin with. SSG has a secondary feature being a creature and can be cast at a reasonable cost of 3 mana. Rite doesn't have that. Since they took Mox Opal and SSG, I think Rite of Flame might deserve a chance as a weaker substitution.

Please tell me what you think about that and/or show me your argumenst for other unbannings that you can see happening.


Ancient Den

Arcum's Astrolabe

Birthing Pod

Blazing Shoal

Bridge from Below

Chrome Mox

Cloudpost

Dark Depths

Deathrite Shaman

Dig Through Time

Dread Return

Eye of Ugin

Faithless Looting

Field of the Dead

Gitaxian Probe

Glimpse of Nature

Golgari Grave-Troll

Great Furnace

Green Sun's Zenith

Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis

Hypergenesis

Krark-Clan Ironworks

Mental Misstep

Mox Opal

Mycosynth Lattice

Mystic Sanctuary

Oko, Thief of Crowns

Once Upon a Time

Ponder

Preordain

Punishing Fire

Rite of Flame

Seat of the Synod

Second Sunrise

Seething Song

Sensei's Divining Top

Simian Spirit Guide

Skullclamp

Splinter Twin

Summer Bloom

Tibalt's Trickery

Treasure Cruise

Tree of Tales

Umezawa's Jitte

Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath

Vault of Whispers

multimedia on Sen triplets

3 months ago

Hey, some changes to consider:

Replicating and Sphere are not really needed here because all the other two drop mana rocks are better/faster. Not a fan of Ingot or Relic either, but at least they're indestructible which has protection from Nevinyrral's Disk .

The Artifact lands are helpful with Transmuter, but they are destroyed by Disk unless you control Forge.

Not enough basic lands or other dual lands that are two different land types that could be in your hand to support the Reveal lands from not ETB tapped. Can't really support the two Tango lands or Check lands either, but at least these dual lands rely on lands that are already on the battlefield not in your hand.

Other cuts could be the Bounce lands that always ETB tapped, the two Tango lands since only have six basic lands or the Scry/Cycling lands since they always ETB tapped.

KBK7101 on Captain Ferrero Rocher

3 months ago

This deck looks pretty good! I love the idea of a better Hero of Precinct One as a commander. The tokens he makes have really nice art, too!

Maybe ditch Agrus Kos, Wojek Veteran for a damage doubler like Dictate of the Twin Gods or something? Feather, the Redeemed doesn't seem to have much support, so I'd suggest replacing her (I think I only counted one or two instants that would trigger her). Nahiri, the Harbinger also seems a bit weak. Maybe another card to be replaced? War Room is another card draw effect on a land. Needleverge Pathway  Flip might be worth a look to replace a basic as well. Same with the white and red artifact lands, Ancient Den and Great Furnace .

multimedia on Wyleth, soul of combat card draw

3 months ago

Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help. Nice deck, you have good card sense with a high budget.

Grand Abolisher and Conqueror's Flail are helpful to protect Wyleth on your turn to safely equip and attack. Puresteel Paladin is repeatable draw with equips as well as can be 0 cost equip. If adding Puresteel than adding a few artifact lands: Ancient Den and Great Furnace helps to activate metalcraft. Imperial Recruiter and Recruiter of the Guard can get Stoneforge or another support creature.

Could replace the Diamonds with Signets: Arcane Signet and Boros Signet since they make either color and ETB untapped. Mox Opal and Mox Amber are more powerful mana rocks for more speed. Aggravated Assault combos with Sword of Feast and Famine for infinite attacks. Bloodforged Battle-Axe and Mask of Memory are good equips especially with double strike.

Spectator Seating is a Boros dual land upgrade. Bloodstained Mire and Windswept Heath are two more Fetch lands. Deflecting Swat and Flawless Maneuver can protect Wyleth for no mana cost. Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast are helpful to counter an opponent's counterspell. Generous Gift and Chaos Warp are removal spell upgrades. Jeska's Will is a powerful ritual.

If interested in any of these suggestions then I offer more advice of cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.

DevoMelvminster on Bounce and Ye Shall Be Healed

5 months ago

Lots of changes in this revision:

Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite is out for Heliod, Sun-Crowned . Heliod will make things bigger and bigger as we gain life, which may help us with a combat win, which is all Elesh norn really did, but also can stack a ton of counters on one creature to sac to Altar of Dementia . Yay mill wins!

Cavalier of Dawn is out for Skyclave Apparition . Apparition was a great suggestion by muddbones and is more abusable than Cavalier. Lowers the cmc curve, and I am not going to miss the possible enchantment recurral. We got that covered.

Odric, Lunarch Marshal is out for Mardu Woe-Reaper . Odric helps with combat wins, but Akroma's Will does it better, and doubles as protection. I hardly ever swing for the win anyways, and the reaper is another cheap creature, and it’s ability will be triggered by ever zombie God-Eternal Oketra makes. Should keep graveyards nice and empty and help against decks that rely on them being filled. Did I mention it gains us LIFE too? Sweet card.

Return to Dust was dropped for Suture Priest . I keep going back and forth with Return... I’ll probably find another spot for it, since I’m a but light on non-creature removal anyways, but for now I wanted more Soul Warden effects. The bonus damage to opponents is nice too.

Austere Command and a Plains were dropped for Ancient Den and Flagstones of Trokair . Den is mostly for turning on Inventors' Fair to tutor out a win, and flagstones synergizes really well with Lotus Field .

Still thinking about adding Test of Endurance or Felidar Sovereign but not sure where. Let me know what y’all think of the changes.

Adversarial on Me Smash You Dead

8 months ago

Thanks for all the suggestions Apollo, no offense taken at all, I'm glad to get feedback.

Truthfully this deck had all but one of your suggested cards in it at one point or another during the crafting phase, and they're all very effective. The thing I was going for though with this deck was a more early-game focused blitz style of deck as opposed to a more balanced and long-haul strategy. Mostly focusing on getting Colossus Hammer onto the cheaper goblins ASAP to try to finish by turn 3/4.

I felt that the Puresteel Paladin wasn't really pulling it's weight until around turn 4 or 5 when the metalcraft really comes online, with the more simple and straightforward approach only needing 1-2 artifacts in play to inflict lethal in the early stages. Thus I felt like he was slowing things down, despite being very powerful. Same story for Sram, Senior Edificer.

The aim here is to go full agro early and less to play into a more safe Boros playstyle. Honestly this deck would be mono-red if it didn't rely so much on Steelshaper's Gift for tutoring the Colossus Hammer early. I get that the deck maybe isn't optimized, and your version would be more consistent, but I've always been a Johnny at heart.

Infiltration Lens may be worth consideration though, since you're definitely right about card-draw being a massive plus in leu of the bigger mana-base that I have currently. So that may help to even speed the deck up more than the Bonesplitters do. The aim with them was to hopefully create a health enough assault team while I wait for the right cards to initiate the desired Hammer combo, but drawing cards would likely expedite this, so I wouldn't have to worry about just dealing some damage in the meantime while I wait for something better.

The problem I had with Kor Duelist was that he frequently lacked trample and could easily be blocked by fodder early, while the Cathar's Shield didn't play well into the full-offensive aesthetic (but maybe I should focus less on what doesn't feel right and more on what works). Something else I had in the vein of 0-drop equipments was Bone Saw, but also felt it lacked punch or any utility without the metalcraft of card draw from Puresteel Paladin and Sram, Senior Edificer.

I'll definitely play around with re-tuning the mana-base and adding in the Infiltration Lenses though, since that would help with speeding things up, as I mentioned.

Another thought I had was something like Faithless Looting, Crash Through or Renegade Tactics in order to get a little bit of card-draw going, while also neutralising blockers. I'll look more into those perhaps.

Adding in 4X Ancient Den and 4X Great Furnace would also make it more likely to trigger Puresteel Paladin's metalcraft as an easy way to equip Colossus Hammer, and opens the deck up to something like Galvanic Blast or Dispatch for some early utility spells that would also have their metalcraft triggered. That was what I was considering for the more-well-rounded and more white-oriented version of the deck, though as I said before; what I'm really trying to do is maximize efficiency and speed rather than play the long-game.

I appreciate the help, really, and I'll look into how I can make the deck better with your suggestions. Thank you.

PalaCannito on White Prison

8 months ago

Land hate is great when going true prison, but it's actually working against me and my general playstyle. Next planned changes:

  1. Remove all fetchland and replace with Snow-Covered Plains (five out, five in)
  2. Remove Strip Mine and Wasteland for an Ancient Den and a Snow-Covered Plains
  3. Remove Armageddon and replace with Akroma's Will
  4. Remove Crucible of Worlds and replace with a Snow-Covered Plains
  5. Remove Archon of Coronation (fun, but too expensive) and replace with a Snow-Covered Plains
  6. Remove Ancient Tomb and replace with Darksteel Citadel

All totaled - netting two lands positive, removing land destruction spells, lowering the curve, and reducing the self-inflicted life loss. Replacing fetches and the removal lands also helps with Land Tax-type effects. Adding the Ancient Den and Darksteel Citadel to keep and bolster the Inventors' Fair without changing much else.

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