(Ancient Den isn't a spell.)
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Ancient Den occurrence in decks from the last year
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Ancient Den Discussion
1 month ago
Wholesale Changes. CMC = 2.41 pre-changes
- Riddlesmith >> Emry, Lurker of the Loch
- Accorder's Shield >> Everflowing Chalice
- Spellbook >> Mishra's Bauble
- Welding Jar >> Altar of the Brood
- Pyrite Spellbomb >> Arcane Signet
- Grinding Station >> Golem's Heart
- Izzet Signet >> Talisman of Creativity
- Azorius Signet >> Talisman of Progress
- Boros Signet >> Talisman of Conviction
- Clock of Omens >> Mystic Forge
- Myriad Landscape >> Rogue's Passage
- Terramorphic Expanse >> Inventors' Fair
- Island >> Ancient Den
- Island >> Darksteel Citadel
- Island >> Seat of the Synod
- Mountain >> Great Furnace
- Ral Zarek >> Ugin, the Ineffable
- Dance of the Manse >> Saheeli, Sublime Artificer
- Gravitic Punch >> Tezzeret the Seeker
- Makeshift Munitions >> Brainstorm
- Sphinx's Revelation >> Swan Song
CMC = 2.46 post changes
1 month ago
I had typed, like, 5000 characters and the site crashed
The short version: This is a collection of midrange creatures with control permanents and sorceries. That's never good. Your cuts will come from committing to one plan or another.
But Cradle of Vitality and Sunbond always go. Come on, son - you have the only playable versions of those effects in your command zone already.
Reservoir aside, if your intent is to kill people manually, why are you playing so much symmetrical mass wipe? And then there's the halfhearted mana destruction line... I'm always here for it, and you should always be ready to remind people you have the cards and could do it, but your average cmc isn't less than 2 and you aren't playing a combo, so why is this package here?
Committing entirely into or out of the control plan is ultimately how you'll cut down to 99.
As things stand, this is most closely built to be played as a midrange deck. You just have so many creatures.
If you want to play this as a control deck, the tools are out there, but you'd ultimately be using enchantments and (as many colored) artifacts as possible to turn on devotion, and then heliod and your planeswalkers (and vehicles) would be able to get around your creature wipes.
Reflecting anyway in its current midrange form:
-treasure map: Your current list lacks the tools or even the curve to support this control tool. This could just be a Wayfarer's Bauble
-Hushbringer: Karlov can't be bothered to dance with it, and he only runs the soul sisters.
-Myriad Landscape is awful. This should be Inventors' Fair anyway. Or at least something should be - you're running too many lands as it is, even with armageddon.
-you're gonna nykthos off of 30 permanents? I think you meant to type Eidolon of Rhetoric
-mikaeus without an army of dice just isn't worth the space
-hedron archive has to tap several times before it's sacrificed for cards in order for it to have been worth the trouble - this shouldn't have made the cut before Commander's Sphere . you can play Cryptic Caves in the land line, too.
-thran dynamo isn't doing anything for you; you'd likely be better off with a gift of estates (and then an orescoes explorer, a boreas charger...) At this point, you could build like you have a Land Tax and go all in: Lotus Field , Lotus Vale , Karoo , Remote Farm ... and then you could justify that crucible of worlds.
you forgot Aven Mindcensor
1 month ago
What's happening on your end; I see quite a bit of changes. How's everything been working out? I have yet to play with the deck, so unfortunately I do not have any thoughts in regards to its performance . I did go to a tournament today but I didn't partake. I watched and had a bunch of practice plays with two other decks I been in the works of.
I seen Dockside Extortionist doing work in a flicker/Cycling theme deck, which surprisingly was a very well constructed deck. That card is just stupid good when blinked. Wondering if you had any chances with it yet?
Or even Forbidden Orchard ? will giving an opponent a 1/1 really be that detrimental? as long as it gets you to go off quicker.
or Possibly even go as far as adding a Spire of Industry ? Hmm, maybe switching out a Swamp and Plains for a Vault of Whispers and Ancient Den adding a Mox Opal ; trying to bring up the artifact count.
Previously you mentioned adding Final Parting as a means of another Buried Alive but then having to find a way to get Goblin Bombardment What about Diabolic Revelation , tutoring one over having to discard? I guess with the outcome, they're both one of the same.
Have you thought about Scheming Symmetry ? Almost another Imperial Seal but then your opponent also get's an advantage. Can maybe work in conjunction with Night's Whisper , Faithless Looting , Ransack the Lab , Street Wraith but so can Mishra's Bauble as well, which has an added benefit of working off a Vampiric Tutor
Of course everything said is just being thrown out there. At this point, I almost feel you've been exhausting all the options so it's almost reached the point of "well how about this even though it's ehh" lol. Such as, for draw at a low CMC you have Burning Inquiry but that in itself is a super gamble.
Anyways, hope you got some game's in!
1 month ago
Nice deck, but I wanted to point out that Ancient Den , Seat of the Synod and Vault of Whispers do not trigger your commanders ability as it only triggers when you cast an artifact or enchantment spell. Lands are not spells (even if they are artifacts). Just curious if you are running these for a different reason not obvious to me?
2 months ago
2 months ago
Inventors' Fair is anothe good land you could use. Also grab an Ancient Den and Darksteel Citadel as well to maximize artifact synergies. Refurbish , Emeria, The Sky Ruin , and Open the Vaults can also let you get things out of your graveyard.
Reya is probably too expensive.
Cut Heavenly Blademaster, you don't have enough creatures to take advantage of her.
Kemba, Kha Regent would be a more appropriate one because she generates tokens as blockers and swarmers if neede.
I'm not huge on Nahiri, the Lithomancer . 5 mana to not really get a lot done but make a 1/1 and equip it once. Similarly, Ajani Goldmane doesn't seem to do a lot in your deck. I think walkers like Ugin, the Ineffable and Elspeth, Sun's Champion might just straight up be better fits. You want to capitalize on that artifact synergy.
If you absolutely need something expensive and threatening, Zetalpa, Primal Dawn or Heliod, God of the Sun are good options with baked-in indestructible.
Land Tax and Smothering Tithe may also be very big includes. The second generates artifacts for anything that needs them as well as makes lots of mana or slows your opponents down considerably. Both are good for you.
Finally, you have some fun infinite mana generation in there but... what does it do? You've got no real payoff for abusing Basalt Monolith. There's no way to chain or bounce things, no aetherflux resrvoir, etc. Maybe instead of Doubling Cube , you run more linear ramp like Sword of the Animist , Explorer's Scope , or Land Tax
3 months ago
If you want to use Unwinding Clock to untap lands, you'll either need to run one or more of the six existing artifact lands ( Ancient Den , Seat of the Synod , Vault of Whispers , Great Furnace , Tree of Tales , and Darksteel Citadel ) or run Mycosynth Lattice , which will add the artifact type to all permanents (including lands).
enpc on Feather EDH
4 months ago
As has been mentioned before, adding more mana rocks will help the deck immensely.
Also, unless you're trying to trigger Metalcraft, cards like Ancient Den are not good. They're just a worse land in that you can destroy them with any artifact removal (like Vandalblast ). Last thing you want is to lose a bunch of lands alongside losing a bunch of mana rocks.