Vault of Whispers
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Vault of Whispers Discussion
3 months ago
wallisface The MH2 lands would indeed be too slow. If I did artifact lands I wouldn't be able to retract multiple times in one turn and pop on turn 4, that'd be a completely different story if Seat of the Synod or Vault of Whispers weren't banned. Displacement Wave is indeed less useful than Retract, I have found that over my 6 years of piloting cheerios and its variants, that having the two Displacement Wave really helps if you cant hit a Retract, it can also help remove tokens or any other low cost threat if I haven't combo'd off yet.
5 months ago
With more than ¾ of your deck consisting of nonbasic lands you'll need enchantment hate to deal with cards such as Back to Basics and Blood Moon. Dockside Extortionist is good but Enchanter's Bane and cards including, but not limited to Pharika's Libation and Scour from Existence will supplement the go around. I hope this helps.
7 months ago
Hey Privian, thanks for commenting. You can definitely reduce the cost of the deck by swapping out the cards you listed. Here are my suggestions for replacements:
Ravages of War is identical to Armageddon, I just happen to have a copy of Ravages I picked up years ago.
7 months ago
Welcome to the game.
At first glance, there are two things that jump out.
1) This is not legal for the Modern format (Dirge of Dread and Vault of Whispers are emboldened in red to indicate they’re illegal in the format). This isn’t a big deal at all, as both can be substituted for different cards quite easily.
2) You could use some dual lands in your mana base. There are a huge variety of Modern legal lands that can produce and , some better (and therefore more expensive) than others. Top tier stuff would be Bloodstained Mire and Blood Crypt, but they’re also the most costly. Middle grade options are things like Blightstep Pathway Flip or Haunted Ridge/Dragonskull Summit, and the cheapest (but still perfectly playable) duals would be lands that enter tapped—Bloodfell Caves, Cinder Barrens etc.
Any of the above would work here, the idea being to be able to play either a black or a red card as soon as possible, without having to wait because you don’t have the appropriate color.
8 months ago
Don't forget, you can also run Vampiric Tutor (for fast mana), Mana Vault, and Jeweled Lotus for more turn 1/2 Braids. It's not the best, but it's the worst when it happens. If you wanted to get really competitive, then you can also run Blood Pet, Lotus Petal, Cabal Ritual, Mox Diamond, Mox Opal, Vault of Whispers, and Chrome Mox. Even Priest of Gix for helping kill everyone faster. The consistency is high enough to get this commander Rule 0'd at most tables if it got unbanned.
8 months ago
Hello fellow Planeswalkers. I made this thread so we can discuss the cards currently on the Modern banlist (SEE BOTTOM OF POST) and look if there may be candidates for unbanning, since it has been a while since something moved off the list.
I'm one of those crazy people that wants to live in a world where Mental Misstep and Gitaxian Probe are legal, but I see how that's not realistic whatsoever, so I won't talk about here. Let's have this discussion to be about REALISTIC, reasonable and safe unbannings.
Here are my candidates:
Deathrite Shaman - With all the easy cheap removal and grave hate in the format plus the general push of power level in the recent years, is this really a big deal anymore? Not even sure Jund wants it anymore. Since this doesn't enable a game winning combo or lockout on the spot, I think it deserves a second chance.
Artifact land cycle ala Ancient Den. So, they even injected another 10 artifact lands - are those even being played much competitively? My gut is this was a probe to see if they indeed could unban the old artifact lands. Artifact removal is much more available these days and the old artifact lands don't even come with indestructible sooo...
Rite of Flame - but Sergio! Fast mana is broken. Yes indeed. But they did ban Simian Spirit Guide and hear my out why Rite of Flame is weaker. SSG does not require you to play or a mountain to activate, Rite does and even costs a mana to begin with. SSG has a secondary feature being a creature and can be cast at a reasonable cost of 3 mana. Rite doesn't have that. Since they took Mox Opal and SSG, I think Rite of Flame might deserve a chance as a weaker substitution.
Please tell me what you think about that and/or show me your argumenst for other unbannings that you can see happening.
9 months ago
Absolutely love the primer that you’ve written for your Inalla deck.
I wanted to mention a couple of all stars that I’ve found when I’ve been playing Inalla; the first is Trinket Mage which is incredibly versatile when you run all three of the artifact lands in the Grixis colours (Seat of the Synod, Vault of Whispers & Great Furnace). Some of the wizards in the deck can be quite tricky to cast with the coloured mana symbols in their costs but with Trinket Mage you can grab a land of the colour that you’re missing along with a Sol Ring. Another Trinket Mage target that I’ve been experimenting with is Skullclamp, as so many wizards only have one toughness they make great targets for the clamp and it’s even better when you’re clamping a token copy of the wizard as well.
The final card I wanted to mention is Twinflame which can be used as a win condition with Dualcaster Mage similar to the Ghostly Flicker combo except that Twinflame gives the token copy haste as well so you don’t need to create a copy using the eminence trigger. The best part about using this combo is that Twinflame is searchable using Spellseeker and with the token copy of Spellseeker you can search for a tutor like Demonic Tutor/Diabolic Tutor that can then find your Dualcaster Mage allowing you to combo quickly if you’re playing against some powerful decks.
10 months ago
Hey, some changes to consider:
- Master Transmuter --> Replicating Ring
- Grand Architect --> Commander's Sphere
- Notion Thief --> Rewind
Replicating and Sphere are not really needed here because all the other two drop mana rocks are better/faster. Not a fan of Ingot or Relic either, but at least they're indestructible which has protection from Nevinyrral's Disk .
The Artifact lands are helpful with Transmuter, but they are destroyed by Disk unless you control Forge.
- Seat of the Synod --> Port Town
- Ancient Den --> Shineshadow Snarl
- Vault of Whispers --> Choked Estuary
Not enough basic lands or other dual lands that are two different land types that could be in your hand to support the Reveal lands from not ETB tapped. Can't really support the two Tango lands or Check lands either, but at least these dual lands rely on lands that are already on the battlefield not in your hand.
Other cuts could be the Bounce lands that always ETB tapped, the two Tango lands since only have six basic lands or the Scry/Cycling lands since they always ETB tapped.