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Hedron Crawler Discussion
1 day ago
I would recomend losing the focus on tap lands and look more at mana rocks/dorks (maybe even some fetches) for color fixing. It will be hard to storm off with only getting one mana a turn. With the Clock of Omens every rock and dork counts as at least 1 and 1/2 mana. Astral Cornucopia and Everflowing Chalice would work well for rocks. For dorks the tried-and-true Hedron Crawler , Silver Myr , Iron Myr , and Plague Myr
For creature you could look at Riddlesmith (to double on draw engine), Artificer's Assistant (to fix drawing and avoid mana flood), and maybe even Mirror Image to copy a creature for a little extra value. ( Mirror of the Forebears would be a better pick over Mirror Image if you have it)
For mana I would do basics over tap lands every day of the week. If you can get cards like Steam Vents that come in untapped more power to you. Mana Severance is a high risk high reward card that would synergize great with storm.
I love the build though, these are just suggestions and ideas. I have over half the decklist in my cart on TCG now! Keep up the good work!!
1 month ago
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, but Timesifter happens to be one of the dumbest cards to run in colorless EDH. Most other decks are going to be doing their best to keep their curves reasonable, but since you have just buckets of colorless mana-producers your curve is going to run very high. If you run Sensei's Divining Top too, you can probably take around 80 percent of the extra turns.
Sculpting Steel is an excellent way to copy whatever your biggest mana-producer is.
I've never liked the tron lands in EDH. My reasoning is mainly that the reward is too difficult to obtain in a singleton, ninety-nine card deck, and that running more non-basics leaves you more open to attack from Back to Basics , Ruination and Wasteland . Many colorless decks already run a lot of non-basics, but you don't want to run more than you have to. I also think you're running a few too many lands, since you're also (ideally) going to be getting a lot of mana from your rocks. I think you should just do a straight trade of the tron lands for other accelerants.
There're also a few other colorless lands to consider. Cryptic Caves , I think, is better than Seraph Sanctuary ; typically you'd only gain one-ish life off the latter, and the ability to cycle Cryptic Caves late game can be very relevant. Ancient Tomb is a BOMB in most decks, especially colorless ones; if you have the ability to acquire it, run it. Thespian's Stage or Vesuva can copy a good land you want more of; Thespian's Stage is especially funny if you run Dark Depths , which also happens to interact favorably with your Mirage Mirror . Also Blast Zone . And Scorched Ruins .
In general, you want to run more two-mana rocks and fewer three-mana rocks. I don't like Pristine Talisman , Seer's Lantern , etc. simply because if you ran two-mana rocks instead, you could land the rock turn two, untap, play a land, and then land a four-mana spell like Thran Dynamo or Hedron Archive . There're enough two-mana rocks you can run in a colorless deck that I think you may find yourself playing a turn behind where you could be, unnecessarily. Some examples: Thought Vessel , Coldsteel Heart , Everflowing Chalice , Fellwar Stone , Grim Monolith (if you're rich) and Hedron Crawler ... I think replacing the aforementioned and other three-mana rocks with some of these is definitely worth trying. If you wanted, Metalworker is probably the best three-mana dork-rock ever made, though he is around $50 these days.
Tamiyo's Journal and Oracle's Vault are good ways to generate card-advantage in colorless decks. Same goes for Staff of Nin , Mind's Eye (which goes well with Victory Chimes , if you want to leave that in) and Karn, Scion of Urza .
My last suggestion's relevance will depend largely upon your moral compass. I have no issue being a grade-A douche in games, since they're just games, and a good person in important matters; you might feel otherwise. Stax, if you're like me, is the way to go with colorless decks that makes them way better, mainly because you have so much more mana than anyone else at the table can make. Consider some or all of the following: Lodestone Golem , Trinisphere , Thorn of Amethyst , Sphere of Resistance , Chalice of the Void (to be cast on X = 1), Winter Orb (especially good with your rocks and if you run something like Clock of Omens ... Relic of Progenitus is good against a lot of decks, and can cycle for a card when it isn't. Grafdigger's Cage is similar. Finally, you may have luck with Tangle Wire , although that can isn't at its best in the modern day.
Right. Good luck!
2 months ago
ok i will admit my perception of what is CEDH is probably a bit wonky.
here are some other fun cards Ghirapur AEther Grid Mishra's Self-Replicator Metalwork Colossus (actually this is pretty good for you...another draw trigger from the grave) Displacement Wave flexible boardwipe/way to recast a bunch of stuff
also Quicksmith Genius is another looter...
Chromatic Sphere remove renegade map or something for it
hell even bad cards like Implements of Sacrifice could just net you a mana
It feels like to me that the ultimate goal is to cast jhoira turn 3 and try to win in the next 2 turns. but you only have 6 mana rocks so whenever i play tested it felt like a good number of times i just played 4 lands and casted jhoira.
4 months ago
If you need help with knowing how much/what ramp to use, you might want to check out https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/brewer-s-minute-ramp-math
I am not an expert in mono, but for you I recommend adding:
Myriad Landscape can go in almost any edh deck
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is solid in any one- or two-colour deck
Lake of the Dead has a downside, but you won't care when you're using it (trust me)
Petrified Field to protect valuable lands.
I'm not sure how I feel about Temple of the False God , but it is an EDH classic.
Other mono ramp
I ended up finding so many mono ramp cards I thought I might as well make a more full list.
Solemn Simulacrum is a good catch-all
Nirkana Revenant is good in the right deck
Bog Witch is kind of weird, but has fringe uses
I haven't thought hard, but you might be able to do some flicker shenanigans with Priest of Gix
Worst case, an edh deck can always load up on rocks. These are some of the best ones for mono black
Sol Ring every edh deck should include this
Pillar of Origins for tribal decks
In most games, these do the same thing: Commander's Sphere , Cryptolith Fragment Flip, Cultivator's Caravan , Darksteel Ingot , Hierophant's Chalice , Honor-Worn Shaku , Mana Prism , Manalith , Orazca Relic , Phyrexian Totem , Powerstone Shard , Pristine Talisman , Seer's Lantern , Serum Powder , Skull of Ramos , Sol Grail , Spectral Searchlight , Vessel of Endless Rest , Victory Chimes , and Chromatic Lantern
Thought Vessel if you fill your hand
Chrome Mox is usually worth the card disadvantage
Mox Amber if you usually have your commander/a legendary thing out
Mox Diamond if lands in your graveyard is a good thing
Mox Opal if you have 2+ extra artifacts
Black Market is good if you tend to sacrifice/kill a lot of creatures
Liliana of the Dark Realms is nice with proliferate, and makes sure you don't miss land drops in the mid/late-game
Sword of the Animist is best with one-mana creatures, and if you attack often, but might be justified even if not
Carnival of Souls is fun with some creature-based combos
Crypt of Agadeem works, but only if you consistently have 4+ creatures in the graveyard
Phyrexian Tower eats your creatures
Cabal Coffers is a staple
Cabal Stronghold is great if you can't afford many nonbasics, and might be good enough besides.
8 months ago
Hi, What about Kher Keep in the mana base ?
Also, i'm running a cheap version of this deck (around 50 dollars) but including more mana dorks (ie Iron Myr Plague Myr Hedron Crawler , Manakin ) what do you think about thoose dorks ? cheap acceleration that synergise with zada, putting more creatures on the board
Also playing impact tremors as a finisher, generating a ton of token, did you tested it too ? Thanks for updates !
11 months ago
+4 Hedron Crawler over your Non-mill cards ;)
11 months ago
These are some of the cards I'm going to take out soon for cards that synergize better with my token strategy. Also I'm taking out some of the mana rocks in favor of more lands. End Hostilities, Obelisk of Naya, Mirrorpool, Healer's Hawk, Wakening Sun's Avatar, Stone Quarry, Seer's Lantern, Hedron Crawler, Gruul Guildgate, Fleetfeather Sandals, Slice in Twain, Siege Wurm, Gruul Signet, Boros Guildgate.
1 year ago
nmiller I mostly have Hedron Crawler in there as a cheap creature that can make me mana and chump block if needed. To be honest, it's the first card I would get rid of and am trying to think of something substantial to take its place.
Hedron Crawler occurrence in decks from the last year
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