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Ondu Inversion Discussion
2 months ago
3 months ago
thanks for all those suggestions Lanzo493 and ya I found out Iona, Shield of Emeria was banned Just after I bought the last card I was missing. Also I'll defiantly put in Ondu Inversion Flip in there and possibly Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite . cvarena21989 sure put some land destruction in there.
3 months ago
In the past few years, there have been a lot of nice new angels. Archangel of Tithes , Lyra Dawnbringer , and Emeria Shepherd are some of them. Smothering Tithe is a fantastic newer card. Generous Gift is a great piece of interaction. Hour of Revelation is a strong boardwipe that we got a few years back. I like Ondu Inversion Flip, too, since it's a land and doesn't take up deckspace if you replace a plains. Akroma's Will can be a great finisher. Urza's Incubator and Herald's Horn are great ramp for an angel tribal deck, if that's what you want to go for. If you're not hung up on angels, I'd say Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite fits the stax theme well.
3 months ago
Swapping Nine Lives with another enchantment is always a challenge for me. Unlike before that we have Role Reversal in standard, you will need to decide when you will cast tricksters. In most cases, I would cast it if I have legal targets that are worthy to swap with. Also, a lot of meta decks right now are using enchantments which are legal targets to swap with Nine Lives using the second chapter of Tricksters. If you're worried about giving the last point of damage for nine lives, you don't need to worry about it because I have many ways to get rid of it without targeting - Cyclone Summoner , Pharika's Libation , Ugin, the Spirit Dragon , Ondu Inversion Flip. Also, I dont really rely on Nine Lives comber per se that's why I have my wish board in different situations. There were times that Ashiok and or Kaya wins games for me without the combo.
ShiltonCDXX: that's a great addition to my wishboard. thanks for pointing me out!
3 months ago
March 2021 update:
-1 Swan Song , -1 Island, -1 Plains
Extra value lands. Swan Song tends to underperform while Drannith Magistrate is absolutely perfect for decks like this.
4 months ago
This is really great list! Please keep updating.
Some of cards I found missing:
Black Eliminate , Grasp of Darkness , Feed the Swarm - oh yes, black can now destroy enchantments! Blue Ravenform - oh yes, blue can now EXILE ceatures or artifacts! White Angelic Edict , Cleansing Nova , Ondu Inversion Flip, Doomskar Green Viridian Shaman , Thrashing Brontodon . Fight effects of Gargos, Vicious Watcher , Territorial Allosaurus , Primal Might , Ram Through Red Shatterskull Smashing Flip and what about enrage effects from Silverclad Ferocidons or damage from Needletooth Raptor or Burning Sun's Avatar ?
6 months ago
6 months ago
Hi Drcfan! I have a few questions/remarks for you :)
- What happened to Gideon of the Trials? He has been tougher and tougher for me to play, the amount of threats being too high in aggro decks at the moment and him only being able to deal only with one per turn and coming at turn 3/4 (and being unprotected by Runed Halo).
- What's your opinion on Skyclave Apparition? Greater devotion than an Oblivion Ring, and they never get the card back, but on a creature which can be worse than an enchant.
- What's your opinion on Linvala over Lyra?
I also believe that you can't fetch Emeria's Call Flip or Ondu Inversion Flip with your Weathered Wayfarer after putting it back inside your deck via Mistveil Plains (or even before), as per the rules from Zendikar Rising, as the front face of these two double-faced cards aren't the land face:
Why you can't tutor Emeria's Call by searching for a land Show
"Most of the rules that govern how transforming double-faced cards apply to the new modal variety. While a modal double-faced card is in your hand, your graveyard, or exile, it has the characteristics of its front face only. So, if you're searching your library for a land card, you can't find a modal double-faced card whose front face isn't a land card. If an effect allows you to cast instant spells from your graveyard, you could cast Valakut Awakening, but you couldn't play Valakut Stoneforge."
But also for your interest:
From the "Zendikar Rising Release Notes" on Wizards' site, Septembre 10, 2020
"If an effect allows you to play a land or cast a spell from among a group of cards, you may play or cast a modal double-faced card with any face that fits the criteria of that effect. For example, if Sejiri Shelter / Sejiri Glacier is in your graveyard and an effect allows you to play lands from your graveyard, you could play Sejiri Glacier. That effect doesn't allow you to cast Sejiri Shelter."
- You could theoretically do a draw once per turn with Secluded Steppe and with your Wayfarer and Mistveil. It's less than Arch of Orazca (which you've told me in the past was too expensive to your taste, and too situational with the ascend mechanic), albeit colored mana and disruptable via destroying the Wayfarer. What do you think?
I love the Settle the Wreckage suggestion, have copied it in my deck! Works very well with the instant speed, with the lands fetched by the opponent and our Wayfarer, it keeps our board, and it exiles which prevents graveyard shenanigans. Only issue over a Wrath of God is having to target our opponent (and the lands given, indeed), but I prefer it this way.
Thank you for your time!