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6 days ago
My typical decks are Muldrotha, the Gravetide recursion, Teysa Karlov aristocrats and a Shorikai, Genesis Engine mechs. Those three usually have big flashy plays for instant wins so this deck definitely plays different. I looked over your whole primer and took your advice to heart to reduce the number of changes and focus only on your new additions and lands. I ran a few games using your methodology for mid-range aggro decks and listed how the deck performed. Let me know if this helps helm the host!
T1 - Fetch to Plains
T5 - I drew 1 off Mangara, the Diplomat. Jhoira had played a Words of Wind forcing us to bounce Pearl Medallion. Yuriko saw our scary board state and hit us with a few unblockables but we still remained above 40 life.
T6 - I drew 1 off Smuggler's Share and 2 off Mangara, the Diplomat. Jhoira started building their boardstate with their commander out and a bunch of rocks. Yuriko had a few creatures out and was chipping away at our life totals.
At this point I could've slow played it further but with 2 draw engines out I felt comfortable in restocking my hand.
T7+ - At this point my memory is foggy, I replayed Giada and a few low cost angels with Vanquisher's Banner which refilled my hand a bit. But Yuriko miracled a Devastation Tide and played an overloaded Damn. Eventually Jhoira got knocked out by Yuriko after trying to rebuild their board state twice. By the end I had whittled Yuriko down to lethal and played Bruna, the Fading Light Meld reanimating Gisela, the Broken Blade Meld from the graveyard but never got to swing with it as Yuriko conceded.
Starting hand was decent but I don't remember much of it since it got wheeled away with a turn 3 Windfall.
T1 - Fetch to Plains + Soul Warden
T3 - Plains + Crucible of Worlds
Lost 5 cards in hand to Windfall and drew a new 5. Jhoira played a Winter Orb and Yuriko played a Null Rod to shut down Jhoira's mana rocks. It also shut down my equipment in hand which was a Sword of the Animist and Mask of Memory. I stopped keeping track of the turns and cards played since the whole game slowed to a crawl. The one saving grace was that I never missed a land drop with the fetch land in the graveyard.
Yuriko kept playing Thieves' Guild Enforcer and changelings to try an alternate mill win strategy. I was hit with a board wipe and Giada was targeted twice. I overloaded Winds of Abandon which left the Jhoira open to be killed. I attempted to cast Emeria Shepherd which would've been perfect with my fetch land and 20+ cards in the graveyard but it was removed after it hit the board. Yuriko played 4 extra turns spells to try and whittle me down from high 30's to 8 but they ran out of answers and were dead on the crackback.
I should've mulliganed this hand as it didn't have a draw spell but I didn't want to hold up the table and the curve looked good.
I was able to build up a decent board state and there were no wipes all game. However, Faldron played a Wand of Wonder and began using my removal spells against my angels. Marneus dropped a Divine Visitation mid-game and started pumping out 4/4 Angels w/ Vigilance which stalled my attacks towards him signifcantly.
Towards the end of the game I was able to tap Starnheim Unleashed for 9 creating 4 Angels with Giada on the board pumping them to double digit beasts. Marneus had the scariest board state but only 4 Angels at the time so I figured I could swing wide and knock them out.
Starting hand was great against these commanders:
T1 - Plains
T2 - Plains + Giada, Font of Hope
T3 - Plains + Smuggler's Share
Mid-game Shorikai played an Organic Extinction doing a one-sided board wipe and started hitting for double digits with vehicles. I tried to rebuild with Emeria Shepherd but she was countered by Aesi. Fortunately, Shorikai ended up scooping to play Warhammer making it a 3-man pod and all our board states were pretty even. I had drawn a card on each of his turns due to their Shorikai ability. Aesi had provided me a couple treasures but wised up and started dropping lands on opponents turns with Burgeoning.
This game lasted quite awhile so there was plenty of back and forth and a lot of answers were used on my board. Both Muldrotha and Aesi had an Unnatural Growth and were staring down each other. I patiently waited until they were both tapped out and had no answers to pull off this sweet combo:
I had Bishop of Wings & Giada, Font of Hope on the battlefield and tons of mana. I cast Bruna, the Fading Light Meld into Emeria Shepherd. Cracked a Myriad Landscape for 2 Plains bringing back Righteous Valkyrie & Gisela, the Broken Blade Meld. Since they had no responses I was able to merge to Brisela, Voice of Nightmares Meld Meld. Due to all the Giada triggers and lifegain I shot up from 20 life to 62.
Aesi was hamstrung due to Brisela's static ability and their creatures weren't big enough to swing into my massive angels. Muldrotha on the other hand attempted to swing in for a massive 59 damage due to Unnatural Growth but I used Teferi's Protection and won the game on my turn.
Starting hand had no draw again but did have lifegain synergies so I decided to keep.
I was only able to get one use out of The Book of Exalted Deeds trigger before Archangel of Thune was blown up and The Scarab God exiled it and copied it for their board. I actually drew a Mutavault and decided to do the combo of putting the Enlightened Counter on it. However when we got to the mid-game I felt like that was the wrong move to do so early.
Late game I had the following:
Seraph Sanctuary & a bunch of other lands
Angel of Vitality w/ 3 +1/+1 counters
Angelic Field Marshal w/ 4 +1/+1 Counters
4x Clue Tokens
Between the Soul Warden, Angel of Vitality and Seraph Sanctuary I was gaining 2 life whenever they cast a creature and 3 whenever I cast an angel. If I'd let the book stay on the battlefield longer I could've had a free 3/3 angel on each of my turns. Instead I cracked clues rather than play out my hand to draw into more answers and win the game. The Enlightened Counter never came into play, but I reminded the table at the end that without any land destruction, I could've gone to negative life and still not lose.
Forgot to take a picture of my hand this game but I kept Smuggler's Share as my draw card which ended up doing nothing. The Faldron player had already played a few games against the Giada deck so purposely missed double land drops to not give me a treasure.
Faldron cast an Etali, Primal Storm turn 6 with no haste enablers so I blew it up my turn. However, Lazav decided to copy it and the board had no answers. Lazav began swinging and got 2 rounds of Etali triggers which was pretty brutal. Since Lazav became archenemy, we teamed up to take him down bringing his life total to 4.
Perhaps the most memorable moment this game was that Faldron had suspended a Wheel of Fate so the whole table was playing out their hands for 4 turns, completely expecting to draw 7. When he went to removing the last suspend counter, Lazav cast Notion Thief so instead of us each drawing 7, he drew 28 cards. Unfortunately for him, he didn't have any way to use those cards to stop the flood of salt from the table and was killed shortly after by a pissed angel.
I was able to clean up the table after a few rounds with this final board state:
Angel of Jubilation - just an anthem and would've shut down my fetches but I played it late game
Linvala, Keeper of Silence - didn't stop anything on my opponent's board because they were all triggered abilities
Starting hand was top heavy but decided to keep:
I figured with 2 ramp equipments and lifegain comboed with the well I'd be setup for mid-game pretty nicely. What I didn't plan for was missing land drops for 2 turns and having Giada blown up twice. By this time, the Aesi/Faldron player had figured out that Giada was consistently winning and decided to put a stop to it.
However, that let Ydris really take the game away. By the end I only had 4 lands, Archangel of Thune equipped with Sword of Hearth and Home and a Pearl Medallion. Aesi died to a single 30+ swing from Ydris leaving myself and Lazav to deal with the massive board state.
I thought I slowed him down by playing Darksteel Mutation on Ydris when he had no cards in hand but he topdecked Sakashima's Protege to copy Ydris and start the pain all over again. With Ydris having lethal on board next turn the only way to stop it would be to top deck the one board-wipe in the deck. But Lazav shot himself in the foot by playing Gyruda, Doom of Depths tossing my top 4 cards into the graveyard. The top card was Winds of Abandon and Lazav whiffed on the Gyruda trigger much to his chagrin.
T1 - Plains
T2 - Plains + Giada, Font of Hope
T3 - Plains + Thorough Investigation
T4 - Plains + Thraben Watcher
On turn 6 I was able to knock out Ghyrson Starn, Kelermorph with the sword setting him back a turn. He responded the next turn by blowing up my sword. After a 2 board wipes Ghyrson was back in a threatening position. I cast Darksteel Mutation on Ghyrson which completely shut down his strategy.
Closed out the game with an overloaded Winds of Abandon and swung lethal at Roon. I was also able to hardcast Sephara, Sky's Blade which would've stopped any board wipe coming from Ghyrson. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx was amazing yet again this game. I was able to tap it for 10 white using 8 to pay for the Winds and God-Pharaoh's Statue tax.
There were some pretty wild swings this game as Jared got all 5 colors turn 4 with some ramp and started dropping Kavu's. He played Knight of New Alara turning them into 8/8 tramplers and started swinging in for 24 damage each turn. Isshin dropped a Tectonic Giant, Fervent Charge & Aurelia, the Warleader to swing in with 21 damage each combat & an additional 6 to the face. With so much damage flying around, the loss life from Eye of Vecna was actually pretty annoying. I used it 4 times during the course of the game when I probably should've played the bigger threats since a board wipe seemed unlikely.
Battle Angels of Tyr was blown up immediately but I was able to drop a Angelic Skirmisher & Righteous Valkyrie mid-game. If I had attacked more early game with Skirmisher out I could've had this one but I made a huge misplay. Jared swung in with everything at me after pumping 2 Kavu's up to 13/13's. As I was only at 46 life, I didn't get the anthem off Righteous Valkyrie so I had to take 26 bringing me down to 20. Isshin swung in everything at Jared knocking them out and on second combat came at me when I was at 8. As Righteous Valkyrie was only a 6/7 blocking into their 7/8's I figured I could survive the turn with one unblocked and just gain the life back next turn. Isshin was tapped out but had 2 treasures that I forgot and used a Boros Charm to get lethal.
Starting hand was ok, no draw engine but great lifegain:
T1 Soul Warden netted me a ton of life over the course of the game as Jared & Isshin did not play any board wipes. After playing Angelic Skirmisher as well and a couple angels, I was developing an oppressive board state.
Tevesh/Arminx drew a lot of hate early game because they played a strong ramp turn with a bunch of expensive mana rocks but then durdled for most of the game. Jared played a Two-Headed Hellkite that they pumped to 10/10 and just started swinging. Isshin tried going wide with Adeline, Resplendent Cathar and a few combat tricks but with Soul Warden on the field I ended up always being net positive after thier attacks.
Eventually the board grew massive and any one of us could've knocked out Tevesh/Arminx as they were wide open. I was sitting comfortably at 60+ life due to Soul Warden and Angelic Skirmisher. Tevesh/Arminx ended up playing Ugin, the Spirit Dragon and wiping all our creatures.
We all rebuilt our boards pretty quickly with Tevesh only having Armix, Filigree Thrasher and a couple equipments. Isshin tried going for the combo and knock out 2 of us with Godo, Bandit Warlord & Helm of the Host but misplayed and couldn't equip Godo.
Jared and I knocked out the Isshin player because of the obvious combo but Tevesh/Arminx equipped their commander with Commander's Plate, Cranial Plating, Skullclamp and swung 17 commander damage at Jared. I blew up their Cranial Plating with a Generous Gift and brought them down to lethal. The game ended next turn like dominoes, Arminx killed Jared and I killed Arminx.
Game 3 loss was due to Marneus just having the better plays here. Even if I were able to prevent some of their bigger combos, they could've won off straight value. Removal and threat assessment by the other 2 were pretty light towards Marneus which definitely helped them win.
Game 7 loss was due to 2 players getting mana screwed. After not being able to curve out with Giada it was almost impossible to come back. Top-decking that Winds of Abandon may have helped but they were so far ahead it's doubtful.
Game 9 was a misplay. Playing against the Isshin deck I should've known that there would be combat tricks but I was used to slow battlecruiser decks and not 2 mid-range aggro decks.
Smuggler's Share has been hit or miss. If I'm playing against blue, I'll typically get the draw, if I'm playing against green, I'll get the treasures. However, if the opponents aren't playing either of those colors and/or play smart, they can often get around it and it's a dead enchantment on board. I'm still leaving it in because when it does work, it works very well.
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx has been great overall. Early game it may not do much but mid to late game it really shines. I usually leave 2 lands and Nykthos up after T5/6 fully expecting a board wipe and using it to activate abilities or crack clues. I'd highly recommend this land over a basic plains.
Crucible of Worlds was a powerhouse in Game 2. Unfortunately I only ever drew it in 1 other game and it was immediately blown up after I used it once. I think it's worth it because if left unchecked provides you tons of ramp and if it draws out a threat then our draw artifacts or equipments live.
Emeria Shepherd is a bomb. 2 games it was instantly blown up because of how big a threat it was. When it was left unanswered, it absolutely carried the game. I think it's a definite swap for Karmic Guide to get that last push end game.
Darksteel Mutation was great the 2 times I used it. I think there's a need for another one-sided board wipe against decks that go wide and have flyers. In game 3 Marneus out angeled the angel deck and we simply didn't have enough token generation to get through.
Folk Hero wasn't mentioned in the gameplay reviews but I did draw and play it a few games. Unfortunately it was played later in the game when I already had other draw engines on board so its impact was minimal. However, it's definitely an improvement over Dawn of Hope as I didn't have to pay mana for the few cards I did draw.
You've mentioned that Avacyn, Angel of Hope deserves a place in this deck and I wholeheartedly agree, mostly because I bought the new borderless version from double masters specifically for this deck. However, her close cousin Sephara, Sky's Blade almost accomplishes the same thing except she only protects creatures. I think the only reason to end up running Avacyn is to lean into the land destruction that she's known for.
6 days ago
The first thing I noticed here is the avg. cmc. of 4.17. That's high for any deck but is particularly high for an aggro deck.
I'll try to suggest some lower cmc stuff and if you're picking up what I'm putting down I can help suggest some cuts. I'll try to keep things budget friendly overall with only a few pricier cards thrown in.
Reconnaissance allows you to attack safely with EVERY creature, deal combat damage in most situations, and have EVERY one of those creatures untapped by the end of combat (ignore the 20+ year old reminder text). This card is triple S tier disgusting.
Devilish Valet doesn't have an attack trigger but he can easily 1 shot a player out of the game. I.e. 6 tokens entering makes him 64 power (I've hit for over 2k with him in Isshin).
Mardu Ascendancy is your best token production here by far. This thing adds up fast.
Ogre Battledriver is an excellent haste enabler here that'll also buff all your tapped and attacking tokens. 3/1 tokens trade up soooooo much better.
Anyways, feel free to check out my list for ideas. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Isshin - Army of Darkness
1 week ago
- Eight-and-a-Half-Tails (Eternal Masters, EMA)
- Yawgmoth's Vile Offering (Dominaria, DOM)
- Boros Charm (Commander Legends, CMR)
- Crackling Doom Khans of Tarkir, KTK)
- Mind's Eye (Brother’s War Retro Artifacts, BRR)
- Plaza of Heroes (Dominaria United, DMU)
I’d recommend adding these cards as soon as your other haul comes in. These are just recommendations for now.
1 week ago
Hey, you left out highlighting or explaining the best infinite combo with Urza you have here. Urza + Myr Battlesphere + Ashnod's Altar = infinite Myrs, infinite colorless mana, infinite copies of all artifacts you control and infinite damage to each player with Breya.
Nice version so far on a semi budget, but build around the Urza + Battlesphere + Altar combo with more protection? Consider more combo protection? Urza + Battlesphere + Altar combo can be activated at instant speed at any time as long as you control all three permanents and have 6 colorless mana available. You're going to want more than 6 colorless mana if you intend to activate the combo though because you'll also want instant protection.
- Spellskite --> Armillary Sphere
- Counterspell --> Burnished Hart
- Boros Charm --> Indomitable Creativity
- Stubborn Denial --> Fateful Handoff
Darksteel Forge and Padeem, Consul of Innovation can protect Altar + Battlesphere, but they can't protect Urza without additional effect to make Urza an artifact. In the combo Urza is also not leaving the battlefield making him much easier to protect.
Assembling combos in Breya is made much easier with Wishclaw Talisman and because it's an artifact it has insane interaction with Breya. You can sac Wishclaw before opponent gains control of it, but still tutor for your card. When you activate Wishclaw it puts the entire effect as one trigger onto the stack. In response sac Wishclaw, putting it into your graveyard, then when you resolve Wishclaw trigger you tutor for your card, but opponent doesn't gain control of Wishclaw because it's no longer on the battlefield. Pair Wishclaw with Goblin Welder, Emry, Lurker of the Loch, Goblin Engineer or any other artifact recursion/reanimation source for a repeatable tutor.
- Wishclaw Talisman --> Cityscape Leveler
- Emry, Lurker of the Loch --> Tezzeret the Schemer
- Goblin Engineer --> Urza, Powerstone Prodigy
Master Transmuter is powerful with high CMC artifacts especially when she can help assemble combos Darksteel Forge and Myr Battlesphere. It's also nice with Breya as a source to create more Thopters for 1 mana or to abuse any other artifact that has an ETB ability.
- Master Transmuter --> Slagstone Refinery
Consider more Pain lands and Artifact lands? They could replace some basic lands to improve color fixing/Breya interaction which can help gameplay. 23 basic lands is a lot in a four color deck.
- Spire of Industry --> 1x Swamp
- Shivan Reef --> 1x Mountain
- Adarkar Wastes --> 1x Plains
- Caves of Koilos --> 1x Swamp
- Battlefield Forge --> 1x Plains
- Sulfurous Springs --> 1x Mountain
- Ancient Den --> 1x Plains
- Vault of Whispers --> 1x Swamp
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
Love this! Have you considered Garruk's Uprising and Ferocity of the Wilds for helping with card draw and chump blockers? Boros Charm is always a nice thing to have in hand to deal with board wipes. Rhythm of the Wild, because speed and nobody likes having their biggies countered lol. Fellwar Stone, Shadow in the Warp, and Chromatic Lantern are good for expensive decks (though you know I'm a sucker for the lantern lol). What do you think about Ganax, Astral Hunter, Thunderbreak Regent and Korlessa, Scale Singer? A lot of recommendations, sorry lol
3 weeks ago
This is a nice start, but I feel like 2 VERY important categories are underrepresented here. Card draw and board protection.
Card Draw: Plumb the Forbidden is amazing here thanks to being an instant. Twilight Prophet, Welcoming Vampire, Skullclamp, Dark Prophecy (lots of lifegain needed for this one), Smuggler's Share, and Necropotence are all excellent options here.
Board Protection: Teferi's Protection, Flawless Maneuver, Boros Charm, And They Shall Know No Fear, and a little hidden gem known as Scapegoat. Scapegoat also doubles as a finisher with Purphoros out.
Finishers: Purphoros, God of the Forge will dome each opponent for 4 whenever you cast a vamp. Reconnaissance feels like cheating and allows you to be hyper aggressive safely. 2nd post below dedicated entirely to this card... which is just Copied/Pasted from my deck description.
Feel free to check out my list for more ideas. It's one of the top rated Edgar lists on this site and has a buttload of posts to sift through for more insight and inspiration. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Edgar's Dega Vampires
4 weeks ago
Not a bad start but I do have several suggestions for you. I'll try to keep things budget-ish friendly and break things down by category. If you're picking up what I'm putting down, I can help suggest cuts.
Finishers: Shared Animosity, Akroma's Will, and Reconnaissance (see my deck description for a recap on Reconnaissance, the card feels like cheating here it's so good) are all worth running. Purphoros, God of the Forge is amazing here. Each vamp you cast domes all opponents for 4 and provides the deck with some much needed non-combat finishing.
Board Protection: Boros Charm is worth it for the all permanents protection. Scapegoat is a neat hidden gem that let's you pseudo dodge exile, -X-X, etc. type boardwipes and if you run Purphoros, it can double as a finisher.
Ramps: Arcane Signet, Talisman of Indulgence, Talisman of Hierarchy, and Talisman of Conviction are all worth running. If you get your cmc below 3 (which I highly suggest), I'd recommend dropping the Boros colored signet/talisman though.
Feel free to check out my list for inspiration (and that explanation for Reconnaissance if you aren't familiar with the intricacies of the card). Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Edgar's Dega Vampires
1 month ago
I love this deck... my brother runs a jeskai variant and something he uses is Boros Charm to great effect.