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Field of Ruin
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, , Sacrifice Field of Ruin: Destroy target nonbasic land an opponent controls. Each player searches his or her library for a basic land card, puts it onto the battlefield, then shuffles his or her library.
Field of Ruin Discussion
2 days ago
I would say it depends on your budget after the fact.
If budget isn't an issue, go nuts. Get really good dual lands like shocklands, get some filter lands, make sure you have the signets and the talismans. My biggest suggestion is Mana Confluence or City of Brass . It's really easy to replace the life lost from those using life gaining creatures. Also, you probably want to run some lands like Strip Mine or Field of Ruin .
If budget is an issue, I'd suggest guildgates and other cheap dual lands.
4 days ago
So with Crucible or Excavator, you'd want to discard lands because you'd know you could cast them from the graveyard. So you'd be able to keep spells you need in your hand. Additionally, both really hose stuff like Ghost Quarter , Field of Ruin , and Beast Within against your Mazes. So even it not mainboarded, 1x of one of them might be good in your sideboard.
The only downside I can see to Reliquary Tower is the slot(s) it takes up in your mana-base and the land-drop you have to make that isn't a Gate. All in all, seems pretty great.
I'd say move the Lantern to the Sideboard or cut it and add to your sideboard Prismatic Omen or some sort of Enchantment/Artifact removal - Disenchant or Revoke Existence or Erase or Oblivion Ring or Return to Nature or Back to Nature or Felidar Cub if you're afraid you won't have white mana available.
4 days ago
It would be good to remove Temple of the False God , thats not a very good card for your opening hand, its pretty much only good once you already have plenty of mana, and in an Orzhov sacrifice deck you'll want cheap creatures that may or may not even use colorless mana to summon. Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse are similarly not good for much, you dont have a very big mana fixing issue to put up with in a two color deck so I'd replace those with some basics or some two color lands if your budget allows for some of the better ones. Field of Ruin , Ghost Quarter , and Tectonic Edge are also some cards to consider to help you deal with problem lands. The lack of a need to fix your mana would also lead me to replace Armillary Sphere , Journeyer's Kite , and Wayfarer's Bauble with some actual artifact ramp. Fellwar Stone , Mind Stone , and Commander's Sphere would be great for you. Now that mana is out of the way, Lets talk sacrificing; How are you going to do it and why? As for how, Right now your only way to sac creatures is your commander. that will make it hard to do if your commander gets taken, killed, or otherwise stuck in the command zone. you also want a little more variety as to the effects you get from sacrificing critters. Bloodsoaked Altar just came out with 2020 and it can very quickly make an army of demons out of low cost creatures or even spirit tokens. Ashnod's Altar and Phyrexian Altar also just fill up your mana pool for sacrificing creatures, which will help you cast even more spells. Of course, Yahenni, Undying Partisan can sacrifice creatures like there's no tomorrow and make for a very effective blocker. As for why you would want to sac a creature, you hit that pretty well with Grave Pact and Butcher of Malakir , you can force death triggers to proc for doing something that was already benefiting you. Pawn of Ulamog is a really nice death trigger and so is Black Market , and both of those will net you some serious mana if you let them. The best way I've found is to find cards with "when a creature dies" in the rules text, and there's too many of them for me to list here so I'll direct you to Scryfall.com to find more. Victimize is just one of many ways for sacrificing creatures to help your cause because it lets you get creatures back from the graveyard, and graveyard recursion is something I'd put a lot of thought into here. Eternal Taskmaster is pretty okay with it, and any effect that puts the card into your hand rather than onto the battlefield will dodge Graveyard hate like Ashes of the Abhorrent and Rest in Peace . Phyrexian Delver , Phyrexian Reclamation , Exhume , Animate Dead , and Reanimate are all very good ways to "recycle" your creatures. And of course, as long as you're putting graveyard recursion into your deck, cards like Final Parting , Entomb and Buried Alive are all much better tutors than they otherwise would be. On the whole, if you need to swap cards for new ones, start by cutting the cards in your deck that are CMC 4 or more. Cheap creatures hurt a lot less to sacrifice, and they make Heartless Summoning a much better card. any creatures with Enter the Battlefield effects would be my go to cards to sac and recur.
5 days ago
Maybe something like this (which I'd love to try out if I could afford it)? You'll note that I've dropped Vengevine entirely, as I don't think getting the trigger is going to happen that often without Gravecrawler around, and added Creeping Chill plus Raven's Crime . I can see this doing some serious work with Wrenn and Six , especially if you can get Dakmor Salvage involved...
3x Blood Crypt
1 week ago
Thank you for all the comments: Re: Ramping w/ enchantments, would it not just make the enchantments or the enchanted lands a target for removal? And what would I do to cover the hole in the defence left by having fewer creatures to defend with, since ramping without creatures removes the option to block and therefore i can get needled down a lot easier. I definitely agree with liking the flexibility of the hydra cards and think it is one of the main strengths of the deck. If less mana is required than previously estimated wouldn't that add to the case of using things like Arbor Elf , as this sacrifices some mana ramp reliability as you pointed out for some defence?
I see your point with Asceticism , as the 5CMC rules it out for a decent amount of the game anyway. I'll straight up just switch those round.
I see the point here more with Doubling Season , but solidarity of heroes has in playtests I've found come to the rescue a lot to accelerate a turn and is also very flexible in terms of number of targets so can just overwhelm removal. I do see your point with valuable real estate (i always struggle to keep my decks to 60, see my other half finished attempt at a deck), I'm just not sure Solidarity of Heroes is the card to drop, can definitely see that Doubling Season more serves to make a winning situation a winning harder situation.
I see that Garruks doesn't have perfect synergy with this deck, but have found him a very useful addition on many occassions with his wide array of abilities providing a good way to do several things from only 1 card slot.
I like the look of Gargos, Vicious Watcher and obviously a free 4 tokens on all my hydras, especially Hydra Broodmaster is a very attractive prospect. I'm a little worried that due to the the very high CMC, that it would only provide more winning in a situation of winning already. What creature spell would be worth cutting for it? I think with Rosheen Meanderer should have enough mana base that can be spent on anything green not to need the special effects of the additional 4 but that can only be spent on 'x'.
I'm not sure core set 19 and 20 were out when I first put the deck together, which is why I was interested on whether it needed updating. I like that Hungering Hydra has a nice low CMC, shame it's a bit harder to get it to scale than the likes of Primordial Hydra , but I could definitely get behind adding this. Protean Hydra was in a very early draft of this deck, the problem in my eyes is that it wouldn't really scale, nobody would go for attacking it unless they think they will kill it. It didn't seem like a bad card, so much as less good than some of the others.
I'm not too sure on Hydroid Krasis for the reasons you pointed out, but will have a think on whether can afford to add the splash, should be doable. What about one of the dual lands for enabling this?
I agree the mana base probably is the area with the most room for improvement and I do really like the look of that card for it's flexibility of being mana or pump. I think i'll put some Oran-Rief, the Vastwood in in place of Forest
Would you suggest leaving other Garruk in, and just removing G,CoB for Harmonize? So just the 2?
Again, I like both Fog and Revive, but not sure what I'd cut for them?
Scavenger Grounds I guess could work against decks that like to cheat things in to play. So far I've just been overwhelming them with the time it takes to do and just bring out something big to kill them off with, at the cost of tapping for specifically green mana. Seems much the same for Field of Ruin but for a fairly niche situation. Maybe these woyuld be better suited to the sideboard?
Nissa, Who Shakes the World goes really nice with this deck and allows you to make even more powerful hydras even quicker, but i don't feel like she patches any weaknesses in the deck, so much as just makes the strengths stronger. Would be interested to know other people's thoughts on this though?
Unbound Flourishing I really like and think the synergy with this deck is too good not to have for a 3CMC card - what do you reckon should be cut for it? Solidarity of Heroes ? as it does a very similiar job. I like Voracious Hydra for it's flexibility but it does only provide the 1 point of scaling and for much the same CMC you can have hydras that keep scaling ad infinitum. Gargos, Vicious Watcher we touched on before, and I really like the card, aside from the slight reservation that it might just make a winning game won harder and come in too late, it look really good for this deck - just not too sure what to cut for it?
Thanks for all the comments guys, they are really helpful - I'll make that first set of revisions and add your names to the list of acknowledgements.
Another thing I was wondering: Do I have the right number of creatures? And do i have the right number of lands? and what can I do to improve my land base, as I feel this is probably the area where improvements can be made without having to take anything away from the deck
2 weeks ago
Grateful Apparition , Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit , Mausoleum Wanderer , Metallic Mimic , Supreme Phantom - it's essential to have a solid 1CMC creature to play T1, and good too keep all but the most essential spells to 2CMC or less.
Glacial Fortress / Temple of Enlightenment would both be helpful if you can afford them. Other potentially useful lands: Cavern of Souls , Unclaimed Territory , Scavenger Grounds , Field of Ruin , Ghost Quarter
Swap Vapor Snag in for Unsummon.
Deny Existence keeps too much of your mana reserved. I suggest more dynamic means of dealing with threats instead of reactionary counter-spells. Permanents are easy to deal with - Journey to Nowhere , Oblivion Ring , Path to Exile , Cast Out , Blessed Alliance , Celestial Flare , Pongify , Generous Gift , Reprobation , Imprisoned in the Moon , Oppressive Rays . There are, of course other spells - these are just possibilities off the top of my head.
Sideboard ideas: Declaration of Naught , Nevermore , Hurkyl's Recall , Revoke Existence , Disenchant , Teyo, the Shieldmage , Leyline of Sanctity , Shalai, Voice of Plenty , Witchbane Orb , Sanctimony , Ratchet Bomb , Elixir of Immortality , Pithing Needle
2 weeks ago
Glad to help. Some sideboard suggestions you might consider adding to your next order: Disenchant , Revoke Existence , Nevermore , Oblivion Ring , Blessed Alliance , Pithing Needle , Ratchet Bomb , Elixir of Immortality , Teyo, the Shieldmage , Sanctimony , Scavenger Grounds , Ghost Quarter , Field of Ruin .
Also, I can't believe I forgot to mention Angelic Accord !
2 weeks ago
Can I try to sell you some theory for why Elvish Reclaimer could be really good in Jund? I'm convinced the card has potential, and that Jund is the right place to play it.
If you play it turn 1, then you can tutor Bojuka Bog turn 2. And then another one turn 3 if you need it. That should do something vs Hogaak and Phoenix.
If your UW Control opponent plays Baby Teferi turn 3, then you can tutor Treetop Village and kill their Teferi no matter what they do. In general, tutoring a manland can increase your pressure, which is good vs UW and Tron.
If you have Wrenn and Six, you can find your Nurturing Peatland to get the engine going.
Against Humans, a 3/4 is actually big enough to matter in combat in the early turns. Especially because it can block as a 3/4 on turn 2, just like a Goyf. It's admittedly less good vs Humans than other matchups, but Humans should be a decent matchup regardless.
I think the card is great, but I also haven't played with it yet, and I don't know what you would take out to include it.
Field of Ruin occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.3%
All decks: 0.62%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.04%