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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Penny Dreadful | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Ghostly Prison
Enchantment
Creatures can't attack you unless their controller pays for each creature they control that's attacking you.
DreadKhan on
Zur the enchanter $100 budget
2 weeks ago
Cool idea with good execution!
Not sure if you are 100% satisfied with your mana base, some stuff like Esper Panorama, Darkwater Catacombs, Skycloud Expanse, and Ash Barrens can help fix your mana, I always find Zur is a hassle to get out without stretching the budget. There are also somewhat worse options like Obscura Storefront, it's worse than Arcane Sanctum but not by a ton. I recently found out about Planar Atlas, but this looks like exactly what Zur needs to get out faster, but I do run Signets and Signet Lands, so I have more use for colourless arguably. If you're using a Sun Titan, any lands that fetch something before going to the Graveyard become pretty strong in my experience, but Myriad Landscape is hilarious if you can recur it.
Not sure if it's outside your budget, but Mirrormade is the cheapest Copy Enchantment I know of that Zur can fetch, and it can also copy an artifact, so if there is a ramp rock out Zur can find mana. Another way Zur can ramp you is The Restoration of Eiganjo  Flip, which also turns into a creature. Dance of Many is a pretty interesting option if someone has a really big body out against you, not sure if you face many Blightsteels.
If you like to run Rule of Law effects in Zur, you might enjoy using a little Moderation to fuel you, it's a nice cheap card. If you can draw enough cards, Stronghold Machinist and/or Stronghold Biologist are pretty interesting cards. Obviously better with Necropotence though.
If you have Vanishing on Zur, you can fetch Out of Time to wipe the board in a shockingly thorough manner, if the board is full nothing is coming back. Obviously better if you can copy it before it goes away, but Copy Enchantment and Estrid's Invocation are both pretty pricey, and there are few things as good as copying All That Glitters. Another weird thing you could do is combine Spy Kit with Cornered Market, nobody can play creatures, if you have Zur out then you should be set.
If Propaganda or Ghostly Prison are too pricey, War Tax can be an interesting alternative, it's especially useful in a Rule of Law deck where you can't play multiple Sorcery speed spells, this lets you use spare mana to hassle whomever you want, it's non-targeted and scales with the game.
I always wonder if non-cEDH Zur decks should consider running Honden of Seeing Winds and Sanctum of Calm Waters to draw cards, Zur can find you a few other Shrines if you ever draw into a Draw engine, none better than Sanctum of Stone Fangs. I guess you'd have to decide how much work 2-3 cards per turn is worth, at least once it's set up it doesn't use more resources.
Tur on Hidden Power - Crop Rotation
1 month ago
Thank you for noticing my intention, that is the key point of this argument!! Newer and casual players tend to disregard or ignore Crop Rotation, because they only see it for very expensive cards such as: Gaea's Cradle, Mishra's Workshop, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Serra's Sanctum, Bazaar of Baghdad, and Diamond Valley. (I.e. sacrifice a Forest and get Gaea's Cradle.)
In fact, I own all of these cards and in only one single case is Gaea's Cradle the first priority for Crop Rotation. Here are a few examples using commander decks: (These do not include utility lands, such as Bojuka Bog, Cavern of Souls, nor Homeward Path.)
Commander: Lord Windgrace
- First Priority: Lotus Field / Lotus Vale / Scorched Ruins
- Second Priority: Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth / Cabal Coffers
- Third Priority: Field of the Dead
- Fourth Priority: Thespian's Stage / Vesuva
- Fifth Priority: Bazaar of Baghdad
- Sixth Priority: Glacial Chasm
Lotus Field is great for ramping with Lord Windgrace minus three ability. Cabal Coffers is fantastic for ramp. Field of the Dead provides a win condition and blockers.
Commander: Mina and Denn, Wildborn
- First Priority: Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
- Second Priority: Thespian's Stage / Vesuva
- Third Priority: Field of the Dead
- Fourth Priority: Gaea's Cradle
Because of Fiery Emancipation, Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle became ridiculously overpowered. Nine damage every time a mountain enters the battlefield. Furthermore, the Scapeshift combo causes you to win the game.
Commander: The Gitrog Monster
- First Priority: Dakmor Salvage
- Second Priority: Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth / Cabal Coffers
- Third Priority: Field of the Dead
Dakmor Salvage is the combo engine for The Gitrog Monster. Therefore searching for it, the sacrificing it to The Gitrog Monster is crucial for the deck.
Commander: Gargos, Vicious Watcher
- First Priority: Hall of the Bandit Lord
- Second Priority: Reliquary Tower
- Third Priority: Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
- Fourth Priority: Temple of the False God / Ancient Tomb
- Fifth Priority: Diamond Valley
Hall of the Bandit Lord provides haste to the hydra tribal. Reliquary Tower is necessary for cards such as Soul's Majesty and Greater Good. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is pretty nice with the triple green devotion from Gargos, Vicious Watcher.
Commander: Carth the Lion
- First Priority: Field of the Dead
- Second Priority: Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth / Cabal Coffers
- Third Priority: Volrath's Stronghold
- Fourth Priority: Karn's Bastion
Field of the Dead is way too good in Carth the Lion, because Garruk, Cursed Huntsman emblems immediately with Carth the Lion. Making at least one 5/5 zombie with trample every turn is very strong.
Commander: Maelstrom Wanderer
- First Priority: Sanctum of Eternity
- Second Priority: High Market
- Third Priority: Command Beacon
Sanctum of Eternity allows you to put Maelstrom Wanderer back into your hand, allowing for the on-cast trigger to happen again. High Market not only taps for mana, but allows you to send Maelstrom Wanderer back to the command zone.
Commander: Sythis, Harvest's Hand
- First Priority: Serra's Sanctum
- Second Priority: Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
- Third Priority: Field of the Dead
- Fourth Priority: Hall of Heliod's Generosity / Gaea's Cradle
Unfortunately, for this deck Serra's Sanctum is the best target for Crop Rotation, however Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is a close second best target. With Sythis, Harvest's Hand you have to commit heavily to the board, so your devotion is going to be high. Field of the Dead gives blockers before you can stabilize with Sphere of Safety, Solitary Confinement, and Ghostly Prison.
Commander: Marwyn, the Nurturer
- First Priority: Gaea's Cradle
- Second Priority: Wirewood Lodge
- Third Priority: Deserted Temple
- Fourth Priority: Yavimaya Hollow
- Fifth Priority: Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
- Sixth Priority: Ancient Tomb
Unfortunately, for this deck Gaea's Cradle is the best target for Crop Rotation, however Wirewood Lodge is a close second best target for untapping Marwyn, the Nurturer. In fact, I found myself frequently choosing Wirewood Lodge over Gaea's Cradle because it does not draw as much threat for Strip Mine effects. Wizards of the Coast is frightfully aware of this fact and has made many cards to compensate by using creatures and enchantments: Priest of Titania, Itlimoc, Cradle of the Sun, Elvish Archdruid, and Circle of Dreams Druid.
Hope this helps clarify my stance!
Last_Laugh on
Athreos White Black Undying Evil
1 month ago
Grasp of Fate is a solid piece of removal in these colors. Serra Paragon and Luminous Broodmoth are 2 newer cards that're powerful and fit the theme. Also, I'm loving all the old cards, have you tried any pillowfort elements like Ghostly Prison/Koskun Falls?
multimedia on
Strefan and his vampires
1 month ago
Hey, Creeping Bloodsucker is a new Vamp in the latest set Jumpstart 2022. It's a two drop repeatable no mana cost source of Blood with Strefan.
Braids, Arisen Nightmare is another newish card who's very good in multiplayer Commander for repeatable draw. Draw a card for each opponent who didn't sac, that helps to keep your hand full of Vamps to cheat onto the battlefield with Strefan. It too can be a repeatable no mana cost source of Blood by sacing a Blood token or Vamp. You can stack the beginning of end step triggers to resolve Braids first and then Strefan, that way you create Blood for each opponent who lose 2 life from Braids.
In Rakdos when your Commander has flying and you want to attacking with it then Azra Oddsmaker and Mask of Memory are good repeatable draw sources. No mana cost repeatable draw like this can really help to have Vamps in your hand to cheat with Stefan.
Chaos Warp and Feed the Swarm are important removal in Rakdos because they can remove an enchantment. I'm also a fan of Reverberate in Rakdos since it can copy an opponent's instant or sorcery which could be removal. Enchantments that restrict you from attacking can slow you to a halt or wreck you if you don't have some way to remove it. Stefan cheating a Vamp onto the battlefield from your hand tapped and attacking does get around Ghostly Prison effect, but that's only one Vamp on your turn and you'll have to pay mana to attack with Stefan.
Good luck with your deck.
LeonSpires on
Fun Wall it Lasts
1 month ago
Looks like a fun list. Here are a few suggestions.
I would consider cutting Fog Bank as it can't deal damage due to it's ability. I also think Charix, the Raging Isle doesn't belong here. Arcades only makes creatures with defender able to deal damage equal to their toughness. Charix doesn't have defender.
Because of Arcades ability to draw cards I think you will be disappointed by Ensnaring Bridge. I would also cut Commander's Sphere, Cultivate, and Kodama's Reach for a full set of Bant talismen or signets. Ghostly Prison seems unneeded as running a lot of low CMC walls tends to dissuade early attacks.
Finally I am unsure why you are running the original duals. I feel like you could slot them into a more competitive deck and get away with running basic lands instead. In the same vein I would up the land count. 30 lands is more for cEDH decks that have lower average CMC and run very low CMC ramp.
I hope this helps. Good luck!
Simerix on
CURSE UPON YOUR HOUSES
3 months ago
Interesting list! It seems like you are trying to go somewhat voltron which I find odd.
Here's some cards I found kinda weird: Grafted Wargear, Cement Shoes, Vorpal Sword, Whispersilk Cloak, Goldmire Bridge, Phyresis
I don't think Magnetic Theft is needed.
Run Agent of Erebos over Curse of Oblivion
I'd suggest Brilliant Restoration over Tiana, Ship's Caretaker. My problem with Tiana is that she has to be out when your stuff is destroyed. Brilliant Restoration get everything and is a great top deck.
Cards I'd consider adding: Blind Obedience, Court of Ambition, Court of Grace, Crawlspace, Curse of Conformity, Curse of Disturbance, Curse of Fool's Wisdom, Curse of Opulence, Curse of Silence, Curse of the Nightly Hunt, Ghostly Prison, Mesa Enchantress, Monologue Tax, Torment of Scarabs, Trespasser's Curse
legendofa on
3 months ago
Without any other infect or proliferate effects, Blighted Agent needs to be actively attacking for several turns, depending on how many pump effects you have out. By itself, it needs to stay active for ten turns, which is an eternity at even semi-competitive tables. It just doesn't have the support to be viable here, and being used as removal bait means that virtually any other creature could take its spot. This also leaves out mass removal, fog effects, attack taxes like Ghostly Prison, and anything else that would prevent it from doing its job.
I think the mill subtheme can be cut. Soaring Thought-Thief is fine, but Bruvac the Grandiloquent and Tasha's Hideous Laughter don't help that much. Also, mill is especially difficult against three other decks, and there's a reasonable chance one of them will be a graveyard deck that welcomes the help.
Elves in general have more support as a tribe, but I wouldn't suggest switching unless you genuinely think you would enjoy Elves more. If you do, I suggest Golgari.
Necramus on
Queza, the Queefer
4 months ago
Okay. So, I think you should really lean into the control/combo shell. This deck could use combos like Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood, with some added redundancy in the forms of Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose and Marauding Blight-Priest, or Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion to close out the game. In order to accomplish this, I think you should cut a ton of the creatures and really lean into board wipes, control spells, and resource denial.
Things like:
You could also do cute stuff like Phyrexian Unlife + Solemnity, giving yourself time to wipe the board again or go for the win with Peer into the Abyss. You should also consider taking a look at your mana base.
I'd suggest going for some fetches, checks, and shocks like:
You also have way too many plains right now. Even before you get the lands I just named, you should cut 6 Plains for 4 Swamp and 2 Island.
I know I've given you a lot of suggestions. I think if you tried putting a list together with all the cards I named, plus some of the bangers from your current list and you'd have a badass deck! Don't worry about trying to do all that right now, though. See which look most appealing/are in your price range and add those first. A lot of these should be long term goals!
Don't tell Rett I gave you so many suggestions XD
-Blake
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