Combos Browse all Suggest
- Alela, Artful Provocateur + Ornithopter + Scrap Trawler
- Blood Artist + Ornithopter + Scrap Trawler
- Aetherflux Reservoir + Ornithopter + Scrap Trawler
- Ornithopter + Scrap Trawler + Viscera Seer
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
- What happens when Yahenni's Expertise is cast with Scrap Trawlerin play?
- Question with Walking Ballista that came up at the Prerelease
- Scrap Trawler and failing to find
- If I have a Scrap Trawler in play, a Walking Ballista on the graveyard, and I sack a Expedition Map, would Walking Ballista return to my hand?
- Scrap Trawler, Pia's Revolution and artifact board wipes
Artifact Creature — Construct
Whenever Scrap Trawler or another artifact you control is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, return to your hand target artifact card in your graveyard with lesser converted mana cost/mana value.
2 weeks ago
I have considered both actually! My DOM sheoldred deck actually uses Imp's Mischief.
The combo is Krark-Clan Ironworks, Scrap Trawler, and Myr Retriever on the field, sac Myr Retriever to it with Sol Ring and Junk Diver in graveyard. Theres a lot to how the combo actually works but it goes infinite with the Imotekh the Stormlord, Blood Artist, and Zulaport Cutthroat. Its not even close to the only combo, the "Station" cards go infite a lot as well.
1 month ago
Nimblewright Schematic gives you value, and you can go infinite with a few other cards; Servo Schematic works the same way. Sai, Master Thopterist also works well in this regard. Freed from the Real and Pemmin's Aura allow you to repeat Arcum.
3 months ago
Just some quick notes!
I'd also comment that Distortion Strike, when well placed could really sink a game for one, if not two players.
If you haven't considered Eldrazi Mimic, that'd be a really nasty card to pair up with your line up.
For retrieval, Scrap Trawler could really do you a favor if artifact retrieval is important for you.
12-Post has been a favorite concept of mine for awhile and I always see mono green Tron as my rival. I think Blue-Post is a pretty cool concept!
Hope the feedback helps!
4 months ago
4 months ago
4 months ago
Myr retriever has several other options if you're looking to combo - Semblance Anvil+sac outlet, Scrap Trawler/Workshop Assistant as alternative options, or even backup combos that generate gravestorm (flavours of persist/undying).
I've found the combos taken as a group to be reliable because they all share pieces - the battle is packing protection for the graveyard itself and surviving to cast it. Going into black/green and playing a lot of thoughtsieze seems like it has a good chance of that, especially with a grindy backup plan.
In theory playing Painter's Servant and Spellskite for free could set up something big, but I haven't found a way to make that really tick over. I've also thought about creatures with 1 toughness and a death trigger to try and get to high gravestorm - fecundity+heartless and Hangarback/myr sire is a draw two. Still fragile though. Best of luck with the brewing - I hope you figure this one out.
6 months ago
I'm getting a lot of "I get locked out playing my favorite deck so I wanna lock out players too"-vibes. The one difference between Iona and all other problematic cards you named, is that Iona can be your commander, making sure you still have access to it after Oblivion Stone etc. That's where it differs from Leyline of the Void which, yes, can be in play from turn 0, but there's going to be a lot of games where it won't, and it probably won't return after the O-stone.
Iona's also a creature, making sure cards like Ephemerate will customize the color chosen to whatever you need whenever you need it, protecting it from removal in the process.
If you want to lock people out of casting spells, there's still plenty of ways to do it, but it's by combining cards together, not 1 card that does the entire thing for you. With Palinchron you need a mana doubler, with Heartless Hidetsugu you need a damage doubler and a way not to die, with Lavinia, Azorius Renegade you need Knowledge Pool, with Decree of Silence you need Solemnity.
With Iona, Shield of Emeria you need nothing. With Paradox Engine you basically need anything, it's not restrictive enough in its synergies to not be overpowered, while leading to 20 minute turns where one player gets to play all the magic while the others get to watch.
If you're scared of Mindbreak Trap, just play Rule of Law. If your deck doesn't function because of a single card in play, it's badly built. You could still go Sol Ring into Thran Dynamo for Wurmcoil Engine t3 and kill the leyline player. That also stops it from being a problem. Those are all cards that would be amazing in a Daretti deck and doesn't need to break the color pie to get you out of a sticky situation. If you can only do Junk Diver Scrap Trawler loops, that's way more of a restriction on your deck and way easier to devise a backup strategy for than "playing a monocolor".
The rationale for banning Iona is that it leads to a play experience the rules committee wants to discourage, which is locking people out of playing the game. That's paraphrased from the ban article. Not locking out from winning, which is what you're talking about. Also, discourage, not prevent. You can still do it, but a flagship commander for that strategy that, no matter how you build her, it's gonna cause that bad time, that gets banned. Braids, Cabal Minion is banned for the same reason.
Your rationale of "they can now ban cards because they lead to unfun gameplay? They should ban every card that ever blocked my fun then" sounds very entitled, and hard to agree with. It makes you sound as much of a salty bad player as you blame the RC to be.
6 months ago
Someone starts the game with Leyline of the Void out. What does my mono-red artifact deck do against that to actually enable my recur combos? Goblin Welder and Goblin Engineer are now useless. Myr Retriever is now useless. Daretti, Scrap Savant is now basically useless, only good for a free "faithless looting" each turn. Feldon of the Third Path is useless. Crucible of Worlds is now useless. Scrap Trawler is now useless. Trash for Treasure does nothing. Ichor Wellspring loses half its value. Buried Ruin is just a wasteland at that point. Codex Shredder Grindstone and Millstone now have to be used to mill other people or are useless. They got put into my deck to help me mill myself for a good Scrap Mastery, which is now also pointless.
So yeah, I guess i can still play them, but why would I? They no longer do what they're supposed to do. I wouldn't even bring this up if there was red enchantment removal, but there isn't, so for a mono red graveyard player, Leyline of the Void is as opressive and unanswerable as Iona Vs any monocolored deck
TypicalTimmy Fair enough. I had it played against me too. Before i ran kaalia and had daretti, someone dropped it and named red because i got my hand revealed a turn ago, or maybe the top card of my library was revealed or something. everyone saw i had obliterate or jokalhaups or something in my hand and i had dsteel forge on the board, so i was gonna wipe everyone else and win in the meantime. Somehow lattice hit the board so i obliterated anyway. Even in a 1v1 though, i technically could have still handled it just by using colorless stuff. Maybe that's just an advantage of artifacts - not being gimped by iona.
plakjekaas it sure would help the situation. Maybe not in a 'fun' way, but it would help. It's not "fun" when my carefully constructed combo that i made "uncounterable" is still just countered anyway, for free, because, you know, blue. So ban Mindbreak Trap too.