Bant Panorama

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Bant Panorama

Land

: Add .

, : Sacrifice this: Search your library for a basic Forest, Plains, or Island card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library.

Max_Hammer on Shorikai go vroom

1 month ago

So, right now, Commander included, you've got 126 cards. Seeing as you're only 26 over the cap, this shouldn't be too bad.

This is a low mana cost deck with a lot of draw, you probably only need 34-36 lands if you're being generous. If I were you, I'd drop some of the slower lands, such as Temple of Enlightenment, Skybridge Towers, Prairie Stream, Azorius Chancery, Castle Ardenvale, Castle Vantress, or even Port Town.

You might also want to include more fetch lands, too. Flooded Strand, Fabled Passage, and Flood Plain all come with a pretty high price tag, but they're all good.

On the other side of the coin, Brokers Hideout, Obscura Storefront, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Myriad Landscape, Esper Panorama, and Bant Panorama are all cheaper fetch lands that you could use.

Drawing mana late game can be a dead draw a lot of the time, so being able to remove that excess from your deck can be a really nice tool to have, so you can draw just what you want. Maybe take out cards that are fast, but not necessary such as, Skycloud Expanse, Sea of Clouds, Mishra's Factory, and Crawling Barrens.

Changing it to this (or a list of just 35 mana), should bring us down to 122 cards.

As for non-land ramp, you have a lot. I’m going to say you want to kick out Silver Myr, Gold Myr, Mind Stone, and Ornithopter of Paradise. Normally I’d say more, but for this specific deck that seems to love ramp, this seems more than fine.

118 left.

For the rest, I’d say Ondu Inversion  Flip, Access Denied, Tezzeret the Seeker, Tezzeret, Artifice Master, Phyrexian Metamorph, Cultivator's Caravan, Invoke Justice, and An Offer You Can't Refuse, all mostly because they’re too expensive.

That leaves you with 109

Okay, so, this decklist is surprisingly tight for being 30~ cards over and I don’t know where to kick the last 9 off. Maybe Artificer Class? Maybe some of the creatures/vehicles? Idunno, good luck.

multimedia on I want this deck to …

1 month ago

Hey, this is by far your best deck of the decks you've asked for help on. There's good deck building with a purpose.

The area that needs improvement is the manabase. 16x basic Plains is not going to cut it compared to many less Forests and Islands. The color pie of your deck shows primary white, but it's deceiving since you want a more balanced amount of land sources for each color to consistently cast Arcades. I say consistently because you need to control Arcades or most of your defenders are really not worth it.

Because you're playing green defenders who ramp and green ramp spells then it's important to have green mana more than the other colors in the early game, this isn't shown by the color pie. White and green are the two most important colors then blue. The majority of blue sources should come from dual lands that way the land can make another color except just blue. 8 sources of blue is not enough sources, you want more sources of blue which at the same time will increase sources of each other color.

On a low budget to balance the manabase for equal color fixing play some more always ETB tapped lands. This can unfortunately slow the game down some which means you want to make up for it with card quality.

Why are you playing so many cards that give you hexproof? Leyline of Sanctity and Shalai, Voice of Plenty are second and third most expensive price cards, but they don't help the strategy or have really any interaction with Arcades. If playing Leyline and Shalai then Ivory Mask and Aegis of the Gods aren't needed. Teyo, the Shieldmage is fine since it at least does something else, creating up to two defenders for draw with Arcades. Honestly, keep Shalai for this effect plus other effects and cut the others?

multimedia on Phantom Premonition Customizations

3 months ago

Hey, well done so far upgrading the precon on a budget.

Some cards from the precon to consider adding.

Windfall is a powerful draw spell in multiplayer Commander where opponents can have huge hands of cards. Empty your hand of spells quick then Windfall to draw a whole new hand. Ghostly Flicker is one of the better instant blink spells since it can target two permanents not just a creature. Ghostly Prison can be a helpful effect to have in multiplayer Commander.


I don't think many of the Spirit anthem effects are needed. Some anthems are helpful, since Ranar is a Spirit cards that give him other abilities such as hexproof or flash, but cards that only increase power/toughness are subpar. Coat of Arms is the exception, no other little anthem effect can compare to it.

You're best game plan is to create infinite Spirits on an opponent's turn and then attack with them on your next turn. Infinite Spirits don't need an anthem to be a wincon. Infinite attacking Spirits are however shut down by opponent's Ghostly Prison, Propaganda, Windborn Muse, etc. thus it's important to have consistent removal for these cards. Cutting most of the anthems for more repeatable draw could help gameplay. Consider more repeatable draw options when you create a 1/1 Spirit?

Palace Jailer is powerful with blink, it's a unique card that makes you the monarch when it ETB, you draw a card at your end step and it's repeatable as long as you are the monarch. Only one player in the game can be the monarch at one time and it can change players.

If an opponent does combat damage to you or plays a card that makes them the monarch then that opponent becomes the monarch and you lose the monarch. You can get the monarch back by doing combat damage to the opponent who's the monarch. Flying Spirit tokens are fine fodder for blocking and flying makes them good attackers. Use Spirits as defense to keep the monarch for repeatable draw?

Jailer also does something else when it ETB, exiles an opponent's creature and the only way for opponents to get back their exiled creatures is if you lose the monarch. Each time Jailer is blinked you get to exile an opponent creature.


Skyclave Apparition is a Spirit and is another powerful blink target since it exiles any opponent nonland permanent 4 CMC or less which covers a huge amount of targets in multiplayer Commander. It's a good way with the strategy of blink to get rid of Ghostly Prison, Propaganda, Windborn Muse, etc.

Like with all precons the manabase is subpar and it's going to be difficult on a low budget to make many land upgrades, but here's some lands to consider.

Good luck with your deck.

DreadKhan on Gretchen Titchwillow counter-ramp

4 months ago

I could be wrong, but I think more lands would be an asset here, in particular how about some utility lands on top of what you've already got? War Room is a nice draw effect, if you can bounce and replay it you get access to extra activations. Bant Panorama can find either a Forest or Island and counts for extra landfall. Blighted Woodland and Myriad Landscape are nifty lands that offer another mana sink you can turn to if your Commander is removed. Castle Vantress is a pretty big mana sink that's never bad to have around, and you're likely to have Islands out.

Tatyova, Benthic Druid nets you extra draw when you hit landfall (as does Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait), stuff like Scute Swarm and Rampaging Baloths can make an army for you to help serve as a win con.

This is pretty out there, but stuff like Oboro Breezecaller and ramp on landfall creatures like Stone-Seeder Hierophant in particular can generate enough mana to go infinite with Gretchen if you have a land that taps for 2 or more out, infinite mana and card draw and ramp sounds really good to me, you might even deck yourself. Flooded Shoreline in particular seems like a nice land bounce effect, as long as you're not particular about the specific land you bounce, it even works with Mystic Sanctuary.

eliakimras on Obuun big lands

5 months ago

If you're still upgrading this deck, you might consider some more fetch lands to increase your landfall triggers: Bant Panorama, Jund Panorama, Cabaretti Courtyard, Brokers Hideout, Riveteers Overlook, Mountain Valley, Grasslands.

DemMeowsephs on First Is The Best! (An EDH First Sliver Deck)

10 months ago

Hey there! Not sure how your mana-base is faring, but here are a few suggestions, as manabases in a five color deck can be very difficult.

Tri-Lands

Run all of the tri lands! I hate tap lands, trust me, but with the first sliver at the head I'm willing to bet you want him out as fast as possible. You're running most of them, but I'd recommend getting your hands on the others: Arcane Sanctum, Jungle Shrine, Nomad Outpost, and Sandsteppe Citadel.

Of course, the Ikora triomes would be awesome, but they can be a bit much per land if you have a smaller budget. For reference, here they are: Savai Triome, Ketria Triome, Indatha Triome, Raugrin Triome, Zagoth Triome.

Not sure how you feel about these, but something else to consider would be the 5 panoramas from wherever it was they were first printed. Having that choice of fetch without spending money on the big fetches can be a really big asset in many games: Naya Panorama, Jund Panorama, Grixis Panorama, Esper Panorama, and Bant Panorama.

Semi-Expensive Side

I'm sure you're aware of these, but in case you aren't, there are of course the expensive duals and fetch lands. The fetches (like for example, Bloodstained Mire) are incredibly powerful. They give you the power of choice between yes, the two colors, but beyond that virtually any color you wanted if you ran all the shock lands (like Stomping Ground). If you drew that Bloodstained Mire and needed a green, you could fetch Stomping Ground and boom, you have it. Of course, that is quite a lot of money, but if you weren't aware of them, it's a good thing to keep in mind. On a side note, the fetches are even more extremely powerful as they go to your graveyard, allowing you to recur them (with say, Ramunap Excavator) and get tons of landfall triggers per turn.

Ramp

You don't seem to have too much ramp in the deck besides the 3 green guys and a bit of Artifact ramp. Not sure how much you need more, but some I'd recommend are Fellwar Stone, Ornithopter of Paradise, Three Visits/Nature's Lore if you add the shock lands (like Stomping Ground, etc., then you can use these to find any color), Noble Hierarch, Ignoble Hierarch, Bloom Tender (adds one of each when big sliver is out!!), Birds of Paradise, definitely Arcane Signet, Sylvan Caryatid, etc. The dorks aren't slivers, but they are really really crucial in adding any color. It is a bit much of green though, which is probably not something you want to do, so maybe pick and choose wisely- especially if you replace the green ones I mentioned before (maybe not all of them). Let me know if you'd like some more of these kinds of ramp suggestions.

Anyways, I've got some stuff to do so I'll leave it at that for now- I'm not gonna read through this so sorry for any grammar errors too. Hope some of this is helpful, and insightful. Feel free to check out some of my decks (main one is Double Trouble EDH ⫸PRIMER⫷), and let me know if you have any questions or want some help. Best of luck with your deck, and have a wonderful evening.

edit: most of the slivers and all look good there's a couple things I'd swap no biggies, small things like maybe consider Kindred Discovery or Toski if you like Bident of Thassa) but that looks all good!

bushido_man96 on Close the beaches #seamonsters

11 months ago

If you're looking to capitalize on the landfall theme more, I recommend more land ramp to get the triggers. I'd ditch the Simic Signet for another spell like Nature's Lore or Kodama's Reach/Cultivate. I'd ditch Jungle Basin and Coral Atoll for some other fetch lands like Bant Panorama and Naya Panorama. Gush is a fantastic draw spell in a deck like this. Psychosis Crawler is a great payoff for drawing a bunch of cards.

multimedia on Tuvasa Enchantress

1 year ago

Hey, for a first Commander deck very nice budget version of Tuvasa.

Robe of Stars is from new Aura of Courage Commander precon and it's powerful repeatable protection for Tuvasa and all auras that are attached to her. Mantle of the Ancients is also in that precon and it's a way to reanimate all your auras while also pumping Tuvasa. Open the Armory is a budget aura tutor or it can could get Robe. Moon-Blessed Cleric is a budget enchantment tutor from Adventures of Forgotten Realms.

Setessan Champion is an upgrade for an enchantress. Alpha Authority can protect Tuvasa from opponents targeting with hexproof, but still lets you target her to keep enchanting her and it also gives menace which combined with how big Tuvasa can get is good evasion for her. Favor of the Overbeing gives flying evasion and vigilance letting Tuvasa be an attacker as well as a blocker. Seal of Primordium is an upgrade for Reclamation Sage since it's an enchantment that you can sac right away or at instant speed later.


Consider some budget manabase improvements? The manabase looks neglected compared to the rest of your deck. 26 basic lands is a lot for three colors and except for Command Tower all the other dual lands here ETB tapped. Some lands to consider adding in place of some basic lands, Tranquil Expanse, Woodland Stream and Meandering River:

The Tango lands and Reveal lands have interaction with basic lands to ETB untapped. Could also consider cutting a few lands in place of some more ramp/color fixing that has interaction with Tuvasa. Wild Growth, Abundant Growth and Wolfwillow Haven.

Good luck with your deck.

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