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Buried Ruin Discussion
1 week ago
Hey man! I found you on youtube. I've been searching for fellow Koko players. it's crazy how few of us there are!
I recently built my Kokusho deck and it's become my absolute favorite deck to pilot. I love your deck and I'm totally stealing some of the cards you run. I'm gonna throw my deck at you too and see if you like any of the ideas I have, one fellow Kokusho player to another. These are just ideas or suggestions, take 'em or leave 'em obviously.
Soldevi Adnate - Wait a turn sac outlet. Soldevi can only be used once per turn but it gives you 6 mana!
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed - An extra reanimat in between every reanimate you're able to complete without him. clutch!
Chainer, Dementia Master - Arguable should be the commander, but I prefer him in the 99 myself. But yeah if I could only run one creature in the 99 I think this would be it.
K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth - So much value, especially if you have a Jet Medallion in play. It feels like you're casting everything for free. K'rrik + Chainer + Koko (in GY or on the battlefield) + any sac outlet = combo for the win.
Villis, Broker of Blood - For us he basically says "x: draw x cards, then draw x cards again" that is mana efficient card draw.
Personally I only run 8 creatures in the 99. These 5 absolutely make the cut. (Gary, Disciple, and Crypt Ghast are my other picks which you are already running. Gonti I sometimes throw in just for fun, he doesn't make the deck more powerful but he's fun to play in casual pods. I like stealing cards from people.)
We actually don't have any sorceries in common. Although I have been considering adding Exsanguinate. Anyway, here are some I suggest:
Reanimate - the Original Gangsta of reanimation. The namesake thereof. Very mana efficient. It hurts us a tiny bit in the life lost department. But you came to the right place if you want some life to spend.
Bubbling Muck - very good min-late game ramp spell.
Damnation - An efficient board wipe. It's basically Wrath of God in black.
Toxic Deluge - Also very efficient for us who love to spend life. It can get around indestructible too. I actually feel like I should be running MORE board wipes. Afterall, I have a creature that wants to die and I have very few other creatures. But these two were the best I could find. I also might add Mutilate .
Demonic Tutor - a Classic.
Diabolic Intent - Sac outlet plus a tutor.
Praetor's Grasp - i love stealing from opponents. You can usually find someone at the table that you think will have an Ashnod's Alter. But you can always find something good.
Scheming Symmetry - I like being political and making deals, this is a good way to do that.
Exhume - I can usually find a time to use it when it won't benefit opponents too much. Either way, it's 2 mana to reanimate Koko.
Footsteps of the Goryo
- 3 mana to reanimate. Plus it sacs at end of turn, although i often have sac'd and reanimated it again by that time.
You have a lot of Graveyard to hand effects, which are great, but I much prefer Graveyard to Battlefield.
Instants. I don't have Thrilling Encore but it is my style of play, so i just might add that one. I don't have Tragic Slip either but I can't say it's a bad card. Definitely a good removal spell.
I do have the other three that you have and they are amazing.
a few more I like:
Abnormal Endurance - 2 mana to pre-reanimate or "Preanimate" if you will.
Corpse Dance - 3 mana to reanimate. Plus Koko can come in and swing for 5 in the air so that's a plus. I almost never attack with him otherwise. Buyback on this makes it an absolute must.
Goryo's Vengeance - 1 mana to reanimate, again with haste! you want a sac outlet though else it exile at end of turn. (sends Koko back to command zone, but still, you're rather he die again of course. This one can actually be spliced onto the other Goryo which is fun and seldom happens. lol plus you can't target Koko with both of them if you do it that way, but hey, maybe you get Gary AND Koko.
Grim Return - 3 mana to bring back anything from any graveyard. Usually Koko, but maybe you want something else from someone else's bin. this can get it done. Instant speed is nice.
Sacrifice - one time sac outlet but also net 5 mana ritual! not bad at all.
Shallow Grave - This one, like Corpse Dance, picks only the top card so be careful the order you put things into graveyard. 2 mana to reanimate. yes please.
Undying Evil - very similar to Supernatural Stamina although I actually prefer this one because it leaves him up to block in case you need that.
Vampiric Tutor - not budget at all obviously. But if you have one, this is a great place for it.
Wake the Dead - Kind of niche, but you can usually sac at instant speed so waiting for opponents turn isn't so bad normally. 3 mana to reanimate Koko and sac him again. already quite good. but you could pay 1 more and bring back Gary too if he's in there. 1 more brings back . . .Runescarred Demon or whatever. it only gets better and better in the late game with more mana available and more cards in the graveyard.
Blade of Selves - So this is my number 1 recommendation. It's my favorite card in all of MTG and it's the reason I even wanted to make this deck. I use BoS in my green decks a lot, and I have never made a black deck before but I kept thinking how awesome this would be on Kokusho so... here we are. As long as you have 3 opponents this card says "at the beginning of your combat step gain 30 life and each opponent loses 10 life." Plus you're swinging for 5 in the air so you can point that at the person with the highest life total and hopefully keep all opponents closer together so you don't get to that awkward late game where Koko dies and only gains you 5 or 10 life. Token copies can be abused as well. For instance, You swing Koko equipped with Blade, 2 tokens ETB, you kill one and then let's say you keep the other one and send the real koko to the graveyard because you have an instant speed reanimate effect but no sac outlet. You reanimate him and bam, legend rule triggers again and you kill him again or kill the token this time. You will have to spend 4 more mana to re-equip Blade but it can be worth it at times. Speaking of token copies of koko...
Minion Reflector - Basically a colorless Bramble Sovereign, another card that I love love love in my green decks. Minion reflector makes a copy, kills the real guy, the copy can attack, then maybe you reanimate Koko and let the copy die this time.
- This can be another Cabal Coffers, or a copy of an opponent's Zendikar Resurgent... it's insanely versatile.
you could stack triggers, making it become a copy of Kokusho and then before that resolves you make it a copy of Soldevi Adnate who you just cast. Soldevi has summoning sickness but Mirage Mirror doesn't so you become a copy of Soldevi, then tap to sac Kokusho and add 6 mana, then the first activation resolves and Mirage Mirror becomes Kokusho who isn't even around anymore. It's tapped, but that doesn't matter much, you can sac it for value, or maybe reanimate Kokusho who comes back into what otherwise would have been no sac outlet but now the legend rule triggers and you get another death trigger. End of turn Mirage Mirror is just a tapped Mirage Mirror again.
Mirror of the Forebears - even cheaper version of Mirage Mirror but not nearly as versatile. I always name "Spirit" because Koko is my only dragon but Crypt Ghast is a Spirit so there's a chance I'll want MotF to be a Crypt Ghast later on. Usually though it just becomes a Kokusho until end of turn to give me free repeatable "sacrifice" (not really but essentially the same thing). speaking of dragons...
Dragon's Hoard - This is fun, although I might take it out because there are more powerful things that could be added. But yeah, it's a 3 mana mana rock. Ramp is kind of important early game when you have a 6 mana commander and your whole deck revolves around him. But then you start adding Gold Counters and now it's an extra card you get to draw pretty much every turn.
Phyrexian Altar - Yeah I'd choose Ashnod's over this but it's a close second. well worth the slot IMO.
Blasting Station - Another great sac outlet. Repeatable. and you can ping down opponents' life totals or ping their small utility creatures.
Bolas's Citadel - This is how you get card advantage in mono black. And with koko we have plenty of life to spend! Finishes the game a little faster too, as soon as opponents are under 10 life you might be able to sac everything and tka 'em to 0.
Cauldron of Souls - Not as good as Mikaeus because he might reanimate Koko 2 or 3 times in a turn, but Cauldron is still awesome and can reanimate everybody you've got. Plus, being an artifact, it's a little more resilient than Mike.
Cursed Totem - I might take this out since stax aren't my style. But it is very powerful. Chainer, Vilis, and Soldevi are the only creatures in my entire deck that this hurts.
Jet Medallion - I'm often casting 3 or 4 spells in a turn so this can really put in the work.
Lifeline - interesting effect. it's symmetrical so be careful. but trust me, you'll get more use form it than they will. But yeah, I'd rather play group hug effects that benefit me more than they rather than stax effects that hurt they more than me. Anyway, this brings back anything that dies at the end of the turn, as long as there is another creature on the battlefield. When i'm not trying to win very hard and I just want a fun interesting game this will often be the target of my tutors. If I wanna win I grab Chainer and K'rrick :)
Strionic Resonator - Guess what's better than getting one death trigger from a dying Spirit Dragon? . . .
Well of Lost Dreams - Draw as many cards as you want for 1 mana each. not a bad deal at all.
Wishclaw Talisman - Another tutor, but one that can make friends. I usually pick the person I want to befriend and I say ""I'ma use the first wish, I'll give you the second wish if you give me the third. Deal?" If they won't make the deal I pick another opponent. Someone is likely willing to do it, and you end up with basically 2 Demonic Tutors.
You have amazing enchantments. I don't yet own Wound Reflection or Exquisite Blood but when I get them they will definitely go in this deck. Black Market is AMAZING, Sanguine Bond is a must. The others I don't run but they are great cards. A few I recommend:
Necropotence - After Vilis this is the best card draw spell in my deck. My playgroup always targets it because it can get crazy ESPECIALLY if you have Thought Vessel or Reliquary Tower in play. I've considered running Shimmer Myr and Vedalken Orrery so I can just draw my whole deck minus 1 or 2 cards, and then chain some rituals into Shimmer Myr into Vedalken Orrery into either a win or a Spellbook to keep my hand. But yeah, I don't run those right now. Just reliquary Tower and Thought Vessel. But even without those, I usually pay enough life to draw up to 10 and then I have to exile 3 cards. But it's so much card draw and card selection!
Attrition - Very nice creature removal
Gate to Phyrexia - Very nice artifact removal, although it has been annoying that it can only happen at upkeep. Still worth though!
Tainted AEther - Super mean stax piece. Great for the Kokusho player, not great for anyone else.
Lethal Vapors - This one is even meaner somehow. And I love that it has it's own demise onit. like "hey, you're welcome to end this meanness any time you want man..." My friends have learned to just kill it as soon as it comes out, it's just a matter of who will be the one to lose a turn for the team. pretty funny stuff.
Dawn of the Dead - Kinda like Lifeline but even better IMO. It reanimates at upkeep and gives haste. It's interesting that this and Cauldron of Souls and Chainer and Mikaeus and Lifeline and Corpse Dance with buyback all cost 5 mana. Apparently that's the sweetspot for repeatable reanimates.
Unholy Indenture - A preanimate effect that can steal opponents' creatures if you want to use it for that.
Kaya's Ghostform - Another preanimate for only 1 mana. Also beings it back from exile! I noticed you have a couple planeswalkers as well, this can bring them back too, with renewed loyalty of course, and ready to use a second tie if you killed them on your turn. It's just 1 mana! insane!
Necromancy , Dance of the Dead , and Animate Dead are three more reanimate spells. They have a lot of text but basically they bring koko from GY to battlefield. All three can steal from opponents' graveyards if you so choose. Necromancy can be played as an instant.
I'm currently re-thinking my lands package. I have Field of the Dead so I've kind of gone pretty heavily into running all differently named lands. I have a few Swamps, a few Snow-Covered Swamps, and then a bunch of great stuff and a bunch of janky terrible stuff lol. But I'm thinking i might clean it up a bit and go with more basics to help out Cabal Coffers more.
I'm super jealous of your Cavern of Souls. I would love to get one of those someday. And I too run Glacial Chasm. It can be a really important card in some games. A funny janky combo that I've never done but hope to one day is to have Glacial Chasm in play and Lethal Vapors and then I activate Lethal Vapor's skipping my next turn, but before it resolves and kills Lethal Vapors I activate it again, 1 billion times. Then it dies and I skip all my turns from now on, and if opponents don't have a way to destroy Glacial Chasm, or to drain me of life, then they eventually mill themselves out and lose. Obviously this is very situational, most of the time I feel like they'd be able to find a way to win, but it would be funny nonetheless.
Anyway, good card. Also Nephalia Academy. I didn't even know about that card but I'ma get one and start playtesting it. very interesting effect!
Geier Reach Sanitarium - Sometimes you really want a certain card in your graveyard, this can help you put it there.
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - A classic. Don't forget it might help opponents too though.
Cabal Coffers - Pair with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth for lots of manas.
Gemstone Caverns - Possible turn ramp with little downside.
Ancient Tomb - better in the early game than Temple of the False God. The life loss can add up though, even in a Kokusho deck. In casual meta with longer games it isn't quite as good as it is in cEDH.
Bojuka Bog - Your enemies might be as keen to play from their graveyard as you are. Hit them before they hit you.
Boseiju, Who Shelters All - depending on your meta it might be really important to have uncounterable sometimes. Especially when you tap out to cast a huge Exsanguinate. Nothing worse than having that Mana Drain'd
Buried Ruin - I have several Artifacts I love in this deck, but most of all my baby, Blade of Selves.
Field of the Dead - a powerhouse late game.
High Market - a sac outlet on a land. Run this card! and speaking of sac on a land...
Phyrexian Tower - this is super clutch. It's only once per turn but it's really really good to have.
Diamond Valley - ok I admit I don't own this so it's not in my deck. but if i had a spare 1000 bucks.... this is a great card. It doesn't tap for mana unless you have Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth in play though.
Miren, the Moaning Well - a poor man's Diamond Valley. It does tap for mana though so it's got that over DiamondV. but it will cost 3 to tap it and sak Koko.
Mirrorpool - This taps for colorless, and comes into play tapped. so that suck. but... it can become a Kokusho token to that's pretty cool.
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx - An auto-include in any mono-color deck.
Reliquary Tower - Often overplayed in EDH but in a deck with Vilis or Necropotence it is definitely worth a slot.
Shizo, Death's Storehouse - Not worth it to buy this one for Koko. You pretty much never use it to give him Fear. But it is a differently named card for my Field of the Dead and there's not much downside so... I have it in there for now.
Thawing Glaciers - I think i might take this one out. I don't have many early game ramp spells so I thought this might be good but omg it's so slow! it was aptly named.
Witch's Cottage - This one is up your alley since you like returning from GY to top of library.
Volrath's Stronghold - is another such card with a very similar effect you might like.
I have Vesuva which usually copies Cabal Coffers. and I have Thespian's Stage and Dark Depths for my boi Marit Lage. They make for fun things to tutor from your two wishes on Wishclaw Talisman. There are stronger things that could be done but if you feel like just being silly and smashing face with a 20/20 indestructible flier then there's always that option.
Urborg is a silly land to run, i mean there's no downside other than it isn't a swamp. But there's really no upside either except for people saying "what the hell is that?" which can be fun. Most people have never heard of it and have been calling Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth by this name without realize it belongs to another.
Well if you made it to the end of my novel, congratulations. Let me know what you think of these cards and stay in touch so we can bounce Kokusho ideas off of each other.
3 weeks ago
For the sake of formatting, I'm just going to make lists for what I would cut and add respectively, but it's really personal preference.
What I would consider banishing:
Tainted Wood - The deck doesn't have a lot of swamps.
Memorial to Unity - It enters tapped and only produces one colour, so there are other things your deck could do instead.
Viridian Zealot - a bit costly for what it does.
Vampire Hexmage - You don't seem to really abuse it, so it can be lacking.
Tribute to the Wild - It's kind of restrictive and doesn't always get rid of something relevant.
Merciless Eviction - Your deck doesn't really want to exile its own stuff, so other wraths that destroy instead are preferable.
Vraska, Relic Seeker - This seems costly for what she does, but she has her moments.
Evolutionary Leap - It can be powerful, but all of your creatures seem huge and worth keeping around. It's best to run this with more fodder in the deck.
Whip of Erebos - This is up in the air. I don't enjoy the exile clause of this card, but it's instant-speed and efficient, whilst offering life-gain. Your choice.
Acidic Slime - It's an expensive effect, but a powerful one at that. You already have other five-drops in Sidisi, Undead Vizier and Thalia's Lancers so perhaps it's worth exclusion. Declaration in Stone - It's a bit restrictive for its cost and a sorcery, so I don't think it merits a deck slot.
What I would consider adding:
Grisly Salvage - Essentially takes a land slot with other worth in the later turns, stocking the graveyard.
Satyr Wayfinder - Can be fodder for your sacrifice shenanigans and a land for the early turns (hopefully).
Ransack the Lab - Fills the yard and draws a card. That rhymes, so it's fantastic. However, it only goes three cards deep, so it may be unreliable at finding a land. I'm yet to miss, but it's possible.
Altar of Dementia - This is just a ridiculous card that gives you options for the graveyard later and scales with your large creatures. Great defense, too, and a massive threat.
Perpetual Timepiece - This is great for decks that are all-in on the graveyard plan, so maybe not. It doesn't draw cards, but it grants other routes.
Unburial Rites - If you mill it over, it's still castable. Even if, it gets two things back.
Dread Return - Efficient reanimation and the same from the graveyard.
Buried Ruin - Recursion in the land-base is always lovely.
Ghostly Prison - With high-cost creatures, this can aid in surviving the early game.
Anguished Unmaking - This card almost always relevant, cheap, and instant-speed. It's a safe option that hits everything.
Necrotic Sliver - It is recurrable universal removal, so it could be rather effective.
Swords to Plowshares - One mana and an instant, it's far too potent. I'd add this.
Despark - This can be efficient, but restrictive. I've found success with it, but it comes down to preference.
Assassin's Trophy - If it's within budget, this is as good as it gets.
Vindicate - Hits it all and does it all.
Rampant Growth - Ramp and more ramp.
Wood Elves - Fodder and ramp.
Explosive Vegetation - Lots of ramp.
Paradise Druid - Fodder and ramp.
Lots of fodder, lots of ramp.
You can really customize your own removal, but you already have many ways to deal with creatures, so removal for other permanents is ideal.
That's what I have for you. Now wreck them all.
3 weeks ago
I don't see the use in adding white as an extra color for a creature here.
What I would do is remove Leonin Squire , Arid Mesa , Godless Shrine , Plains , and Sacred Foundry . Substitute the creature with one of these: - Trading Post - Skeleton Shard - Fortuitous Find - Myr Retriever , OR - Scrap Trawler
The Arid Mesa , Godless Shrine , Plains , and Sacred Foundry can be traded out for mountains and swamps, as well as: - Cinder Barrens - Canyon Slough (this has Cycling, so would be good for drawing) - Akoum Refuge - Blackcleave Cliffs - Bloodfell Caves - Dragonskull Summit , AND/OR - Buried Ruin , which would give you additional room to return artifacts
1 month ago
Hi there dude!
I love the idea behind your cEdh! Taigam, Sidisi's Hand is such a underdog! Since this is a budget version you are looking for, I would consider to have more cycle\cantrips effects.
HF! Good luck in your future games <3
1 month ago
XinZhao Yeah I can add in Buried Ruin , haven't really had a problem with my artifacts being destroyed. Thanks for recommendations, but I feel Disenchant is better overall currently over Bedevil . There is a lot more enchantments in my meta and I need the flexibility. Utter End on the other hand has been on my mind, but the only thing stopping me from running it right now is the 4 CMC, it's good but I have to see how much single target removal I need in comparison to sweepers. Crackling Doom is a pet favorite card and I always liked having it in part of my package, killed people with the 2 damage before as well as making each opponent sac their greatest power creature. (Get's rid of that Blightsteel Colossus or any other hexproof/indestructible shenanigans)
As for Murderous Rider , I tried him in the beginning and I cut him out afterwards. I never really liked having him in my hand but maybe cuz I'm not going knight tribal, if it is Knight tribal I would reconsider adding him back in. For Embercleave I don't run enough creatures to make it work and even than I rather have other cheaper equipments. Appreciate the feedback!
1 month ago
Academy Ruins - reuse your land fetch artifacts.
Buried Ruin - same as above.
Inventors' Fair - can fetch your artifacts.
Fabricate - fetch which artifact you need.
Enlightened Tutor - self explanatory
Dispatch - you have enough artifacts that this can be a no draw back path or swords.
Baleful Strix - value
Magus of the Moat - to go with your sanctuary.
Archetype of Imagination - creatures can't attack you with Moat or Sanctuary out.
Junk Diver - re use artifacts
Workshop Assistant - re use artifacts.
Myr Retriever - re use artifacts.
Alela, Artful Provocateur - can be a hidden commander/backup to Dakon.
Strata Scythe - can get big.
You might want to cut back on the non basic lands and replace them with the other fetches you can get.
1 month ago
Hey dude, liking these changes, the deck feels a lot more streamlined than before!
If you’re looking for additional suggestions, then these are my current thoughts:
1) you probably either want to make the deck more consistent, by running more 4-ofs instead of all the 1-and-2-ofs, or else allow it to work better under a more tool-boxy build, by including a playset of Whir of Invention . I’m not sure how viable it’d be getting 3 blue for Whir though, so probably better to go for the first option. But in either case, you’re looking to more reliably get the pieces you need to see the game through. So more of the key cards like Walking Ballista , for example.
2) the tricky part of any deck - whittling it down to 60 cards. Anything above 60 will just make it less consistent and make your draws generally worse. Being able to confine your mainboard to 60 will make your deck stronger overall and having to critically evaluate cards down to that restriction makes for a better deckbuilder over time also.
3) some other cards to consider:
Voltaic Servant can help make your Steel Overseers go crazy, as well as help Traxos stay upright.
Inventors' Fair can help drag the game out longer while also finding useful cards lategame
Buried Ruin can help to protect your boardstate by getting back the stuff that gets sniped.
Expedition Map feels vitally important for getting an earlier Tron, it’ll allow you to run more higher-cmc cards also (as tron will be more reliable)
consider adding a single Mycosynth Lattice to your sideboard so your Karn can fetch it for an auto-win condition (prevents your opponents from being able to tap their lands etc)
Tron loves Wurmcoil Engine , but i know these cards are expensive money-wise. If you can manage to get some, they’d make the deck much, much stronger (you’d probably only want to run 2 of them, maybe 3 at a push, depending how easily you can assemble Tron)
1 month ago
Hey, good budget version of Saheeli. Interesting concept using X spells rather than more big colorless creatures.
Since you're trying to win with X cost instant/soceries then consider adding Mystical Tutor as one of the expensive price cards? Could cut Planar Bridge for it? Bridge is fine to cheat onto the battlefield, but still need to activate it's ability which is a lot. Cards that can recur Mystical such as Mystic Sanctuary and Mystic Retrieval could be added use Mystical again.
Consider adding other budget artifacts or cards that have interaction with artifacts? Cards to consider adding:
- Ash Barrens
- Buried Ruin
- Talisman of Creativity
- Everflowing Chalice
- Prismatic Lens
- Skullclamp : Servos are 1/1s.
- Foundry Inspector
- Kuldotha Forgemaster
- Goblin Welder
Talisman, Chalice and Lens are other budget two drop mana artifacts which are helpful to ramp into four drop Saheeli. Forgemaster and Welder are good when you have a repeatable source of 1/1 Servos. Being able to sac a Servo(s) to cheat a better artifact onto the battlefield. Forgemaster for it's comparable price can do a lot more than Master of Etherium . Because Servos are 1/1s then this makes Skullclamp repeatable draw which is good with Crawler. Skullclamp because you're trying to win with Crawler can do more for the comparable price than Mirage Mirror .
Cards to consider cutting:
- Izzet Cluestone
- Izzet Locket
- Prototype Portal
- Planar Bridge
- Mirage Mirror
- Master of Etherium
- Darksteel Juggernaut
- Metalwork Colossus
- Hellkite Igniter
Good luck with your deck.
Buried Ruin occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.07%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.11%
UR (Izzet): 0.74%