Island

Basic Land — Island

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BLOODGUILT on DesignMistakes.dek

5 days ago

I see you included the most powerful card in all of Magic.... Island good choice!

sylvannos on B&R February 15 2021

1 week ago

@DuTogira: You're not really thinking about where Chrome Mox fits into the format vs. Simian Spirit Guide . Simian Spirit Guide is like an uncounterable Lotus Petal that isn't shut off by Stony Silence with the only downside being you can't recur it. Chrome Mox requires you to pitch a card and it's an artifact that has to be activated.

Where does that even fit in Modern? Cascade decks don't play it because Violent Outburst into Chrome Mox is all kinds of feel bad. Storm doesn't really want it because of the card disadvantage. You could do something stupid like Island -> Chrome Mox -> Exile red card -> Goblin Electromancer , but that leaves you with only 3 cards to try and win with (4 on your draw step). They basically have to be Gifts Ungiven , ritual, ritual, Manamorphose . If your opponent Lightning Bolt s the 2/2 or blows up the Chrome Mox , you won't be able to do anything other than cast Gifts Ungiven and pass. Griselshoal is in a similar spot, where it's already struggling to get the combo running. And Urza decks aren't even playing a full set of Mox Amber , so it's not like another mox that struggles to work because 70% of the deck is colorless is adding anything.

So where does that leave Chrome Mox ? Probably in a similar position from when it was in Extended. It gets used like another copy of Aether Vial for aggro decks or another mana rock for midrange. The most likely places you'd see Chrome Mox are in decks like D&T, Infect, Fish, Ponza, and the odd combo deck like Oops! All Spells or Griselshoal.

I'm just speculating and obviously I can be wrong. I think, though, that a more serious question needs to be had regarding Modern's banlist. If we can unban Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Bitterblossom , maybe we need to reevaluate what cards are problematic and what cards are on there because they were too good in Standard, Extended, or previous versions of Modern. We also need to consider which cards are causing other cards to get banned, Urza, Lord High Artificer or Ancient Stirrings being good examples.

greyninja on Land based edh

1 week ago

Cool idea for a thread! My Muldrotha, the Gravetide deck has many ways to loop extra turns. A couple involve lands, which not everyone expects. I've succeeded in both of these at least once. They take a bit of set up, but very satisfying overall.

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Phyrexian Tower to sac Archaeomancer . Muldrotha, the Gravetide allows you to recast Archaeomancer , bringing back Temporal Manipulation . Take the extra turn and do it again! Requires seven mana plus Phyrexian Tower ; which is a crucial piece of the puzzle

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Walk the Aeons and sac three Island s. Crucible of Worlds and Azusa, Lost but Seeking allow you to loop this to infinity. This is a more commonly known combo.

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Honorable mention to Sylvan Awakening which I run in one of my omnath decks. Card is rowdy late game!

Omniscience_is_life on Card creation challenge

1 week ago

Good explanation as any, thanks!

Lacrimae, Cloud-Kin Seer

Legendary Creature - Moonfolk Wizard

At the beginning of your upkeep, each creature your opponents control gets -1/-1 for each basic Island you control.

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Make a card that has too much rules text to fit flavor text

Tyrant-Thanatos on I miss mana burn

1 week ago

1. Reminisce on the days of mana burn

2. Play Yurlok of Scorch Thrash

3. ????

4. Profit

Also in my experience Citadel of Pain has only become better at messing with control without manaburn. When everyone can just freely tap out to avoid the damage, taking 2 to leave your two Island s untapped is suspicious af.

Mcat1999 on Omniscience_is_life

3 weeks ago

Okay that combo sounds spicy! I'd love to learn it so I can playtest against your deck sometime.

Combos in my Kinnan deck!

Firstly, it's very important to get an opening hand with multiple manarocks and one or two lands. You can usually drag out your turns and be unassuming if you even take a one-land hand, as all you need are 2 lands to win the game. Truth be told, you can win the game with 0 lands if you get a Mana Crypt or even if you junk a land for a Mox Diamond into a Sol Ring . Either way, your goal is to land Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy on turn 2 with lands, allowing you to tap your rock for 2x mana to play a second rock.

For example, I love opening with a fetch land into Rimewood Falls as it's the only land that is forced to enter tapped in my deck. Then I can play a basic, tutor out Breeding Pool and shock it, or tutor out a Tropical Island . Seriously, T1 Rimewood Falls is an amazing start for the deck.

But again, you can drag the deck out to turn 3, turn 5, even turn 7. If opponent's see you doing nothing and failing to produce anything, they generally lay off you. Either way, your goal is to get one or two rocks out before Kinnan.

For example, suppose you have a Forest and an Island in play and you were fortunate enough to land a turn 1 Sol Ring . Kinnan turns your Sol Ring into which you can now spend into a Simic Keyrune which now pays for an Arcane Signet with which you can now pass the turn. And now you've got 9 mana sitting on the field when you untap on turn 3. That's some serious power. That's how you ramp into the Skyclave Relic or The Great Henge or Thran Dynamo super quickly.

Regardless, onto combos!

Brutalizer Exarch is the unsung hero of the deck. He ETBs and tutors out to the top of the deck. You want to find Deadeye Navigator . Wheel Kinnan - more on that in a moment - and pop DN into play. Deadeye now Soulbonds with Brutalizer.

Blink Brutalizer. Tutor out Nyxbloom Ancient and wheel into play. You've now used 16 mana, but you can easily have 21+ mana in play so don't worry about this.

It is very, very important not to tap out. You never want to tap out with Kinnan. Only put 7 mana in at once. If you have 16 mana you can produce, only produce 7 of it.

It is also incredibly important to never, under any circumstances, dump all mana into Kinnan at once. If you do, you'll fail. If I have 21 mana, that's 3x activations. If I announce I'm putting three activations on the stack and he's hit with a Path to Exile , I am absolutely screwed for the turn. However, if I announce I am putting 1x activation in, my opponent may still respond for the Path to Exile but I can now say "In response, taps rocks I activate Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy "

Now, even if Kinnan dies or is exiled, I at least got SOMETHING. In my example above, what happens if I do happen to get lucky and wheel into a Deadeye Navigator ?

Soulbond to Kinnan and pay and now he's no longer the original target of Path to Exile . ;)

Regardless, we aren't here to protect Kinnan! We are here to win! In the way Simic does best! CHEATING!!

Okay, so Brutalizer Exarch is in play. You tutored Deadeye Navigator to the top. You wheeled and blinked Brutalizer to find Nyxbloom Ancient and wheeled again. Jesus man. So that's like 23 mana. But like I said, you can produce mana exceedingly easily.

Hopefully you have at least some sources left open. If not, pass and hope your state remains in tact. Usually it will as most players typically need time to find answers and do not readily have them available at all times during the game.

Assuming you can go off, tap what you can and wheel again. Remember that Nyxbloom Ancient gives you 3x the mana, and Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy adds +1 of whatever type you produced to your pool. So if you tap a single Simic Cluestone for , you now produce 4x . So leaving open just 1 source of and one source of is usually enough for at least 1x wheel at this point. If you have several sources open, you're golden.

You need to stack your mana now. If you are tight on mana, wheel and prey to the Lords of Chaos that you get one of your 11 Clone creatures. Oh yes. Eleven. If not, blink Brutalizer Exarch and cheat one into play.

Progenitor Mimic is great and flashy, Mercurial Pretender is amazing to constantly blink in and out by himself, Vesuvan Shapeshifter is wonderful for upkeep changes, Vizier of Many Faces is perfect as he can be cast from the graveyard.

Copy Nyxbloom Ancient and enjoy adding 10x mana for each rock.

So where's this combo? Well this is the setup for the outrageous mana production you want to achieve. I try to get 3x Nyxbloom Ancient s in play, which yields 27x mana for lands and 28x mana for rocks thanks to Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy 's +1 ability. Oh, and a playset yields 81 - 82 mana ;) A single Mana Crypt gives you now 162 mana at this point... So yeah...

Most Nyxbloom Ancient s I've had in play at a single time were 5x. That's 243 on a land and 243 on a Simic Cluestone . Simic Signet is especially fun because it'll double both types of mana.

Okay, so where the hell is this combo??

Glad you asked.

Got your absurd mana production online? Good. Let's begin.

• Brutalizer Exarch
• Deadeye Navigator blinks it
• Tutor Woodfall Primus to the top
• Wheel
• Woodfall Primus lands
• Destroy ;) noncreature ;) permanent
• Blink Deadeye Navigator
• Soulbond to Woodfall Primus
• Blink Primus and destroy every single land, artifact, enchantment and Planeswalker in play.

What if you have The Great Henge in hand, though? And you want to blow the boardstate up for free?

• Brutalizer, Navigator, Blink, Primus, Blink
• Tutor out Gigantoplasm
• Wheel
• Gigantoplasm copies Woodfall Primus
• Cast The Great Henge
• Pay into Gigantoplasm
• It becomes a 0/0 and dies
• PERSIST TRIGGER
• Comes back
• Copies Woodfall Primus
• -1/-1 counter :(
• The Great Henge is super effective!
• +1/+1 counter :)
• They cancel out
• Destroy noncreature permanent
• Repeat. Oh, don't forget to draw your cards ;)

Alright alright, what about creatures though??

• Brutalizer, Deadeye, blink, Meteor Golem , wheel
• Blink Deadeye Navigator
• Soulbond to Meteor Golem
• Oops no creatures

Ooh, spicy. Any more?

Yes.

• Brutalizer, Deadeye, blink, Amphin Mutineer , wheel
• Amphin enters, exiles a creature and Soulbonds to Deadeye Navigator
• Soulbond to Amphin Mutineer
• Exile everything

Wait but they get 4/3 Sala---

• Blink Deadeye Navigator
• Soulbond to Brutalizer Exarch
• Blink Brutalizer
• Tutor Thorn Mammoth
• Wheel
• Soulbond to Mammoth
• Thorn Mammoth fights a 4/3 Salamander and wins
• Blink Thorn Mammoth to reset the damage marked on him. Wipe the Salamanders off the face of the planet.

Fine, but how do you plan on winning?

• Brutalizer, Deadeye, blink, tutor Craterhoof Behemoth , End-Raze Forerunners or Earthshaker Giant
• Shenanigans ensue
• Big bois are the biggest of bois
• Swing for lolololethalololol

Alright but what if your creatures don't have haste so you can't swing in this turn?

• Janky combo-mombo stuff
• Blink Brutalizer and find yourself some clones, then start blinking the the clones or original copies of Craterhoof Behemoth and / or End-Raze Forerunners . They have haste, so they can swing the same turn. Be sure to choose who you are blinking and keep it steady. If you are blinking your Spark Double , keep doing so, so that your Craterhoof Behemoth doesn't reset after being an 168/168 or something. Make sure you have several copies in play that you are building up so you can take down all opponents in one swing.

It got a turn 2 win by getting Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy out super early thanks to a Mana Crypt and a Tropical Island which got me a Arcane Signet or something. Next turn I was able to pay for Basalt Monolith which goes infinite as it taps for but requires only to untap. So I am +1 each activation.

Spent 7x on a Chromatic Orrery which now means I produce infinite mana of any color, meaning I can wheel an infinite number of times. If I didn't like what I got (Such as a Craterhoof Behemoth too early), I can elect to not bring him out since it's a MAY ability.

And bingo-bango-bongo I won the game on turn 2.

As for Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy , his ability can be a bit costly. That's why we run Biomancer's Familiar to get his ability from down to down to down to and eventually down to just if you'd like, but I personally find this to be too much. Stopping at is wonderful as it saves a Clone and also gives you use for mana. Otherwise that mana is worthless.

Also Illusionist's Bracers , Lithoform Engine and Rings of Brighthearth are stupidly overpowered.

So yeah, that's the deck in a nutshell. :D!

And at no point do you even need Nyxbloom Ancient . It's more of a wincon if you want to go out flashy. Typically you win by good old-fashioned overrunning with trample and bodies.

It's surprisingly politics-heavy, as you can make deals to not blow their stuff up in exchange for protection from attacks or whatever. Like I can say that I'll take out a problematic Rhystic Study or Smothering Tithe by blinking or wheeling a Reclamation Sage , but I don't want to be attacked for a turn.

Stuff like that.

PrettzyDizzy on Eligeth and Esior - Sphinx and his Owl--KHM UPDATE

3 weeks ago

Changes:

Island -> Snow-Covered Island

Glimmer of Genius -> Graven Lore

Reason: Graven Lore was just too good to pass up.

Rhystic Study -> Inscription of Insight

Mystic Remora -> Sentinel Totem

Reason: I simply needed to make some cuts and while I do agree Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora are super powerful cards I felt like that the deck is able to draw enough without them. Insription of Insight is a versatile spell which can do so much and Sentinel Totem cycles itself if Eligeth is out and can control our opponents 'yards.

ShadeyJ on Looking for Advice on this …

1 month ago

Here's the Deck if its easier:

All But Yellow Sno

1 Ascendant Spirit 1 Blizzard Brawl 1 Elven Bow 1 Giant's Amulet 1 Pilfering Hawk 1 Aegar, the Freezing Flame 1 Bound in Gold 2 Glittering Frost 1 Horizon Seeker 1 Icehide Troll 2 Mistwalker 1 Dwarven Hammer 1 Svella, Ice Shaper 1 Forging the Tyrite Sword 1 Behold the Multiverse 1 Esika's Chariot 2 Littjara Kinseekers 1 Spirit of the Aldergard 1 Struggle for Skemfar 1 Inga Rune-Eyes 1 Elderleaf Mentor 1 Ravenous Lindwurm

2 Island 1 Snow-Covered Plains 4 Forest 1 Snow-Covered Forest 1 Mountain 1 Glacial Floodplain 1 Hengegate Pathway  ^Flip 1 Ice Tunnel 1 Alpine Meadow 1 Gnottvold Slumbermound 2 Shimmerdrift VAle 1 Faceless Haven

Sideboard

1 Tormentor's Helm 1 Wings of the Cosmos 1 Snakeskin Veil 1 Draugr's Helm 1 Divine Gambit 1 In Search of Greatness 2 Raise the Draugr 1 Goldvein Pick 1 Rune of Mortality 1 Beskir Shieldmate 1 Draugr Thought-Thief 1 Doomskar Oracle 1 Harald, King of Skemfar 1 Scorn Effigy 1 Infernal Pet 1 Starnheim Courser 1 Tuskeri Firewalker 1 Dwarven Reinforcements 1 Axgard Braggart 1 Karfell Kennel-Master 1 Hagi Mob 1 Tergrid's Shadow 1 Warhorn Blast 1 Undersea Invader 1 Cinderheart Giant

1 Snow-Covered Swamp 1 Darkbore Pathway  ^Flip