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Creature — Goblin Artificer
: Choose target artifact a player controls and target artifact card in that player's graveyard. If both targets are still legal as this ability resolves, that player simultaneously sacrifices the artifact and returns the artifact card to the battlefield.
1 week ago
I really like your Alibou list! It's a fair chunk different than mine, but my guess is that we play is fairly different metas. My playgroup doesn't do stax too much, so i've stayed away from them in my build. It's cool to see a deck list that utilizes cards like Ethersworn Canonist and Lodestone Golem. Sands of Time looks chaotic as hell, and pretty synergistic with Alibou.
Also, the infect win conditions are fun. Grafted Exoskeleton is terrifying on Alibou.
I like seeing the graveyard interactions in the deck, I ended up cutting a lot of that from my deck as it doesn't directly synergize with Alibou, but Scrap Trawler, Goblin Welder and Sun Titan can do wonderful things together.
I have a question somewhat unrelated to this deck, I have an Imotekh the Stormlord deck which does a lot of artifact graveyard shennanigans and runs Kuldotha Forgemaster. How has that card played out for you? I've found it a little slow sometimes, but it also looks like it can do insane things. What makes for a good artifact shell around Kuldotha?
1 week ago
Maybe you're right though, maybe Recombiner wouldn't fit in this iteration of Moraug. I could see an artifact-combo-based Moraug list being cool though. Like it could go infinite using things like Great Furnace + Goblin Welder, or Salvaging Station + Darksteel Citadel + stuff, and tutors like Recombiner, Goblin Engineer, Gamble, Hoarding Dragon, Inventors' Fair, Moonsilver Key, Goblin Matron, etc. Lots of constructs that'd fit the strat too like Salvager of Ruin, Scrap Trawler, Workshop Assistant. Sorry got way off topic haha
1 week ago
Are you asking for just self-recurring artifacts or artifact recursion in general because and are very good at the latter. For the former, your options are a little limited without . I'd look at artifacts with "unearth", or artifacts like Spine of Ish Sah, Scrap Trawler or Myr Retriever. If you want more general artifact recursion then I'd recommend Daretti, Scrap Savant, Goblin Engineer, Scrap Mastery, Trading Post, and Trash for Treasure. Most of these can be safely played at the precon power level. Some recursion effects that are on the stronger end are Goblin Welder, Portal to Phyrexia, Emry, Lurker of the Loch, and Academy Ruins. These are stronger in my opinion because of their efficiency, repeatability, and they possess fewer constraints.
As far as "how to build a precon level deck" goes, I wouldn't worry about purposely nerfing the deck per say, but maybe asking yourself "could a precon handle the synergies, resiliency, and value engines that my deck creates?". Ultimately though, I think the best advice I can give is to build the deck that you want to build, and that you think is precon level. Then play it against some precons. That will give you the best feel for where you deck is at and if you need to add or remove things.
1 week ago
My favourite option for recursion is Goblin Welder, mostly for the flavour text :) I'm not sure if it's pre-con level though.
2 weeks ago
Hey, you left out highlighting or explaining the best infinite combo with Urza you have here. Urza + Myr Battlesphere + Ashnod's Altar = infinite Myrs, infinite colorless mana, infinite copies of all artifacts you control and infinite damage to each player with Breya.
Nice version so far on a semi budget, but build around the Urza + Battlesphere + Altar combo with more protection? Consider more combo protection? Urza + Battlesphere + Altar combo can be activated at instant speed at any time as long as you control all three permanents and have 6 colorless mana available. You're going to want more than 6 colorless mana if you intend to activate the combo though because you'll also want instant protection.
- Spellskite --> Armillary Sphere
- Counterspell --> Burnished Hart
- Boros Charm --> Indomitable Creativity
- Stubborn Denial --> Fateful Handoff
Darksteel Forge and Padeem, Consul of Innovation can protect Altar + Battlesphere, but they can't protect Urza without additional effect to make Urza an artifact. In the combo Urza is also not leaving the battlefield making him much easier to protect.
Assembling combos in Breya is made much easier with Wishclaw Talisman and because it's an artifact it has insane interaction with Breya. You can sac Wishclaw before opponent gains control of it, but still tutor for your card. When you activate Wishclaw it puts the entire effect as one trigger onto the stack. In response sac Wishclaw, putting it into your graveyard, then when you resolve Wishclaw trigger you tutor for your card, but opponent doesn't gain control of Wishclaw because it's no longer on the battlefield. Pair Wishclaw with Goblin Welder, Emry, Lurker of the Loch, Goblin Engineer or any other artifact recursion/reanimation source for a repeatable tutor.
- Wishclaw Talisman --> Cityscape Leveler
- Emry, Lurker of the Loch --> Tezzeret the Schemer
- Goblin Engineer --> Urza, Powerstone Prodigy
Master Transmuter is powerful with high CMC artifacts especially when she can help assemble combos Darksteel Forge and Myr Battlesphere. It's also nice with Breya as a source to create more Thopters for 1 mana or to abuse any other artifact that has an ETB ability.
- Master Transmuter --> Slagstone Refinery
Consider more Pain lands and Artifact lands? They could replace some basic lands to improve color fixing/Breya interaction which can help gameplay. 23 basic lands is a lot in a four color deck.
- Spire of Industry --> 1x Swamp
- Shivan Reef --> 1x Mountain
- Adarkar Wastes --> 1x Plains
- Caves of Koilos --> 1x Swamp
- Battlefield Forge --> 1x Plains
- Sulfurous Springs --> 1x Mountain
- Ancient Den --> 1x Plains
- Vault of Whispers --> 1x Swamp
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
Hey, well done version on a budget.
If you like Thopters and want to make your deck more competitive then consider adding the budget Sword + Foundry combo? Sword of the Meek + Thopter Foundry creates Thopters equal to the amount of mana you have available. Foundry sacs Sword, moving Sword to graveyard, Foundry creates a 1/1 Thopter which then returns Sword to the battlefield attached to the Thopter and repeat. Even without Foundry, Sword is a good artifact with Breya for sac fodder because it can return to the battlefield.
If you add Ashnod's Altar to Sword of the Meek + Thopter Foundry then it's a combo to create infinite Thopters. Create infinite Thopters on an opponent's turn and then attack with them on your next turn to win or attack with them you're same turn with Thopter Engineer. Each time you sac a Thopter with Altar you make enough mana to activate Foundry twice. One Thopter is saced to make colorless mana and the other isn't, results in creating infinite Thopters and infinite colorless mana. Altar was just reprinted in the latest set Brothers War (BRO), Retro Artifacts version (BRR), it's down to $5.
Breya and her Thopters can be a wincon with Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle combo. Because Breya can sac herself to do 3 damage to a player then this can enable Deathmantle to repeatedly return her to the battlefield resulting in doing infinite damage to each opponent, 3 damage at a time. Altar sacs a Thopter + Breya which makes 4 mana and when Breya dies it triggers Deathmantle. Pay the 4 to return Breya to the battlefield and repeat. It's great for synergy that all these combo pieces are artifacts making it much easier to assemble them.
Wishclaw Talisman is busted with Breya because it's an artifact, she can sac it along with any other artifact before an opponent gains control of it. When you activate Wishclaw that puts the entire effect on the stack. In response to this, activate Breya and sac Wishclaw. When you resolve the Wishclaw trigger you search for your card, put it into your hand and since Wishclaw is no longer on the battlefield then an opponent doesn't gain control of it, it instead is in your graveyard to be recurred. Wishclaw is great with Emry, Lurker of the Loch and Goblin Welder for a repeatable tutor.
- Wishclaw Talisman --> Treasure Keeper
I see Unwinding Clock here which is good with Master Transmuter because it's an artifact and it taps for it's ability. Transmuter has a unique powerful effect because of the way it's worded, it doesn't target, you can return the same artifact you bounce to your hand right back to the battlefield. With Clock + Breya you can create two Thopters on each player's turn equal to the number of players. Transmuter is also great to cheat high CMC artifacts onto the battlefield by bouncing any artifact you control. Especially high CMC artifacts if they have an ETB ability such as Myr Battlesphere to keep creating Myrs, Spine of Ish Sah to keep destroying opponent permanents, Thought Monitor for repeatable draw, etc.
Making some land changes within your budget can make your deck more competitive by cutting some lands that always ETB tapped for lands that don't. The Pain lands and other lands like them are excellent budget lands especially when your Commander can gain life. They ETB untapped to make colorless mana or you take 1 damage to make a colored mana. The Pains have been reprinted in the last two Standard sets making them the least expensive right now. You can also start to find some Pain lands in new Commander precons which is a welcomed manabase upgrade.
- Spire of Industry --> Evolving Wilds
- Underground River --> Dimir Aqueduct
- Shivan Reef --> Terramorphic Expanse
- Adarkar Wastes --> Azorius Chancery
- Caves of Koilos --> Temple of Deceit
- Battlefield Forge --> Boros Garrison
- Sulfurous Springs --> Rakdos Carnarium
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Goblin Welder re use artifacts.
Goblin Engineer Tutor for artifact. + reuse
Fervent Champion fantastic aggressive creature cheat on equipt cost.
Sticky Fingers menace plus ramp
Feel free to look at my mono red vulton equipment deck for more ideas. Valduk Keeper of the Treasury
2 months ago
Cranial Plating potential win condition.