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- Are abilities of an enchant creature the enchanted creature's abilities or the enchantment's?
- If steel overseer's ability is on the stack and it is destroyed does the ability remain on the stack if it still having legal targets?
- Inkmoth Nexus and Ensoul Artifact Rules
- Steel Overseer + Springleaf drum
- would mutavault get a +1/+1 counter...
Artifact Creature — Construct
: Put a +1/+1 counter on each artifact creature you control.
2 months ago
The only thing I can think of that might be a good add is Steel Overseer
3 months ago
Some thoughts from my own time playing this archetype
you really need mainboard Welding Jar (ideally 3) for todays highly-interactive meta.
Steel Overseer is too slow and too fragile to be of much use imo. It’s a liability.
i’d heavily suggest a playset of Inkmoth Nexus to give you a ton more ways to get off a turn-3 kill.
your mainboard should prolly have a few more toolbox options for Urza's Saga to go grab
6 months ago
Keeping that in mind, here’s an example list incorporating my suggestions:
7 months ago
Ramos, Dragon Engine can only be played in a five color deck using it as Commander or another five color Commander. It's activated ability has all five mana symbols and those symbols count toward it's color identity. Urza's color identity is only three colors Esper (black, white, blue). Because Urza doesn't have red and green that's why Ramos can't be played with Urza as Commander.
If you want aggro with Urza lets look at the beginning of the mana curve first, cards spots of 0-3 CMC only then we can look at the higher end of the mana curve. The first changes to consider is to remove all the nonartifact creatures and then later determine if they are worth a spot in your deck because they have abilities that help artifacts or Urza. I think you'll find that you don't need any of these creatures because artifact creatures can take their places. If you want to be aggro with Urza then you want to utilize Urza's artifact creature affinity to cast Urza quicker. To do this consistently Urza wants 0-2 CMC artifact creatures and some 3 CMC artifact creatures more than the rest.
- Cut: Ramos, Dragon Engine
- Cut: Slither Blade, Triton Shorestalker, Fetid Imp, Neurok Familiar
- Cut: Parish-Blade Trainee, Gixian Skullflayer, Gryff Rider
- Cut: Naiad of Hidden Coves, Whispering Wizard, Cryptic Serpent
Some of these creatures may be added back in later, most likely not, but for now lets build the creature base with only artifact creatures. For making upgrades lets look at best cards here with Urza and build around them? Arcbound Ravager and Portal to Phyrexia are the two best cards here with Urza because they're artifacts and they're abilities are more powerful compared to most other cards here. Ravager brings the aggro, but if aggro doesn't do it and you need more reach to win the game then Portal can do that. Lets start with Ravager and what makes it better with Urza? Modular and you have some here, more one drops can help toward Urza's artifact creature affinity and Ravager.
- Add: Ornithopter, Vault Skirge, Arcbound Javelineer, Arcbound Mouser, Swooping Lookout
- Add: Steel Overseer, Baleful Strix, Triarch Praetorian, Malcator's Watcher
- Add: Silas Renn, Seeker Adept, Armix, Filigree Thrasher, Scrapyard Recombiner
Steel Overseer adds to the +1/+1 counter strategy, it's powerful but only for artifact creatures and if trying to be aggro it's a good reason to play very few nonartifact creatures. Silas Renn, Seeker Adept goes well with Arcbound Ravager since with Ravager you want to sac artifacts and Silas lets you cast an artifact from your graveyard. It's deathtouch combined with Urza's menace makes it a creature who opponent is not going to block and lose two or more creatures blocking it. Baleful Strix, Triarch Praetorian, Malcator's Watcher are two drop artifact creatures who fly and who draw when enter the battlefield (ETB) or dies.
Some artifacts here are worse than others.
- Cut: Veteran's Powerblade, Spellbook
- Cut: Journeyer's Kite, Pristine Talisman
- Cut: Reconstructed Thopter, Burnished Hart
Think about limiting the amount of nonartifact spells to just the better ones you have here?
- Cut: Involuntary Cooldown, Weakstone's Subjugation, Curse of Echoes
- Cut: Disfigure, Curate, Scatter Ray, Cancel
Equipment that increases the equipped creature's power equal to the amount of artifacts you control really ups the aggro since then any little artifact creature can become huge which combined with menace can make it a great attacker. I see Silver Myr and it's good here since counts twice for Urza, artifact creature affinity and ramp. Consider adding more artifact creature mana dorks who can make colored mana?
The budget Signets can help for ramp as well as color fixing which is really needed because the manabase here is pretty much all basic lands. Arcane Signet is a staple budget mana rock for ramp in Commander. Chromatic Lantern is fine for color fixing, but you're going to want more than that.
Some nonartifact creatures at the beginning of the mana curve can really help aggro and Urza.
Losheel, Clockwork Scholar is powerful with artifact creatures when attacking is what you want to be doing especially Constructs. Your artifact creatures don't take damage in combat meaning that opponents will have a difficult time choosing to block since their blockers might die, but your creatures will be fine. Losheel is also repeatable draw, once on each players turn when an artifact creature ETB you draw this includes when a Construct is created by Urza if you didn't have an artifact creature ETB before your end step.
Sai, Master Thopterist can be a repeatable source of artifact creatures, Thopters, to be attackers or sac fodder. Emry, Lurker of the Loch is like Silas Renn, Seeker Adept more ways to cast artifacts from your graveyard is good with Arcbound Ravager and other sac outlets.
That's it for this comment, but if you're still interested I'll give advice about the high end of the mana curve here to take more advantage of aggro into mid game and Portal to Phyrexia late game as well as some budget land options for the manabase. Would you like more advice?
Good luck with your deck.
8 months ago
Hey, good upgrades to the precon, what you've done so far.
How do you want to win? Determining the main strategy you want to play can help to keep good cards for that strategy and cut unnecessary cards. If you're wanting to keep precon level budget then doing combat damage with Constructs and Commander damage with Urza are directions to consider. Research Thief and Bident of Thassa are excellent budget cards if you want to be attacking with Constructs. Making Urza an artifact makes him a reliable source of Commander damage, but this means including effects to make Urza an artifact.
You have Urza, Lord High Artificer, he's a combo wincon, but to use him as a wincon you'll want to add other cards and more ways to assemble the combo. Drawing cards from Constructs doing combat damage to opponents is a good alternative to playing expensive price tutors to get combo pieces in your hand.
You have Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge, you don't really need Mycosynth Golem especially not for it's price tag. You don't need this Tezzeret either, but if you have it might as well play it. The first cuts to consider are lands since 41 lands is a lot when the strategy here are artifacts. Consider cutting 6 lands? Lands that always ETB tapped and are worse then others that also do this. If you feel you need more mana then add mana sources (rocks, dorks) not lands.
- Orzhov Basilica, Azorius Chancery, Dimir Aqueduct
- Temple of Silence, Temple of Deceit, Temple of Enlightenment
The Bounce lands and Scry lands are worse always ETB tapped lands then Tri lands, Bridges, etc.
Some advice for more cuts is choose the top 20 creatures here, top 10 artifacts and top 10 other nonland cards. By choosing the best cards then you can cut a huge chunk away of lesser cards.
- Urza, Lord High Artificer
- Research Thief
- Losheel, Clockwork Scholar
- Thought Monitor, Ethersworn Sphinx
- Ornithopter of Paradise, Etherium Sculptor
- Phyrexian Metamorph
- Spellskite, Padeem, Consul of Innovation
- Ethersworn Canonist
- Baleful Strix
- Hangarback Walker, Sai, Master Thopterist
- Steel Overseer
- Armix, Filigree Thrasher
- Emry, Lurker of the Loch, Sharuum the Hegemon
- The Reality Chip, Lion Sash
- Sol Ring
- Arcane Signet, Chromatic Lantern
- Liquimetal Torque
- Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Hierarchy
- Swiftfoot Boots
- Cranial Plating, Shadowspear
- Strionic Resonator
- Their Name is Death, Phyrexian Scriptures
- The Flesh is Weak
- Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge
- Artificer Class
- Austere Command
- Void Rend
- Swords to Plowshares
- Dovin's Veto
For upgrading it's easier to get an established list that's not 99 cards then have a list that's way over 99 cards. Really any 0-3 drop artifact creature who can make some value to take advantage of Urza artifact creature affinity or any 0-2 drop mana rock for more ramp can fill unfilled deck spots.
Good luck with your deck.
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9 months ago
Hey, good upgrades to the precon on a semi budget.
Staff of Domination in your graveyard is a card that breaks Trazyn the Infinite because it allows to repeatedly untap Trazyn for only 1 mana each time. Use this with any mana rock in your graveyard that can tap for more than one mana: Sol Ring, Basalt Monolith, Thran Dynamo, Worn Powerstone to make infinite mana. With infinite mana then use Staff to draw as much of your library as you want. Sceptre of Eternal Glory if you control three basic Swamps allows for infinite black mana + draw from Staff to draw and cast as many cards as you want.
Scarecrone is another excellent upgrade, you can take advantage of it with Imotekh + Wingrattle Scarecrow for repeatable draw + Necrons because Wingrattle is an artifact and a Scarecrow. It has persist, when it dies it returns to the battlefield after first entering the graveyard. A returned persist creature gets a -1/-1 counter, but you can remove the counter with a +1/+1 counter allowing the creature to persist again.
Thran Vigil enablers repeatable persist and it has other uses too because outside of the combo other artifacts are leaving your graveyard to trigger Imotekh. Steel Overseer can remove -1/-1 counter while also putting a +1/+1 on all other artifact creatures you control which can be a helpful repeatable effect with 2/2 Necrons.
Some changes to consider:
- Myr Battlesphere --> Technomancer
- Staff of Domination --> Plasmancer
- Wingrattle Scarecrow --> Necron Overlord
- Thran Vigil --> Haunting Voyage
- Steel Overseer --> Royal Warden
- Thran Dynamo --> Thought Vessel
- Basalt Monolith --> Temple of the False God
Technomancer is subpar for 7 mana, can only return artifact creatures and they all return at the same time only triggering Imotekh once. Plasmancer only gets a basic Swamp and it's only put into your hand not onto the battlefield, thats not very good for 4 mana.
Necron Overlord, for 4 mana and have to tap artifacts you would think it would hit all opponents, but it doesn't only one opponent makes this effect not worth it. Haunting Voyage, there's a lot of nonNecron creatures here making this inconsistent in what it can reanimate for 6 or 7 mana.
Thought Vessel gives you no max hand size, but that effect doesn't help you, you want to be able to discard hand down to 7 cards, that helps to get artifacts into your graveyard for Imotekh. Temple of the False God is a terrible land especially when you have none or very few land ramp effects, you don't need it. A land that can't tap for mana in the early game or even mid game is unplayable.
Good luck with your deck.
9 months ago
Update: -Marionette Master / +Cyberdrive Awakener -Machine God's Effigy / +Imotekh the Stormlord -Blasphemous Act / +Their Name is Death -Disciple of the Vault / +Steel Overseer -Reverse Engineer / +Losheel, Clockwork Scholar -Bedevil / +Void Rend -Temple of Malice / +Cryptothrall -Temple of Enlightenment / +Optimus Prime, Hero Flip -Temple of Deceit / +Thirst for Knowledge -Temple of Epiphany / +Shivan Reef
Notes: I chose Cryptothrall over Spellskite because they serve the same function, to protect your stuff, but Cryptothrall requires less effort. I put in Optimus because I wanted to experiment with him. Lastly, I'm keeping Austere Command in the deck since I like to have a board wipe that hits enchantments and artifacts.
9 months ago
Hey, interesting version, but you're building your deck with combo mindset without having the last combo piece to win... Building this way could hinder gameplay since you don't want to win with combo? If you're avoiding infinite combos then I presume attacking is main wincon? Consider more effects to make Breya a better attacker and adding board wipe(s) that don't destroy artifact creatures? These wipes pair extremely well with Biotransference.
- Cyberdrive Awakener --> Marionette Master
- Imotekh the Stormlord --> Machine God's Effigy
- Organic Extinction --> Blasphemous Act
- Steel Overseer --> Disciple of the Vault
- Their Name is Death --> Austere Command
- Losheel, Clockwork Scholar --> Reverse Engineer
- Cranial Plating --> Mycosynth Wellspring
If reanimating and recurring artifacts is a strategy then consider Imotekh the Stormlord? It also can make Breya a good attacker, 6/6 with menace. Marionette Master and Disciple of the Vault are subpar if they aren't the wincon of a combo. They can only hit one opponent at a time which is not as good outside of combo compared to Reckless Fireweaver who hits each opponent and Mayhem Devil who can hit any target.
Consider cutting a few lands? The Tri lands, Bridges and Temples all in the same manabase is a lot of lands that always ETB tapped. Of these the Temples are the lesser lands since Bridges are artifacts and Tri lands more color fixing.
- Spellskite --> Temple of Malice
- Counterspell --> Temple of Enlightenment
- Thirst for Knowledge --> Temple of Deceit
- Shivan Reef --> Temple of Epiphany
- Void Rend --> Bedevil
Good luck with your deck.