- 1x Adorned Pouncer
- 1x Aurelia, the Warleader
- 1x Balan, Wandering Knight
- 1x Bastion Protector
- 1x Benevolent Bodyguard
- 1x Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder
- 1x Generator Servant
- 1x Hope of Ghirapur
- 1x Kami of False Hope
- 1x Magus of the Wheel
- 1x Mirran Crusader
- 1x Mother of Runes
- 1x Puresteel Paladin
- 1x Ranger of Eos
- 1x Recruiter of the Guard
- 1x Relic Seeker
- 1x Restoration Specialist
- 1x Selfless Spirit
- 1x Serra Ascendant
- 1x Silverblade Paladin
- 1x Stoneforge Mystic
- 1x Stonehewer Giant
- 1x Sublime Archangel
- 1x Sun Titan
- 1x Argentum Armor
- 1x Basilisk Collar
- 1x Boros Signet
- 1x Champion's Helm
- 1x Dowsing Dagger
- 1x Inquisitor's Flail
- 1x Loxodon Warhammer
- 1x Mana Crypt
- 1x Mana Vault
- 1x Memory Jar
- 1x O-Naginata
- 1x Scroll Rack
- 1x Sol Ring
- 1x Static Orb
- 1x Sunforger
- 1x Swiftfoot Boots
- 1x Sword of Feast and Famine
- 1x Sword of Fire and Ice
- 1x Sword of the Animist
- 1x Umezawa's Jitte
- 1x Winter Orb
- 1x Ancient Den
- 1x Ancient Tomb
- 1x Arid Mesa
- 1x Battlefield Forge
- 1x Boros Garrison
- 1x City of Brass
- 1x Clifftop Retreat
- 1x Command Beacon
- 1x Command Tower
- 1x Great Furnace
- 1x Inspiring Vantage
- 1x Kor Haven
- 1x Mana Confluence
- 4x Mountain
- 1x Needle Spires
- 12x Plains
- 1x Plateau
- 1x Rugged Prairie
- 1x Sacred Foundry
- 1x Spire of Industry
- 1x Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
- 1x Boros Charm
- 1x Enlightened Tutor
- 1x Onward / Victory
- 1x Path to Exile
- 1x Return to Dust
- 1x Temur Battle Rage
- 1x Unexpectedly Absent
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August 5, 2017 1 p.m.
Now that I've compiled a complete beta test list, could I get your opinion?
Akiri, line-slinger assault please excuse the not witty title
August 5, 2017 5:19 p.m.
feyn_do_alduin: I'll come by and give it a quick look. Work has been brutal lately, though, so I haven't been online much, sorry :(
August 9, 2017 12:50 a.m.
JankimusPrime: If you're looking to adjust this into midrange/control, the new Teferi's Protection spell is right up your alley!
I'm considering it in by build as well :) Thoughts?
August 12, 2017 1:25 p.m.
you know, the cats deck has two new really cool pieces of equipment that's worth investing in!
the first, hammer of such and such, auto equips on ETB and makes it so other equipment do the same
The next one is an axe that clones itself on attack! gives +2/+0 equip 1* (needs confirmation) and each clone his an exact copy of the first including the cloning ability
August 13, 2017 7:59 a.m.
feyn_do_alduin: I don't think I'm going to use the auto-equip hammer (too much mana for its effect), but I love that cloning axe!
August 13, 2017 12:05 p.m.
what do you mean? it auto equips itself. and every piece of equipment you cast after it, whether its attached or not, for 4c. not at all too much mana imho.
August 13, 2017 12:55 p.m.
feyn_do_alduin: Sure, but Puresteel Paladin and Sigarda's Aid do it much better. And I don't think the +2/indestructible is extremely good (given that it's 4 to reequip after the first time), but we'll see.
I adore the Bloodforged War Axe with Puresteel Paladin tho!
August 13, 2017 1:56 p.m.
lol i agree on the synergy of Puresteel Paladin and bloodforged axe! but the same synergy exists between the hammer and the axe, infact it's better in that the hammer forces equiping at instant speed at no additional charge, in the same way Sigarda's Aid does
I, for one, am certain to attempt running both. because on their own, each is really good. together, it's nuts.
August 13, 2017 3:47 p.m.
Thoughts on Darksteel Plate over Inquisitors Flail(or another equip)? Or do you find you have enough protection for Avacyn from the two hexproof artifacts/pumping her up.
August 15, 2017 1:09 a.m.
i see a mox opal in your deck is it maybe also intresting for the people who want to play this deck to play a chrome mox ?
August 15, 2017 9:36 a.m.
Agieryna: I've...considered it before. It used to be in the deck, but it was pretty slow - it doesn't matter if Avacyn survives if I die to a combo, after all. So I pulled it out. If I was going to make this into more a midrange control list, I'd windmill-slam it in ;) I do have some good protection (Mother of Runes and friends) in addition to the hexproof, though.
TzickyT: Honestly, I'm not a fan of Chrome Mox outside of fast combo decks. The loss of card advantage is BRUTAL in Boros colors...I would not suggest that substitution unless you're very, very desperate.
August 16, 2017 10:34 p.m.
So i talked to the people at chat.magicjudges.org. When a non-angel token dies with avacyn out triggering her to transform on your next upkeep. During that upkeep you can let her transform into the purifier and then with her "deal 3 damage" trigger on the stack you can cast Teferi's Protection. If the protection resolves all your creatures will phase out and be protected from the 3 damage but it will still hit your opponent and all of their creatures.
August 30, 2017 1:04 p.m.
Holy Heliod, this is still getting attention on here? I dont think Ive seen a deck stick around this long on this site before. I remember stumbling across this deck right when it was posted. They grow up so fast :P
September 3, 2017 9:55 p.m.
jimh925: It's true, that's definitely a thing you can do :) I personally prefer indestructibility as a way to get around it, though. I'm not personally a fan of Teferi's Protection; I think people are far overestimating its capabilities.
readerrw07: Hehehe, doing my best ;)
September 4, 2017 1:07 p.m.
Hi there, just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to make this primer. I've only recently started playing MTG and found it really useful.Although I love the style the deck has I don't seem to be playing very well with it, I think it is due to most people seeing me as a threat and I always seem to get targeted rather quickly! (which isn't much of a problem as it makes it more fun)
I had a few thoughts about some alterations... I would really appreciate your feedback.
For sunforger mainly (see below), but also could be used to put essential equipment back into the deck to be tutored out again, the Tithe would increase chances of getting the Mistveil and could also be fetched with sunforger.Would the loss of the land be a problem here? Should I try and add 1 basic land back in or does the extra land tutor negate this?
Sunforger kit, with the above I thought I could add more targets for the sunforger. Here is a list of what I'm currently thinking.
- Tithe - as mentioned above
- Wild Ricochet - Works as a 'sort of' counterspell... sometimes works out better than one :))
- Lapse of Certainty - Again, another counter - Could allow you (or other players) to plan for it to come up again... or just try and get the kill?
- Dawn Charm - I put this in thinking it would counter a spell aimed at either me or a permanent I control... it does not. :) could still be useful though?
- Comeuppance - This card is so much fun...Counters some finishers such as Aetherflux Reservoir (or even kill them) It can also turn an all in attack of creatures into a board wipe :)
- Faith's Reward - Could either be used after Avacyn flips or I think more importantly after a mass removal targetted at our artifacts.
Do you think this is too much? Will this slow the tempo of the deck down too much? I think at the very least Comeuppance should be included. The Tithe only needs to be if you think Mistveil Plains is a good idea.
If the loss of land is ok, I still need to find 3 slots for the cards I am running. Any suggestions on what I should cut?
Thank you again!
Ps. I play only on MTGO... not sure if that changes things :)
September 8, 2017 11:09 a.m.
Holonomic: Thank you for your thoughts! :)
Adding more to the Sunforger package is definitely an option for this list. Your options are a bit more control-focused than mine are, but it could work. (Though I feel I should mention that Onward / Victory cannot be tutored by Sunforger, unfortunately - it now has CMC 6 in your library.)
Some other potential options are a Glorious End/Angel's Grace pair, to get an effective extra turn, or Teferi's Protection if you like that card (I don't). If you focus heavily on Sunforger, then Tithe/Mistveil Plains is a great option, but I didn't want to rely too much on a single card in the 99 (and they're both generally pretty bad outside of their synergy with Sunforger).
TLDR: If you focus heavily on Sunforger it WILL slow the tempo of your deck. However, it also allows you more protection and interaction. If you want to go this route, your changes seem very solid, but you might want to include Leonin Shikari to be able to tutor more than 1 thing per turn ;) Just make sure you don't cripple the deck too much when finding slots...
September 10, 2017 2:43 p.m.
I've built the deck and played with it for a while. This deck is awesome. I've had a game where my opponent went back to full life from single digit after resolving a Resolute Archangel, and he immediately died getting smacked by an Aurelia wearing Argentum Armor and wielding Inquisitor's Flail.
That being said, I've had a hard time recovering after an artifact boardwipe. Creature boardwipes are manageable, but I often find myself in an unwinnable situation after an opponent resolves their Bane of Progress, Vandalblast, or Merciless Eviction. Cards like Boros Charm helps, but you don't always have access to it when you need it. What's your strategy for protecting your equipments against mass artifact removals?
September 12, 2017 4:07 a.m.
Maybe I missed it but do you have recommendations on which cards to remove if one were to bring in the mass LD package? I'm interested in this deck but in my meta the only way a Boros deck could survive is with effects like Armageddon or Blood Moon.
September 13, 2017 4:19 a.m.
Kvad: Part of that is just an inherent weakness in voltron archetypes, I'm afraid :( You could also run Teferi's Protection as a backup if you wanted. Beyond that, you could make your first tutor Sunforger so you always have access to Boros Charm. And finally, there's always the option of not overextending (keeping an equipment or two in hand anticipating the rest of them being lost).
Generally speaking, I find that if my start was fast enough, I can still reasonably win through normal combat damage, though. Serra Ascendant and Avacyn, the Purifier Flip have high power inherently, and most of the double strike granters aren't artifacts.
I hope that helps! :)
September 17, 2017 12:20 p.m.
September 17, 2017 12:22 p.m.
what do you think of Tyrant of Discord token decks have a presence at my LGS
September 17, 2017 12:32 p.m.
feyn_do_alduin: WAY WAY WAY too much mana to be effective. If you want to deal with a token deck, you could use Eye of Singularity or Declaration in Stone (which doesn't give clues if it hits tokens).
September 17, 2017 12:34 p.m.
still a funny and annoying way to deal with people
September 17, 2017 12:47 p.m.
Just popping in to check the upvote count. Jeez lol
September 17, 2017 1:19 p.m.
First off, I am in love with this deck! Very well done; it seems like a work of art. I really want to build this deck, but I am constraining myself to a ~$250 budget. I'd still like it to be as competitive as possible for that pricepoint, although I acknowledge that I'll have to make sacrifices until I can acquire some of the better cards. I am thinking that the best way for me to keep it competitive at this lower price point is to run the MLD package (unless you think it would be stronger without it). I would be very grateful for any insight you could offer.
1) Based on your response to someone else, you recommended removing Aggravated Assault and Argentum Armor for Ruination and Cataclysm. You also recommended removing Gift of Immortality for Armageddon, but to be honest, I am having such a hard time making that cut because of all the synergy that Gift has with the creatures in this deck. Is that really the best cut to make room for it?
2) I've made the following budget changes to your list to fit within my constraints, but I would love to hear your feedback about my changes and if I ended up going off the rails and altering it too much. I will provide a link to my list below, but the summary of changes I made are as follows:
I know some of those inclusions might seem a bit janky. My thought process was that, since Land Tax and Scroll Rack are a draw engine, I would replace them with Rogue's Gloves and Mask of Memory, which also draw. In place of the 3 mana rocks I cut, I swapped them with Mind Stone, Star Compass, and Worn Powerstone. Finally, I substituted Memory Jar with Reforge the Soul, which has a similar wheel effect for the same cmc (or less with miracle), and I substituted Wheel of Fortune with Chandra Ablaze (mini wheel that will probably get value from forcing opponents to discard larger hands and draw to 3). I substituted the sword of fire and ice with the scythe, because that sword generates value, which the scythe seems to come the closest to replicating for a cheaper price (the only difference being that I get to summon the blocking creature instead of drawing a card and pinging something for 2).
Do these sound like reasonable changes to preserve the spirit of the deck? If you have other suggestions, I am definitely open to hearing them.
My decklist: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/avacyn-the-purifier-budget/
October 15, 2017 7:07 p.m.
jakethewhale007: Thank you for your interest in the deck! :)
The MLD package is definitely helpful, although I feel I owe you a warning that it WILL draw a lot of hate from most playgroups.
Of your changes, I'd probably run Armageddon or Alms Collector over Chandra Ablaze: she's somewhat disappointing out of red spellslinger IMO. I'd also consider running Coldsteel Heart over Star Compass (since it lets you mana fix), and Dowsing Dagger Flip as an additional source of ramp/power. I'd also use Lightning Greaves over Mask of Avacyn - I'm aware of the downsides of shroud, but I suspect the free equip is good enough in your variant of the list to overcome that. The rest of the changes seem very reasonable :)
I hope that helps :)
October 16, 2017 12:23 p.m.
Thank you so much for your response! You've definitely given me some things to think about, and I can't believe I forgot about Coldsteel Heart haha. I really like your dowsing dagger suggestion! I think I will end up splurging a little after all (as I typically do when I get really excited about a commander deck haha), so I probably won't have to cut as much as I initially thought. I'll play around with the budget list and let you know where I land. At this point, it's probably gonna be more like $350.
October 17, 2017 2:38 p.m.
jakethewhale007: Keep me in the loop! :) I love this deck, and I hope it treats you as well as it has treated me.
October 17, 2017 3:25 p.m.
Hey there Daedalus! I decided to increase my budget slightly, from $250 to $290. However, as a result, the overall cuts I had to make were very minimal! Luckily, I was able to find some good deals on ebay and tcgplayer haha. Anyway, here is how my list currently stands when compared to yours:
I've also cut some of the non-basic lands you were running in favor of more basics (mostly for budget reasons + Ruination synergy). I'd really like to hear your thoughts on these changes and make any adjustments as necessary based on your response. I am considering swapping Coldsteel Heart for, say, Mind Stone or Worn Powerstone, but I thought Coldsteel seemed better for the fixing. Dowsing Dagger seems pretty sweet, especially when I can combo it with MLD. It would be an epic play to destroy all lands, then transform the dagger afterwards. I'm just curious as to whether I should include a Mind Stone or Worn Powerstone (or other rock) in its place.
Thank you so much for your time reading this! My decklist is below in case you would prefer to see it in that layout. :)
Oh, and I appreciate the warning about the dangers of running MLD. However, my playgroup is very understanding and open to all strategies, so I know they won't be salty. Also, one of my friends plays a Kess Extra Turns deck, and the other plays a Baral deck filled to the brim with counterspells... so as far as I'm concerned, the MLD is justified to cleanse them of their sin :)
Overall, I am super excited that I was able to build what seems to be a pretty close version of your deck on a sub-$300 budget. I can't wait to purify my next EDH game! :) Thanks again for your help, I appreciate it so much.
October 18, 2017 3:41 a.m.
jakethewhale007: Those sound like great changes! I'd definitely keep the Coldsteel Heart and the Dowsing Dagger Flip, though :) Have fun purifying your opponents' sins!! Glad to help cleanse another playgroup ;)
I'm in class at the moment, but I'll check over your list more closely in a few hours :)
October 18, 2017 12:49 p.m.
I've been playing your list for a couple of weeks now and it has been an absolute blast to play. Only difference is I run Imperial Recruiter as it gives me another way to tutor the low cmc creatures that really make this deck tick. I assume his omission from your list is financially motivated given his cost, but it has been great having some redundancy in case I don't find Recruiter of the Guard.
October 24, 2017 6:06 p.m.
October 24, 2017 10:04 p.m.
gdm1989: Well, Elbrus, the Binding Blade Flip has a black color identity, so I can't play it. I did play Bloodforged Battle-Axe for a little while, and honestly I'm torn. The card was great in the right circumstances - particularly when I controlled Puresteel Paladin - but proved slightly inconsistent. I'd like to put it back in, but I'm not sure what to cut TBH. I also want to find space for Mask of Memory, but slots are tight...
October 25, 2017 9:29 a.m.
I thought it would have been labeled as colorless in the rulings guess I was wrong =/
October 25, 2017 10:59 a.m.
i did maybe a few changes on your deck but i m wondering if my changes are decent enough between your deck and mine? ATP copy from Daedalus19876
- changes i did
- Elspeth, Knight-Errant vs Nahiri, the Lithomancer
- Wheel of Fortune vs Reforge the Soul
- Scroll Rack vs Hammer of Nazahn
basicly its almost the same deck but just a few other cards
October 25, 2017 11:14 a.m.
gdm1989: Unfortunately for Elbrus, the Binding Blade Flip, color identity is the union of the color identities of the two sides of a Double Faced Card. Same as Avacyn, actually - she's Boros because of her back side, and Elbrus is black for the same reason. (To be clear, this is color identity, not color.)
TzickyT: Those seem like pretty decent changes :) Wheel of Fortune has gotten less affordable over time. Scroll Rack is great with Land Tax, obviously, but I understand if you want something more Equipment-focussed in its place. And I really do like Elspeth, Knight-Errant, but the removal given by Nahiri, the Harbinger is very handy.
October 25, 2017 12:47 p.m.
This is my dream deck since the first time i found this in TappedOut almost a years ago, i'm always wish to build this deck in one day and my dream comes true on last month, after i'm try on this deck and what that i'm feel is this deck is so COMPETITIVE(or IMBA!?) and i'm just like 1vs3 in a multiplayer game and still able to dominate the game... xD
Thanks for making this deck and i'm appreciated. I'm believe this will always be the TOP - Boros Avacyn - deck in TappedOut!
After reading the comment above, i'm want to ask your opinion for swap Memory Jar to Reforge the SoulBoth cost same mana cost but for Reforge the Soul i don't have to discard the card i draw when at the end of turn, so do you think is it Reforge the Soul is better than Memory Jar?
October 27, 2017 2:04 a.m.
AioriaxWingz: I'm so glad that I could inspire you!! Did you build the deck identically to mine? If not, I'd love to hear your thoughts about changes :)
I think this will forever be the top Boros Avacyn deck on T/O :D In fact, it's currently the 7th highest EDH deck of all time, and nearly overtaking the 6th!!
Re:Memory Jar/Reforge the Soul - I do prefer Memory Jar somewhat, because I can usually cast the whole new hand in one turn while my opponents don't actually get any value. The issue with Wheels in general is that you give your opponents advantage as well as getting your own cards, and Memory Jar avoids this.
Hope that helps explain :)
October 27, 2017 12:24 p.m.
you know, after extensive play ive discovered numerous absurd ways of dealing high damage within the early turns. I was playing against a ydris deck last night, and booped him for 18 damage on T5, forcing him to bloat his board with non-sense.
I think there's something to be said about psychological warfare and it's effectiveness in disrupting/pressuring your opponents
October 27, 2017 7:20 p.m.
My - Issues i had with the deck ( at my place )
Mostly i only drew Equipments and when i drew a creature it was eitherway blown up or gone with the wind when i was attacking. poorly enough much exile and -1/-1 players at my locals that night
in the games i played i felt like i wasn't getting any creatures out with the problem of above. so when i had Sunforger on the field and could make it work to go off it was basicly useless couse totaly no protection in the later game i had from it
also the feeling i have to concider is maybe putting in Heliod, God of the Sun to basicly have at least one creature on the field that can do something.
Also i myself started to run both Nahiri and Elspeth. couse both are basicly verry important in my oppinion in the deck. they die fast but its possible to keep a steady space between my planeswakers and my lifepoints.
pretty hard considering Chaos Warp in the deck to basicly have some more protection to the deck
October 29, 2017 7:13 a.m.
I know you have a lot of experience playing the deck at this point, so this suggestion might be easily countered.
I noticed you have a few wheels and 20+% artifacts in the deck, why not scrap mastery? Or if they wipe the board it's too late at that point?
November 2, 2017 5:54 p.m.
feyn_do_alduin: I agree! This deck can be very, very aggressive (and terrifying to play against). I've hit people for 36 damage on T3 before - there's a reason that, while this isn't my most competitive deck, it's certainly my most feared at my LGS.
TzickyT: Yeah, I'm afraid that's a classic problem with voltron decks. If you don't have a creature to suit up, your equipment sits around being sad. You could try Haunted Plate Mail or something, or something like Mobilization (which I think is better than Heliod) if you have problems with this a lot.
Gearlyons: Honestly? I've considered it before, and played it for a while. It's not currently in the list because I find it slightly situational, but I could definitely see the case for its inclusion :) What would you cut for it?
November 15, 2017 2:22 p.m.
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