Chainer, Dementia Master

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Torment (TOR) Rare

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Chainer, Dementia Master

Legendary Creature — Human Minion

Nightmare creatures get +1/+1.

, Pay 3 life: Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. That creature is black and is a Nightmare in addition to its other creature types.

When Chainer, Dementia Master leaves the battlefield, exile all Nightmares.

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Chainer, Dementia Master Discussion

DangoDaikazoku on Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

1 week ago

HezTheGod if you could please elaborate a bit and/or provide lists instead of just making the suggestions it would be greatly appreciated for us as well as the mods to understand your reasoning. I agree that Godo Helm could qualify as competitive, and mods have stated earlier that his placement is in the process of being reassessed. I also agree that Grand Warlord Radha is comparable to Ruric Thar, the Unbowed for a Stax list, but I can't say for certain where I would place either of them. Arjun, the Shifting Flame Storm seems good, but I honestly have never seen it in action to have an opinion on it. I did look over your Arjun list though, and think it looks well tuned and I somewhat understand the gameplan and win-con, but I can see how it could fit in either mid-power or high-power. From what I've seen, Chainer, Dementia Master typically runs the classic big mana Exsanguinate and Torment of Hailfire win condition commonly ran in mono-black decks, and I find that playstyle very similar to my Toshiro Umezawa deck coupled into the same category. Mid-tier seems appropriate, but I'm still open to discussion on your opinions on all these commander suggestions because I'm not in complete agreement with you.

HezTheGod on Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

1 week ago

some changes I would make:

Godo, Bandit Warlord >> Competitive

Grand Warlord Radha >> Competitive

Arjun, the Shifting Flame >> High Power

Chainer, Dementia Master >> High Power

BurtReynolds on Naked Lunch

2 weeks ago

Hmmm, as always it's easier to deal out the recommendations than suggesting actual cuts. As you say, all the current cards are looking pretty tight, but if I had to nominate some:

BurtReynolds on Naked Lunch

2 weeks ago

I feel like there are a couple of nice combos that you already have most of the pieces for but are just missing one or two cards that would work well in the deck as non-combo pieces anyway.

Adding Nim Deathmantle would give you:

Further adding Geralf's Messenger and/or Abhorrent Overlord/Wurmcoil Engine would then also give you:

Abhorrent Overlord/Wurmcoil Engine comes with the bonus:

Of course for any of these sac/recursion loops, adding your already included Blood Artist gives you life drain/gain, Altar of the Brood will mill your opponents, and Grave Pact clears the board

ballesta25 on Kambal, Consul of Allocating Gains

4 weeks ago

Exquisite Blood is an infinite combo with several of the cards in your deck (Sanguine Bond, Cliffhaven Vampire, ...). It's kinda expensive, but even if you don't want to pick up a copy, you should know about it so you know why if everyone tries to destroy your Sanguine Bond.

Words of Worship is a rather bizarre old card (there's a whole cycle) that lets you pay {1} to gain 5 life instead of drawing a card. In most circumstances, that's a bad trade, even in a dedicated life-gain deck, but it lets you survive if you've been milled out, and sometimes you just need one more lifegain trigger. It's main use is to be super fun with things like Well of Lost Dreams ("Instead of drawing this card, I'll gain life and also draw cards!") Sadly, you don't have blue in your color identity, so you can't play Drogskol Reaver, but for redundant copies of that effect, you do get Dawn of Hope once Guilds of Ravnica releases and even Lich's Mastery if you're crazy enough. (I don't recommend Lich's Mastery in EDH - Cyclonic Rift or Bane of Progress type effects are too common.)

You may want more token produces for your soul sisters. Martial Coup seems like a good include because you can use it to make tokens or as a board wipe.

This deck could use some more ways to spend life for value. Arguel's Blood Fast  Flip, Phyrexian Reclamation, Tymna the Weaver, Vona, Butcher of Magan, Chainer, Dementia Master Razaketh, the Foulblooded, and Necropotence all let you trade life for other resources and are mostly fairly budget. I would recommend including a few effects of that sort.

Blood Tithe and Remorseless Punishment seem low-impact in Commander: everyone starts with a lot of life so hitting everyone for 3 or one player for 10 in a non-repeatable way doesn't accomplish that much.

Gadianten on Rule #2: The Double Tap v2.0

1 month ago

Don't fight the self mill and discard, embrace it and use things like Balthor the Defiled, Zombie Apocalypse and Living Death. In short consider things that mass reanimate and cards with madness such as From Under the Floorboards or Frantic Purification, flashback like Unburial Rites or Army of the Damned also delve with things like Dig Through Time, Temporal Trespass and Treasure Cruise.

Other creatures that transform your graveyard into an extended hand are things like Phyrexian Delver, Chainer, Dementia Master, Havengul Lich, Coffin Queen and Dralnu, Lich Lord, although care must be taken when utilizing him. I CANNOT state enough how useful Havengul Lich is, he IS obscene with Rooftop Storm... and Sidisi, Undead Vizier. While it does not play things from your graveyard Wonder can be nasty, so many flying zombies.

If you meta has any similarities to mine then you may have issues keeping Rooftop Storm, besides counter magic the best way I have found to get around enchantment hate and it getting milled is Crystal Chimes and Academy Ruins. On that note this commander is also a prime candidate for Crucible of Worlds.

I don't know if you knew this trick or not but Zombie Trailblazer does not ADD swamp to the land type but rather makes the land a swamp and ONLY a swamp so if you have enough tokens and your opponent is not black you can easily lock them out of their colors.

Looks like fun +1

joecool1299 on Toshiro's Murder

1 month ago

Always nice to see another Toshiro deck. Budget too!

I really really, really don’t like Cremate in this style of deck. I get the idea, it’s kinda like Think Twice but it’s not really worth it. Commander cards really need to do something and Cremate doesn’t do enough. If you want better card draw, Dark Bargain and Moonlight Bargain is much better. If you want graveyard hate Suffer the Past and Crypt Incursion are good in this deck.

Terror is cute but how about Cast Down, Ghastly Demise, or Vendetta?

Grave Betrayal is cute but it’s really expensive.

Chainer, Dementia Master is awesome. Some board states become auto wins with Chainer in play and if you really need a creature back, you can kill it easily.

I will throw out Illness in the Ranks seems loose. It really only works if you get both it and Orchard in play and that seems a bit magical Christmas land-y. I personally wouldn’t play it but that’s just me.

Oh! Isolated Watchtower and Arcane Lighthouse. Virtually No downside and gives you an out to hexproof creatures.

Kogarashi on lose life to win

2 months ago

You're off to a decent start, I'd say. Your curve looks good, though you're mana base is a bit weak at the moment (you should be running about 40 land for consistency). Some commentary as I took notes:

Heliod, God of the Sun doesn't seem to fit with the overall theme of the deck. You'd be better off with a card that will give you lifelink creatures or something, to help offset the life-loss from your various effects. Whip of Erebos would be my pick for this deck.

Blood Tribute is going to want more vampires, which are kind of slim in your deck at the moment.

Brainspoil is...poor removal. I would remove it. Killing Wave, on the other hand, is a good choice for sweep, and Remorseless Punishment and Temporal Extortion are nice. I like Near-Death Experience as an alternate win-con, but Path of Bravery is going to hamper that, especially since you don't appear to have super-consistent lifegain.

You have...two? infect cards. I would remove them since infect is really an alternate win-con that you aren't geared toward. Diseased Vermin might make for an alternate rat if you must have a rat, especially if you can give it evasion somehow, and it works with lifelink. It's not a strong pick for the deck, though.

Knight-Captain of Eos wants more soldiers. There are quite a few vampire soldiers, and some of them would work well in this deck. Vicious Conquistador is one that works with your theme.

Seekers' Squire doesn't really seem to fit any of your themes.

Wall of Shards short-circuits your life-drain by giving increasingly large amounts of life to opponents. You don't need it. I would also skip the Hyena Umbra and Hatred.

As for further suggestions, things with Extort are good. There's always the Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond combo, which can also use Vizkopa Guildmage in place of Sanguine Bond.

Other suggestions:

Ones that work somewhat with the life drain: Defiant Bloodlord, Retreat to Hagra, Thrull Parasite, Bontu's Monument, Kambal, Consul of Allocation, Underworld Coinsmith (this would be a reason to keep Heliod, actually), Zulaport Cutthroat, and maybe Vizkopa Confessor

Others that pay life or give you life somehow: Arguel's Blood Fast  Flip, Chainer, Dementia Master, Cruel Sadist, Phyrexian Reclamation, Vona, Butcher of Magan, and Elenda, the Dusk Rose (for working with your creatures dying).

All of this, of course, is subject to what you're willing to buy, and you don't have to listen to anything I say. It's your deck, after all.

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