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Chainer, Dementia Master
Legendary Creature — Human Minion
Nightmare creatures get +1/+1.
, Pay 3 life: Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. That creature is black and is a Nightmare in addition to its other creature types.
When Chainer, Dementia Master leaves the battlefield, exile all Nightmares.
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Chainer, Dementia Master Discussion
2 days ago
Chainer, Dementia Master is solid for mono-black graveyard stuff, and won't completely break the bank.
1 week ago
Mono black decks can take advantage of some very specific cards: Jet Medallion , Caged Sun , and Contamination (if you're feeling spikey), Cabal Ritual , and Bubbling Muck . The rituals hurt a lot less due to Villis's amazing ability to draw cards. Heartless Summoning is also a fantastic creature ramp card when your deck is composed primarily of large creatures like demons, however it prevents you from keeping x/1 creatures around. In my opinion it is VERY worth it because there is little difference between an 8/8 and a 7/7 but saving 2 mana on every creature makes a huge impact.
Mindslicer makes everyone hell bent but you will often pull ahead with Villis afterward so it could be a decent include.
Villis costs ALOT of mana and adding commander tax to that makes it crippling so I suggest including some ways to cheat him into play through reanimiation or other tricks. Geode Golem and Command Beacon can get Villis out of the command zone much sooner than normal and you can abuse Black's amazing reanimation spells to cheat him into play more efficiently than returning him to the command zone. Chainer, Dementia Master , Animate Dead , Dance of the Dead , Reanimate (also draws you 8 cards after he enters!!), Strands of Night , there are so many more I haven't listed.
Loxodon Warhammer is a fantastic equipment that serves multiple purpose by giving your flying demons trample and the much desires lifelink. This also turns Villis into a 2 hit commander damage killer making it even a win condition.
Including some quality sacrifice outlets feels like a must in a mono black deck because you are always playing with the grave. High Market and Miren, the Moaning Well are great sac outlets in land slots. Ashnod's Altar , Phyrexian Altar , Spawning Pit and Dimir House Guard are also good option that can serve multiple purposes.
1 week ago
But seriously, I never considered counter eating for Isareth. The good thing about her that Chainer, Dementia Master doesn't do is the creatures stay alive even if she does, but she's also in colors that don't allow you to repeatedly abuse her ability using repeated combat steps. I think she'd probably work better in a BR reanimater build with lots of deal damage triggers.
1 month ago
A change log has been made for todays changes. I took your advice and removed Ravos and Whisper, adding in Chainer, Dementia Master and Nim Deathmantle instead. I also changed out some "dead" cards to better the deck I feel. Can always put them back if I want them XP
If you were looking to add Citadel and/or Aetherworks Marvel, I'd consider removing Kaya's Guile , Rotlung Reanimator , Decree of Pain . Kaya's Guile I'm not sure why its there. Instant speed "Exile Graveyards" and make people sac a creature? I honestly don't see you ever paying 6 mana to make a 1/1 and gain 4 life. There are better "exile graveyard" type effects. Sure, most of them do yours too, but if someon is about to win then whats worse? Even Leyline of the Void would be stronger I feel.
Decree of Pain, while it is card draw, is a feel bad at 8 mana. Even cycling only kills your creatures and draws you a single card.
1 month ago
First of all I ofcourse don't know what your budget is. These cards I mentioned are in the higher price range, but unfortunately not on any reserved list and very easy to trade :) But fair enough if you don't want to spend that amount of cash on them!
To respond to your responses :)
The nim deathmantle I think is an auto include in any teysa deck, we play orzhov and we run out of a hand eventually. To use your turns to start looping stuff on the battlefield is pretty good. Nim is a real enabler in that way also an engine for your drain effects.
It felt exactly like that with the wurmcoil and the walker ;) The slumlord is really good, he often provides quite a lot of tokens and that's what teysa wants :) What's your plan with the Sandsower ? Cause if you only run it to untap Whisper, Blood Liturgist then I would just run another recursion effect instead of such a niche card... What about Dread Return , Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord , Chainer, Dementia Master are all very affordable recursion effects :-)
Vindictive Vampire I would just run in addition too, tbh. IF you really want to go towards the Aristocrats style! Lily I can totally understand. The standard meta still hasn't settled and therefor it's still uncertain if she will see play or not. I think as soon as that happens we'll know if she goes up or down. Nontheless it is a reaaaally powerfull card. Sorin is criminally underrated and in a aristocrats deck an absolute powerhouse and much better than the token generator sorin... Almost all your creatures are cmc 3 or less, wich means Sorin will fetch them out of your graveyard the turn he enters + the lifelink is a really nice addition as well. Gives you space to run for example Command the Dreadhorde or Bolas's Citadel . The ping effect I often use to ping a planeswalker, next to this it's on +2 so he grows big fast. I rarely draw him and go well this is completely useless right now...
Since Orzhov lack proper card draw like blue has, I would run Yawgmoth and lily tbh. They are both that good, but being on a budget Yawgmoth will probably do more for us.
Let me know how the Aetherworks Marvel works out for you! I have it in my binder as well and im curious about it!
DH i would keep out of your deck unless you play at a 75%+ powerlevel table. Otherwise it will ruin the more casual pods and it won't be fun for anyone. But that's the nice thing, see it more as a kill switch you can dump in your deck increasing the powerlevel of you deck quite a lot.
My bad about the draw then, it was late and I was about to get to bed, think I just overlooked them :-) Midnight Reaper I still need to get as well, I have one and it's in my Meren deck.... I have 2 bolas's Citadel's in my binder, but no idea what to cut for it in my list (you can always take a quick peek if you want to see if you have some ideas?)
I think what is almost more important than sac outlets are the recursion effects. It really is the engine of the deck. I play around 8-9 effects and a ton of card draw to get too them. Again Orzhov is not the fastest color when it comes to ramp, so we go midgame fast, and there we see out other problem. Going into the midcame empty handed is killing or not having a recursion effect on the field is also terrible to bring back out dead... As long as we can Recur our creatures we are good to go. That's why I'm no fan of Whisper/Ravos, they are creatures. People like to play boardwipes/spotremoval so often they won't survive. Putting your recursion on any other slot is better than a creature. If you are low on sac fodder than whisper is a horrible recursion effect because you need 2(!!) creatures to recur one thin. In my opinion Chainer/Victimize/Dread Return are all better because if they can drag your Sun Titan out of your grave the moment it resolves you have gass again :) Whisper and Ravos both need to wait an entire round wich is quite long to stay alive!
1 month ago
1 month ago
Hands down the best reanimator commander in mono-black is Chainer, Dementia Master . Three life for an Eldrazi? Yes, please. As for mono-black in general, I always suggest running the standard black ramp package to help fuel your expensive spells.
1 month ago
Necropotence , Hatred , Chainer, Dementia Master , Arguel's Blood Fast Flip, Erebos, God of the Dead , Necrologia , Phyrexian Reclamation , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Toxic Deluge . It is important to have payoffs for having that much life. Maybe you don't need all of these, but they can give that extra oomf you need.
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