Chainer, Dementia Master

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Torment (TOR) Rare

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Chainer, Dementia Master

Legendary Creature — Human Minion

Nightmare creatures get +1/+1.

, Pay 3 life: Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. That creature is black and is a Nightmare in addition to its other creature types.

When Chainer, Dementia Master leaves the battlefield, exile all Nightmares.

Chainer, Dementia Master Discussion

triproberts12 on Xantcha, Sleeper Agent

1 hour ago

I really like what you've done here, and I vote you build this deck. I can tell that, despite not having played very long, you've done your research. Haven't even seen Balduvian Warlord in a list yet, and it's some great tech. Plus you're running my favorite black card in EDH, Syphon Mind! Such value.

As for what to add, I think you could use another sac outlet or two for when Xantcha comes back to you after a player dies. Phyrexian Tower is a good investment. It only recently went from like $60 to $10 from the reprint, and I don't see it being reprinted any time soon.

Some other good cards to encourage combat and keep yourself protected are Koskun Falls , since it's the only Ghostly Prison in BR. No Mercy is a great deterrent, as well. Also, Maddening Imp is fun tech, but you can force combat more broadly with Angel's Trumpet , Fumiko the Lowblood , Goblin Spymaster , and Warmonger Hellkite .

As for helping Xantcha hit the mark, Cover of Darkness is excellent. Gotta love the old tribal cards that affect other player's creatures, and you're unlikely to get much splash effect from naming "Minion." Although, if you want to capitalize on it, Chainer, Dementia Master , Sleeper Agent (the OG Xantcha), and Phage the Untouchable could all play well into what you're doing. Chainer for the abundance of dying creatures. Agent, since no one will want to block it and for that sweet, sweet flavor. Phage, since no blockers should be a goal in your deck. Either way, Cover of Darkness should replace Whispersilk Cloak , since you can't equip creatures you don't control. Shizo, Death's Storehouse could also be good.

I think you could use a little more mana fixing, as well. Blood Crypt is unlikely to ever get cheaper than it is now. Temple of Malice is nice, and if you find yourself leaning black, Tainted Peak could be a good include, as well. Also, Rakdos Signet seems like a given.

As for cuts, I don't think Hissing Miasma is that great. Koskun Falls and No Mercy are much better deterrents. Shizo, Death's Storehouse is more mana-efficient than Rogue's Passage , and makes black mana, to boot. The Haunt of Hightower just seems too slow to be worth the cost if you're not building around it. Words of Waste seems like a loosing battle, since you'll need to be paying 3 mana to draw with Xantcha and activate the ability, so for every two times you combo, you're paying 6 mana and putting your opponents down 2 cards each and drawing 0 cards. For that 6 mana, you could just draw three cards, instead.

Good luck!

jmeadors24 on Black Creature Control

2 weeks ago

triproberts12 I didn't really consider Chainer, Dementia Master as my commander, but that's a good idea. I made him my commander, and it worked pretty well. Geth, Lord of the Vault and Liliana Vess give me some creature recursion, but I can see why adding more can help my deck. I just have to figure out what cards I can take out to make room for them lol.

triproberts12 on Black Creature Control

3 weeks ago

The biggest thing I think you could do to improve the deck would be to use Chainer, Dementia Master as your commander over Kalitas. You already have plenty of ways to kill creatures, and you can only reanimate one creature per turn with Kalitas. Since you're killing things left and right, you should also include reanimation spells. Stuff like Sepulchral Primordial and Rise of the Dark Realms give you a payoff to win the game with check out Chainer's EDHREC page to see how people are building reanimator.

Osbert on Meren, Babe From Another Grave

4 weeks ago

Plaguecrafter is a top notch creature gobbler and actually does something to a barren board.

A way to recur creatures progressively might be a good idea as you have many engine creatures and only Sheoldred and Meren to grab them. Phyrexian Reclamation , Strands of Night , Nim Deathmantle , Chainer, Dementia Master , etc.

Aphoticate on Commander Tier List [WIP]

1 month ago

I was wondering what you think of Chainer, Dementia Master Stax going up to tier 3? I only ask because my casual list can really go ham. I'm fairly confident that I could add lots of discard and other stax elements like Contamination to make it way more powerful.

Honestly, I don't know if it's actually tier 3 worthy, I was just curious to know your thoughts. The reason I personally like Chainer is he can be a mana sink for the mono B ramp cards like Crypt Ghast and Cabal Coffers . My primary win con is to sac/reanimate Gray Merchant of Asphodel or Kokusho, the Evening Star . Doing it with Mindslicer can be a decent lock too.

One reason I wonder if it could make a strong stax list is in the mass discard. If you can make everyone discard their hand and then play Chainer, you are basically the only person playing Magic having access to all creatures in all graveyards.

Just so I'm clear, I'm not claiming he should be tier 3, I'm just asking what you guys think. I haven't actually played any cedh games with him to make a claim like that.

If you want I could upload/post my Chainer list. It's pretty casual as is and may not be very helpful.

Aphoticate on Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

1 month ago

I like Black Market in something like Chainer, Dementia Master stax. Its slow for sure but it gives you oodles of mana to reanimate lots of stuff.

SamsWrath on Mono black Korlash

1 month ago

There are some other mono-black commander options that you might want to consider. Sidisi, Undead Vizier is a Tutor on a stick and Chainer, Dementia Master is Reanimate on a stick.

thom-le on Kill and Run

1 month ago

You are right, that's a difficult question. I have taken a closer look to this "combo". My idea was that the becoming of a copy does not trigger the entering the battlefield-ability. Neither does the leaving-the-battlefield trigger, if the card does get a copy of another card.

In the rules book, there is quoted:

201.4. Text that refers to the object it’s on by name means just that particular object and not any other objects with that name, regardless of any name changes caused by game effects.

Therefore the trigger that Lazav gains from Chainer would be "When {this object} leaves the battlefield, exile all Nightmares". So If Lazav leaves the battlefield while he is a copy Chainer, Dementia Master, then the triggered ability would definitely trigger. In this case, all created nightmares get exiled.

However, if Lazav, the Multifarious become a different copy, for example of Will-o'-the-Wisp, then he does not have the ability when leaving the battlefield. And last, those reanimated creatures don't get any additional abilities except for becoming black and the creature type nightmare, the "getting exiled"-text is on Chainer.

This is my opinion to this effect, but I'm not clutching on this combo too much and if someone knows it better I'll definitely take a change.

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Chainer, Dementia Master occurrence in decks from the last year

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.06%

Black: 0.14%