Creature — Bird Wizard
Flash (You may play this spell any time you could play an instant.)
If an opponent would search a library, that player searches the top four cards of that library instead.
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|Masterpiece Series: Amonkhet Invocations (AKHMPS)||Common|
|Future Sight (FUT)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
- how does Aven Mindcensor interact against fetchlands
- Would you still shuffle your library after not searching it due to an Aven Mindcensor?
- Aven Mindcensor and Tempt with Discover timing of interaction.
- What happens when you can’t search with Doomsday?
- Why does it still count as searching your library when an Aven Mindcensor is in play?
Latest Decks as Commander
Aven Mindcensor Discussion
6 days ago
"stax is viable, and relies mostly on artifacts for most locks."
If you then look at where white wants to play:
slower than red: waiting unitl red runs out of steam
faster than green: white is designed to shut down green's ramp so that it can't play big things
faster than blue but slower than red: but tries to shut out blue's control elements which is often why you see a lot of token generation on land in white
on pace with black: black and white are just stright up designed to be in direct opposition, unlike the other three colours
And as a general rule, white focuses less on winning hte hand game and more on winning the boardstate game. That's why there are so many white midrange cards that are just pure value. It's part ofthe reason why Brightling is placed where it is on mana cost.
I think the big issue here and where there is going to be the biggest disconnect between my opinion and a bunch of others' opinions is because of EDH. White and to a lesser extent red both suffer when the goalposts are moved from a two player, 20 life format to a 4 player, 40 life format. I'm not going to deny that. As someone who has a mono-white Balan, Wandering Knight deck, I do know the struggles that mono-white can feel.
But the issue is that you can't just look at white in the context of one format. Any cards that you're creating here which would undoubtedly make white better in EDH would tip the scales too hard in white's favour in all of the other formats that had the cards available. Or the cards would be crap and unplayable to to the point where they wouldn't help the EDH decks anyway. And look, I've heard some thoughts about cards that scale with the number of opponents which would be the best fix if one were needed (as to have the least impact on the other formats) But I just don't think that they're required.
In addition to this, I don't think that the points I have made undermine any of my previous points. Yes, mono-white in EDH has some defecits due to the format change, however a lot of the stax effects hurt all opponents equally, so they still work pretty well.
But it's important for EDH-only (and especially casual EDH-only) players to keep all of this in mind - any new cards you add will affect other formats. So while EDH is definitely a popular format, it should not dictate how white works.
2 weeks ago
Also while you're kind of on to it already, more cards which discourages your opponents from casting their stuff so that you have more to work with: AEther Barrier, Aura of Silence, Aven Mindcensor, Frozen Aether, Grand Arbiter Augustin IV, Kambal, Consul of Allocation, Land Equilibrium, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Loxodon Gatekeeper, Mana Breach, Overburden, Suture Priest
3 weeks ago
Roryesquire: At the end of the day, if you like it then that's fine. But if you're looking at streamlining the list (since you posted here asking for help), then these are things that will hold the deck back.
Brago, King Eternal may be able to flicker planeswalkers, but the walkers you are running don't really have big impact negative abilities. Ashiok is probably the best there and if you're running Brago primary to flicker her then it seems like a waste. And sure, you can flicker Dockside Extortionist but again, if that's the best thing the deck does, it feels like a wasted slot. Not to mention the fact that most of your card advantage requires you to cast legendary spells, not just ETB them. Also, Brago and Master of Cruelties is a nonbo - you can't attack with both at once. I also fail to see how Brago helps Sisay in a voltron capacity.
I get that the OG duals work well with the fetches (which is why basically every competitive deck runs them together), however my point was that running Nature's Lore, Three Visits, etc. takes even more advantage of them. You're basically saying "I guess I've gotten enough synergy out of these lands so I will stop there" when you could get even more value. In additon to that, if you're running Blackblade Reforged then that's even more of a reason to be running land ramp rather than artifact ramp - you get a bigger buff faster.
Thran Temporal Gateway should not be the justification for you running Progenitus. Sure, if you have gateway in play and then draw into Progenitus then it's not bad, but outside of that it's a big, clunky setup for a 4 turn clock on a player. Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger or Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre are both 4 turn clocks and do so much more (not to mention are much easier to cast).
As I said, it's your deck and you have to be happy with it, but I think that it is rather disjointed in its current state.
3 weeks ago
Kamerot: This is the one element of mutate I am not understanding, and if you can clarify what you mean by that, you might just add to my reasons lol.
So, Caustic Caterpillar was an answer to Torpor Orb, but lately Drannith Magistrate/Linvala, Keeper of Silence have been more problematic. Ram Through eliminates them while being cheaper than Caustics ability and becoming an alt win con. In comes Gemrazer, looking to replace Reclamation Sage. It can save key pieces while being able to kill Torpor Orb AND Cursed Totem, also back up trample for Ram Through, and the possibility of blocking Aven Mindcensor/Linvala, Keeper of Silence. Ashaya makes Mana dork lines so minimal that we only ever need the dork to produce 1-3 Mana to win, so we can stand to lose an elf for the priest (our only elf reliant line btw).
But, please tell me more on repeatability of Gemrazer.
3 weeks ago
I've made a few changed to the deck in an effort to lower the mana curve and also include some more hatebear elements to try and slow down the game to give me more time to catch up.
1 month ago
DeinoStinkus Honestly between that card (been tryna explain to people how stupid good it is, specifically the token part, the lands obviously make it an option, but the tokens make it great imo), Drannith Magistrate, Faeburrow Elder, Dovin's Veto, etc. I think white is simply going to change from the color you add for removal and a few hate pieces (Rest in Peace, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, etc.), now it will be a value color.
As is it already has a lot of new one-sided hate pieces, or draw engines like Mangara, the Diplomat (not saying it's a cEDH card, just pointing where white is heading), it already had Aven Mindcensor, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Silence, etc.
Adding in Drannith Magistrate and friends from newer sets and you can see high-value hatebears that compete on a whole new scale than older ones, giving tons of new staples to the format, and warping deck archetypes. Magistrate was so good it made Kess, the list that with Consult and Flash decks all over the format (pre-ban), it was tiered as high as Najeela and TnT (Kenrith wasn't around) as one of the top 3 decks, but after it was slotted into every deck it really hurt Kess, despite being mostly an answer to commander-focused decks.
Value in cards like Smothering Tithe and Keeper of the Accord changes the game a lot too, giving white a powerful splash color for decks just looking to play the most powerful threats. These cards can do insane things, and feel like white's equivalent to Seedborn Muses, Rhystic Studys, etc. Now I feel like red's Dockside Extortionist, while busted, just doesn't give as much value outside of storm and combo, and red just doesn't feel like it has a great long game, and white does.
I think that because red has gotten Conspicuous Snoop it is getting much better combos and with Goblin Recruiter being a one-card, easy win it shows red is still finding interesting synergies, I'd actually say that Black, White, and Red are getting closer.
RambIe I think it is pretty interesting to look at each color like I did above and it seems you and your friend did, but as power creeps up and up, I think the net result is that each of the colors becomes more powerful, and the end is that a 5c or 4c pile (As is I doubt TnT would ever be phased out) becomes the best deck, as we continue to see pushed 5c generals and the decks get more insanely based on just whatever the best cards are rather than synergies.
1 month ago
That's perfectly fair.
The Yisan, the Wanderer Bard/Galvanic Alchemist/Biomancer's Familiar style synergies was something I was researching not too long ago, and so you asking about it was almost perfectly on time, pretty lucky!
I'll tell you now that I am still unsure of it. I think the Thrasios/Tymna build I made it for with Faeburrow Elder, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Drannith Magistrate, and Aven Mindcensor give a better toolbox utility than in Sultai, however I'd still use value creature with it. Notion Thief, Gilded Drake, even Reclamation Sage could be high in value!
1 month ago
Baral, Chief of Compliance, Glen Elendra Archmage, Hall of Heliod's Generosity, Thornbite Staff, Grand Arbiter Augustin IV, Grand Abolisher, Aven Mindcensor, Narset, Parter of Veils and Ashiok, Dream Render are some cards that immediately comes to mind. I would build this deck with the purpose to suffocate my opponents entierly. Ah and also Deafening Silence and Decree of Silence with Solemnity.
Just be aware, your playgroup might hate you after game one tho...