Back:Avacyn, the Purifier Flip
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Shadows over Innistrad||Mythic Rare|
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Legendary Creature — Angel
When Archangel Avacyn enters the battlefield, creatures you control gain indestructible until end of turn.
When a non-Angel creature you control dies, transform Archangel Avacyn at the beginning of the next upkeep.
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Archangel Avacyn Discussion
10 hours ago
saber4734 I really do love Tireless Tracker, she provides both good stats and rewards you for playing lands which i think is a very nice effect for any midrange deck. While i appreciate the suggestions i really want to add the angels, simply because i think they are cool and have cool effects. I realize that it will make the deck slightly less competitive, but im mostly just trying to make a fun deck. I actually considered cutting Thalia's Lancers for another Bruna, the Fading Light since she can fish up both Gisela, the Broken Blade, Archangel Avacyn Flip and Sigarda, Heron's Grace.
Odric, Lunarch Marshal was also in my list earlier with Thalia, Heretic Cathar, but i felt that Odric was hard to get an effect from since none of the earlier drops have any effects he can boost. For Thalia i felt that i would rather play Tireless or my enchantments to further my own gameplan instead of trying to slow the enemy down.
14 hours ago
SkoomaDaDrug you made a cool deck. Do you side board in any counter spells? Ceremonious Rejection and all of the other blue counters might be hard on your deck. I'm sure your deck can steal a game or two at an FNM, which is cool to see a home brew pull off. Fun looking brew you have.
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With the new embalm mechanic in AKH I'm looking forward to getting a boost to the deck I've been tinkering with since KLD. If I get some Gideon, Ally of Zendikar I'll have to rename it to WHITE TRASH, but I'm poor af so the one copy of Archangel Avacyn Flip was the BIG money card I added. Hoping to cue up some WHITE ZOMBIE tunes and finally have a competitive deck at FNM this season!
1 day ago
To further clarify, unlike the Transforming Planeswalkers (Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip, for example), Archangel Avacyn Flip does not leave the battlefield when she transforms. Therefore, as far as the game is concerned, she is still the same instance of the same permanent, although some characteristics of that permanent have changed. When you choose a permanent with Consulate Surveillance, it does not matter which side she is currently on - all damage she attempts to deal to you after the resolution of the ability will be prevented.
1 day ago
Color identity, which is what I beleive you are thinking about, is only really applicable in Commander/EDH to determine if a card can go into the deck; it has to account for both sides of the transform card in case of varied colors.
Double-faced Card Rules:
711.4. Each face of a double-faced card has its own set of characteristics.
711.4a While a double-faced card is outside the game, in a zone other than the battlefield, or on the battlefield with its front face up, it has only the characteristics of its front face.
711.4b While a double-faced permanents back face is up, it has only the characteristics of its back face. However, its converted mana cost is calculated using the mana cost of its front face. This is a change from previous rules. If a permanent is copying the back face of a double-faced card (even if the card representing that copy is itself a double-faced card), the converted mana cost of that permanent is 0.
1 day ago
My opponent has Akroma's Memorial in play, giving her creatures protection from red and black. I attack with Archangel Avacyn Flip (not transformed into Avacyn, the Purifier Flip), and she is blocking with an Ornithopter.
Does the pro-red from Memorial have any effect whatsoever on the white side Archangel Avacyn Flip, or has the "color identity" aspect of EDH just caused us to have a very confused perspective of double faced card colors?
Thank you for your help!
1 day ago
To keep Archangel Avacyn Flip's flip damage from occurring, you would have to destroy her before the end of your turn or be able to counter the delayed transform trigger before the end of your turn, neither of which Consulate Surveillance can do.
The issue with Surveillance is that it is only valid for the current turn. If you were to activate it during your turn, even at the last possible moment before your opponent's turn, "this turn" would have ended. Conversely, the earliest time priority can be passed is during the upkeep step, but Avacyn would have already transformed "at the beginning" due to her delayed trigger already being on the stack from the previous turn. There is not a way for you to respond to such a trigger in a timely manner; activating Consulate on her then would only prevent you from further damage after the transform damage.
1 day ago
Note that the rulings in Gatherer says "Consulate Surveillances second ability doesnt target anything. You choose a source of damage as it resolves." that's why I'm confused about Archangel Avacyn Flip's triggered ability and combat damage.
2 days ago
My opponent has Archangel Avacyn Flip and it's going to flip on his upkeep. I have Consulate Surveillance and I activate it's ability to prevent the 3 damage from Archangel Avacyn Flip's flip. Question, can Archangel Avacyn Flip still deal combat damage to me?