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Ethersworn Canonist Discussion
1 month ago
I mean, I don't see how this is stax, I see some very good cards, like Gamble, Imperial Recruiter, and Enlightened Tutor, but in terms of prison/stax, you only run about 6 cards: Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Ghostly Prison, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Aura of Silence, Blind Obedience, and Cataclysm.
I'd suggest you drop the cards like Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder and Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite for much more powerful stax cards. Also I'd think running some more tutors for Helm of the Host (the instant win) would be useful.
Other cards I'd suggest you run:
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben - hurts storm builds and greedy manabases more than your deck.
Ruination - You run enough basics that a 3-4 colored deck will crumble.
Armageddon - Aurelia, the Warleader makes this thing basically a win, as you can probably beat face enough to kill one person before they rebuild, whilst rebuilding on your own. At that point with a couple more stax cards you might be able to drop your opponents all together. Use Ravages of War as well if you can afford one.
Crucible of Worlds - With a lot of land-destruction, or fetchlands, this card gives you constant land drops, allowing you to rebuild like nothing ever happened a few turns after an Armageddon or Cataclysm. Acts as a half Sun Titan in some cases. Strip Mine/Wasteland make it really good too.
World Queller - this card is godly. It can be used as land destruction every turn, and with a Sun Titan or Crucible of Worlds, you might not notice it's effect, but can name planeswalkers while you have none to get rid of a pesky Ugin/Karn/Nicol Bolas. It can of course remove pesky artifacts or enchantments, and still beat face a bit.
Trinisphere - This deck has a pretty high CMC, so this card might barely affect it. It will totally hurt the elf player, the storm player, and any other low-cmc player.
Aven Mindcensor - This doesn't affect you, but hurts your opponents fetch lands, tutors, or any other searches.
Luminarch Ascension - Acts as a powerful alternate win condition if you lock out you opponents.
Magus of the Moon - If you run enough basic lands, this card won't affect you very much, because of the artifact mana you have. Other decks may crumble to it.
Otherwise I'd only suggest you run some more rocks (Mox Diamond/Chrome Mox/Mana Crypt and all of the legal fetchlands like Windswept Heath, Marsh Flats, Flooded Strand, Bloodstained Mire, Wooded Foothills, Scalding Tarn)
Cards to drop for this stuff:
Argentum Armor, Extraplanar Lens, Loxodon Warhammer, Mask of Memory, Sword of War and Peace, Tenza, Godo's Maul, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, Puresteel Paladin, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder, Balefire Liege, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Archangel of Tithes, Angelic Arbiter, 2-3 lands.
Otherwise, it terms of lands, drop Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion, Temple of the False God, Boros Garrison, Emeria, The Sky Ruin, Opal Palace, Rogue's Passage, Clifftop Retreat, and some basic mountains, add the remaining 6 fetchlands, and that should be about it!
1 month ago
2 months ago
Moat doesn't affect cEdh decks, almost ever. I mean Sword of Feast and Famine gets hurt a bit, etc. Same thing goes for Ghostly Prison, Propaganda, Sphere of Safety. These cards are neither prison nor stax, just pillow fort.
"Damage Mitigation" isn't stax/prison either, just more pillow fort.
City of Solitude and War's Toll aren't "Stax" in a conventional sense (War's Toll is very close), but they are much closer to combo protection. Rule of Law or Ethersworn Canonist are real options for "Casting Stax". Nevermore and Gideon's Intervention are considered removal though.
That leaves you with the following real stax/prison effects.
Okay, would your deck be stax? No, it would have a few stax cards. Would it be prison? No though it can pull off one.
Now, lets go back to reality. You run 4 cards, of which Mystic Remora/Rhystic Study are may costs, and so can't pull off a prison, and War's Toll doesn't affect many decks. It can stop a bit of disruption, which is powerful as an effect, but it does set up a prison without other cards. Think how good it would be with The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, if they pay any upkeep costs, they tap all their lands, and their mana disappears by their main phase. But you don't run it for that.
Finally, the best Prison/Stax piece you run, Tainted AEther, which can affect a few very specific decks, and slow them down a turn or two. If you ran 6-10 of these silver bullets, and tutored them up dependent on the situation at hand.
To sum everything up, you run 4 stax peices, of which two can't set up prisons, one doesn't in this deck, and one that could, but is a silver bullet. You are not Stax nor are Prison.
2 months ago
I completely forgot about Ethersworn Canonist! Thanks for reminding me! Tbh, I only have Cranial Plating/Etched Champion in there because I haven't really devised another wincon yet.. And that combo just seemed to go best with the deck, but I'd be happy to switch it up for something else.
Thanks for the reply!
2 months ago
I'd rather see a Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir/Knowledge Pool lock as the wincon, or something efficient like one of the planeswalkers- a Jace ult is usually a win and its useful through the rest of the game.
3 months ago
I feel like Damping Sphere is not as relevant in commander as in modern, I tried it out in earlier versions but it just doesn't do anything. Rule of Law and Ethersworn Canonist stop people from playing more than 1 spell each turn, Thank you for the input though.
3 months ago
both deadman and I play basically the same deck (I copy his HW as I don't get enough serious games in to innovate). The basic aim of the deck is to tax people just enough to slow them down and throw out hate cards that hinder your opponents disproportionately more than they hinder you. Finally, you try to counter other threats while building card advantage or assembling a combo. That's really how the deck intends to win. Although you can win quickly with the list, it's pretty rare. I'd say you're looking at turn 6 to 10 most of the time. Trying to combo right out of the gates is usually pretty dumb.
Arbiter in most metas can be played as 'soft lock' or 'value-control' as you said, but tends to draw tons of hate from most players as unfun. At higher levels of play, that's not really an issue any longer, but aiming to play 'soft lock' or 'value-control' doesn't work all that well.
When it comes to the cards you suggested, I don't like any of them for arbiter.
The counters you run in arbiter should be as lean as possible while not being too narrow or weak. That's why you'll often see arbiter decks have stuff like Arcane Denial, Dispel, Flusterstorm, etc. The deck lists above doesn't really have the time to sit and draw tons of cards and try to play a reactive counter-based gameplan. That's going to fail miserably. Counters should be something you can sequence into your turn cycles so that you're always doing something productive on your turns. Unwind seems nice on paper, but too often you'll be faced with the decision to hold up the counter or play something relevant on your mainphase. Cheaper counters are great. For players that don't have that much money and can't afford cards like Mana Drain and Force of Will, I recommend cards like Arcane Denial. Delay, Negate, and even Memory Lapse. Cheap and unconditional is ideally what you want.
As for Damping Sphere, it's a tad narrow. I also like some other hate cards over this thing that target the same decks. Ethersworn Canonist, Rule of Law, etc. Still, if your meta is filled with decks that are annoyed by this card, you can run it. Arbiter is blessed with the ability to run a ton of flex cards that are often dedicated for hate. However, many of the hate cards aren't broad enough. For instance, there are games where Grafdigger's Cage is insanely good and others where it's a terrible card. One of the weaknesses of the deck is that it's prone to drawing hate cards that may not be ideal at facing down opposing strategies.
Teferi, Hero of Dominaria is a powerful walker and it would be nice to have one out for several turns, but it's a little too hard to protect. You generally want more consistent cards. I love Narset Transcendent. I actually used to play this deck in a league a while back and ulted her twice the night I first bought her. In some metas, walkers can stick on the field reliably. However, I found it to be really hard to defend walkers. I've since dropped her but I can't bring myself to get rid of her from my collection. Teferi's really in the same boat.
If you want more draw, I've recently been playing Windfall in my list and liking it quite a bit.
3 months ago
Icbrgr I was thinking about to put another Phyrexian Scriptures instead of the ultimatum. The Ethersworn Canonist is a great card but it's too expensive for me now ahaha. The Baleful Strix could replace well the Glint-Nest Crane, I'll try it. Thanks!