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8 hours ago
Hah! Love the Titania's Song, I thought I was the only one!
Decree of Annihilation doesn't trigger Ruric Thar, the Unbowed and is a cantrip Armageddon. Epicenter, Impending Disaster, Boom and Ruination are great ways to turn the table in your favor as well, with all of your dorks. Trinisphere, Sphere of Resistance, Thorn of Amethyst, Lodestone Golem, and other tax effects to improve on the way the land destruction shuts off your opponents. Running more tutors for Magus of the Moon is also great, think Sylvan Tutor or Imperial Recruiter type effects.
23 hours ago
Tatyova, Benthic Druid supports lands on the battlefield, The Gitrog Monster supports them in the graveyard, and with Borborygmos Enraged we now have a commander in good colors that supports lands in your hand. Well, almost.
Tatyova, Benthic Druid and The Gitrog Monster support your lands by drawing you cards, which is a very valueable commodity for decks that run a ton of lands, as lands give mana, but not exactly card draw, the two most important resources. Borborygmos Enraged is a tad different, instead it pumps out Lightning Bolts!. This makes it great removal in a competitive scene with a lot of dorks and hatebears if you have the lands to support him blowing everything up, and he can be used to win given enough lands.
Instead of being a commander that cycles through your deck, you are now running a commander that is a win condition if you can cycle through your deck, while also eliminating pesky Spirit of the Labyrinths and Notion Thiefs occasionally. This is not worse by itself, just different to the other "land-storm" strategies that have existed before.
Well then, if you are in colors that make it easy to cycle through your deck, it shouldn't be a problem to pull this off. This would work if you were in or , however you are not, you are in . This will make it harder to make this kind of deck viable, except wait! You aren't a landstorm deck, you are a combo deck that is running Keen Sense and Snake Umbra, which will allow you to turn your commander into a drawing machine!
Okay, then there is a very clear deck in the meta to compare it to, Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind, a powerful Tier 2 list, running Curiosity and Ophidian Eye, which can allow for the commander to deal damage, drawing a card, dealing damage, and so forth, and with the commander costing 4 devotion like this one, it would make sense to compare them, even the enchantments costs are the same!
On the side of Borborygmos the enraged, he is in green and so has tons of ramp, along with being a allied color to red, so there is better lands for him, and also has access to land destruction and some better stax effects.
On the side of Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind, she is 2 mana less, has blue, which allows access to much better card draw, has Tandem Lookout and Mind Over Matter as well, and so has a couple more options than green for combo-pieces, and also has a commander that can draw cards (getting closer to the combo) than Borborygmos Enraged. It has better tutoring options, as Long-Term Plans, Intuition, Dizzy Spell, etc. It has better interaction in the form of countermagic and removal (Chain of Vapor, Cyclonic Rift, Pongify etc.). This is all good and everything, but what Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind truely has over Borborygmos the enraged is that she can win without being lucky on the draw (doesn't need to find a land to trigger again), and can run a 30-land landbase instead of a 42-land landbase to be consistent.
With all of that stacked against Borborygmos the enraged, does that mean he isn't a competitive commander? Not nessecarily, I personally believe every commander could be competitive. No, I think this deck has taken what Borborygmos the enraged is trying to do incorrectly.
I have been working on a primer for making any commander competitive, Why Every Commander is Competitive, and when I looked through the advice I would give others, I would turn this list into a stax list, you run a couple stax cards, like Destructive Force and Wildfire, and I think it is something that this list should do much much more of.
Imagine if instead of this combo-oriented list (which I hope I have explained why it isn't competitive as a land-storm/combo build at this point), was instead a stax build. You ramp into a Ruination, drop a Trinisphere, and your opponents have nothing. Null Rod there artifact mana, Cursed Totem there dorks, and ramp basic lands to win. Blood Moon them, Magus of the Moon them (tutorable via Imperial Recruiter), and eventually, once you have run all of your opponents out of gas, you plop your commander, and play out a Storm Cauldron, taking everyone down in a turn or two. Maybe you run a Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Zealous Conscripts combo in the list as a backup.
A deck like that doesn't sound like a deck like The Gitrog Monster or Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind, and I promise it is a competitive list. If it sounds like the commander isn't necessary, you wouldn't be wrong. I could build it with Jerrard of the Closed Fist minus the Storm Cauldron part, and it would do about as well.
I want to apologize if it sounds like I am ramming your deck, this is simply what I see. If you would rather me not criticize your list or suggest improvements, I won't do it any more, just say it.
2 days ago
Hi, came here from FB :)
Personally, I'd run Pyrohemia over Pestilence (or both). Combat Celebrant seems a little odd here, since you have relatively few combat triggers. It's only good when you have Kiki-Jiki, and I would stick with your Zealous Conscripts line (since it has utility outside of the combo). Have you considered Painful Quandary as an additional oppression piece? I'm surprised Ruination isn't in here; I find it to be a vicious board wipe in my meta. Trinisphere is another way to lock down combo decks. I'm always partial to a good Hymn to Tourach, but I understand if it's not your cup of tea :) Have you tried Black Market here to pair with your land/artifact/creature wipes?
Looks good! You definitely get a +1 from me :)
1 week ago
I mean, I don't see how this is stax, I see some very good cards, like Gamble, Imperial Recruiter, and Enlightened Tutor, but in terms of prison/stax, you only run about 6 cards: Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Ghostly Prison, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Aura of Silence, Blind Obedience, and Cataclysm.
I'd suggest you drop the cards like Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder and Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite for much more powerful stax cards. Also I'd think running some more tutors for Helm of the Host (the instant win) would be useful.
Other cards I'd suggest you run:
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben - hurts storm builds and greedy manabases more than your deck.
Ruination - You run enough basics that a 3-4 colored deck will crumble.
Armageddon - Aurelia, the Warleader makes this thing basically a win, as you can probably beat face enough to kill one person before they rebuild, whilst rebuilding on your own. At that point with a couple more stax cards you might be able to drop your opponents all together. Use Ravages of War as well if you can afford one.
Crucible of Worlds - With a lot of land-destruction, or fetchlands, this card gives you constant land drops, allowing you to rebuild like nothing ever happened a few turns after an Armageddon or Cataclysm. Acts as a half Sun Titan in some cases. Strip Mine/Wasteland make it really good too.
World Queller - this card is godly. It can be used as land destruction every turn, and with a Sun Titan or Crucible of Worlds, you might not notice it's effect, but can name planeswalkers while you have none to get rid of a pesky Ugin/Karn/Nicol Bolas. It can of course remove pesky artifacts or enchantments, and still beat face a bit.
Trinisphere - This deck has a pretty high CMC, so this card might barely affect it. It will totally hurt the elf player, the storm player, and any other low-cmc player.
Aven Mindcensor - This doesn't affect you, but hurts your opponents fetch lands, tutors, or any other searches.
Luminarch Ascension - Acts as a powerful alternate win condition if you lock out you opponents.
Magus of the Moon - If you run enough basic lands, this card won't affect you very much, because of the artifact mana you have. Other decks may crumble to it.
Otherwise I'd only suggest you run some more rocks (Mox Diamond/Chrome Mox/Mana Crypt and all of the legal fetchlands like Windswept Heath, Marsh Flats, Flooded Strand, Bloodstained Mire, Wooded Foothills, Scalding Tarn)
Cards to drop for this stuff:
Argentum Armor, Extraplanar Lens, Loxodon Warhammer, Mask of Memory, Sword of War and Peace, Tenza, Godo's Maul, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, Puresteel Paladin, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder, Balefire Liege, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Archangel of Tithes, Angelic Arbiter, 2-3 lands.
Otherwise, it terms of lands, drop Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion, Temple of the False God, Boros Garrison, Emeria, The Sky Ruin, Opal Palace, Rogue's Passage, Clifftop Retreat, and some basic mountains, add the remaining 6 fetchlands, and that should be about it!
1 week ago
Definitely forgot that some of those cards existed, namely Ghostly Prison, Chained to the Rocks, and pretty much all the mana rocks. I'll probably cut Exile for one of them but I need to actually get and test the deck to see whats underperfoming before I add anything else.
I think I should be good on boardwipes as the damage dealing ones gain me life with FSSS (which will incidentally fuel the reservoir enough to kill most if not all of my opponents).
I skipped on most of the creature as most of them didn't affect the boardstate that much and I wanted to go with a more spellslinger style build, and only really intend to attack with the tokens from Assemble the Legion if they would kill someone.
Also lucky for me I'm only one who has any MLD in any of their decks in my group, and it's a single copy of Ruination in my Norin deck.
3 weeks ago
I played the deck a bit more and made the following changes for more consistency: Ancient Den & Great Furnace (to enable Puresteel Paladin, artefact lands from the original list), Command Beacon & Strip Mine. After lowering the basic land count I will take out either Blood Moon or Ruination and put back Temur Battle Rage. It is an extra target for Sunforger, and I found as you mentioned that reach is often needed to close the games. I replaced Buried Ruin by Mistveil Plains to combo with Sunforger. Finally I came across the card Comeuppance which looks quite fun, so I will try it.
4 weeks ago
DVLuca thanks for the suggestion! I think I will do that ramp combo!Kogarashi, Leyline of Punishment and Skullcrack were basically fillers at the very end. And Possibility Storm is basically just for the fun of havoc. Ruination and Magus of the Moon were basically cards that will try to slow down my enemies, that's why I don't have a lot of non-basic lands. If you can think of a few cards to replace the leyline and skullcrack that would be great! And plus thanks for the ramp suggestions! I will hopefully be editing my deck tonight so I will go over everything again and make some changes!
4 weeks ago
I like the deck. It looks aggressive and fun at the same time, with a bit of randomness due to all the "discard your hand and draw seven cards" effects. Just a few things:
Leyline of Punishment is something of a nonbo with your other damage prevention and lifegain, it seems. Same with Skullcrack. I can see why they're in there, but at the same time they hamper your defenses. Stigma Lasher's ability works better in this regard, so long as someone doesn't hit you with it. Platinum Emperion is also good, as it at least locks your life total in place. I'm curious as to your thoughts for including these pieces?
Also, why Possibility Storm?