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Grenzo, Dungeon Warden
Legendary Creature — Goblin Rogue
Grenzo, Dungeon Warden enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters on it.
2: Put the bottom card of your library into your graveyard. If it's a creature card with power less than or equal to Grenzo's power, put it onto the battlefield
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Grenzo, Dungeon Warden Discussion
2 weeks ago
I have playtested this deck as well as my other decks more times than I can count, and I have never once run into the problems you guys describe. The main problem with Rakdos, Lord of Riots, is that pesky additional casting cost of dealing at least one damage to a player.
I have conceded that Charcoal Diamond and Fire Diamond are helpful additions to the deck, and are great for casting Rakdos a turn earlier, but colorless mana rocks like Mana Vault, and Thran Dynamo kind of defeat the purpose of the deck. The deck's main purpose is to generate as much damage as possible, which for one thing you are hurting your opponents, but for another you are potentially casting Eldrazi for free, or creating massive pools for creatures with in their mana costs ie:Walking Ballista, Grenzo, Dungeon Warden, Lightning Serpent, and Endless One.
Thank you both very much however for your input.
3 weeks ago
Vona's Hunger could be better than doom blade or unlicensed disintegration.
Swords to Plowshares might be able to fit in on the budget
Custodi Soulbinders could be fun to swing out on a full board
Magmasaur repeatable board wipe?
Seekers' Squire could explore for value
Banewhip Punisher is repeatable creature kill
Emissary of Sunrise probably to expensive CMC, but i think i like explore in your deck
Grenzo, Dungeon Warden most of your creatures have 2 power, this seems great!
Herald of Leshrac if you wanna be mean, but funny at the same time!
Solemn Recruit could get big fast
Taurean Mauler could get big fast
Vampire Hexmage planswalker hate
Rally the Ancestors could be clever. get your combo into the grave, play this and win!
Mask of Memory help filter your draws
Dauthi Mindripper might be better than delirium skeins
drana, liberator of malakir for budget reasons
2 months ago
2 months ago
rockleemyhero There are two players in special in our playgroup who said goodbye to Casual and hello to cEDH. And both can't resist playing cEDH decks while we often play a more casual setting.
Yesterday I took the challenge to play a few three player games against both of them and the first I won with Rafiq and then I switched to a more casual Commander which was a big mistake.
To give you an idea I played against the following Generals:
- Thrasios, Triton Hero + Tymna the Weaver
- Breya, Etherium Shaper
- Prossh, Skyraider of Kher
- The Gitrog Monster
- Atraxa, Praetors' Voice
- Grenzo, Dungeon Warden
- Narset, Enlightened Master
- Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim
I think I saw around five times one of them go infinite, in draw, damage, gaining life or whatever. There was only one game where nobody played a deck with blue so without counterspells. Which I nearly won with my Bladewing the Risen deck.
Normally these guys play fetch and pain (In which I should invest, I know). Counters, draw, ramp you name it. To go short: I know the difference between Casual, Tight Casual and cEDH. These guys seldom play a Commander who is lower than Tier 2 and they know how to play them.
So what I would like to do is make two decks which can compete with them. I don't mind spending money on cards but I am no millionaire so I have to save up. The other deck is going to be Momir Vig, Simic Visionary which I have in a casual setting right now and I am going to rebuild it to the Hack version.
3 months ago
So I'm trying to make a new deck with rakdos colors, and I'm trying to make it as strong as possible. I know technically the only "competitive" Rakdos general is Grenzo, Dungeon Warden and while I'm keeping him as an option I wanna explore other avenues too, especially since Im on a budget. Rakdos, Lord of Riots has also come up as a strong general but I fear he is too linear? Finally I won't play Mogis, God of Slaughter since my playgroup is mostly graveyard decks and that free sac only helps them lol.
Thanks in advanced!
EDIT: Also, how is Tymaret, the Murder King? I was looking through cards and I own a foil one.
EDIT 2: Okay so I also found out I have a foil Malfegor and am making builds for him. Thoughts?
3 months ago
Ob Nixilis, the Fallen, Lifeblood Hydra ,Kalonian Hydra, Ivy Elemental, Ignition Team, Hooded Hydra Heroes' Bane, Hamletback Goliath, Gyre Sage, Grenzo, Dungeon Warden, Golgari Grave-Troll, Genesis Hydra, Furyborn Hellkite, Foe-Razer Regent,Drakestown Forgotten, Cytoplast Root-Kin
3 months ago
Aetherion99 Super late response and it isn't even my deck, but the main doomsday pile is from top to bottom: Dark Ritual, Zealous Conscripts, Goblin Sledder or Mogg Raider, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Priest of Gix. When you cast Doomsday you need two mana floating to activate Grenzo, Dungeon Warden the first time. Once Doomsday resolves use your two mana to activate Grenzo, Dungeon Warden and put the Priest of Gix from the bottom of your library into play. Now you have three black floating. Use two of it to activate Grenzo, Dungeon Warden and put Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker from the bottom of your library into play. Activate him and copy the Priest of Gix, which triggers making three more black. You now have four black floating. Activate Grenzo, Dungeon Warden once more paying two more black (now floating two black) and put Goblin Sledder into play. Use his ability and sacrifice himself to give Grenzo, Dungeon Warden +1/+1 until end of turn. This gives Grenzo a power of three and thus you can spend your last two black to activate Grenzo, Dungeon Warden one last time and put Zealous Conscripts into play. Gain control of your own Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker and untap him. Then use his ability to copy the conscripts, gain control of Kiki again and untapped him, and so on and so forth. Then attack your opponents for copious amounts of damage with some absurd amount of Zealous Conscripts. The dark ritual is there as a fail safe if your combo gets disrupted. There are other piles without Kiki that use Metallic Mimic naming goblin along with Murderous Redcap and Skirk Prospector, with the Priest of Gix and Priest of Urabrask making the mana. The Redcap can be sacrificed any number of times to the prospector as it returns with persist and the +1/+1 counter from the mimic counteracts the -1/-1 counter from persist. The damage trigger on Murderous Redcap is used to kill your opponents. If you don't have conscripts you do the same pile as the previous example but you can use kiki in place of the Priest of Urabrask.
3 months ago
krenko can be explosive, he was my first commander and i love him to this day, that said, i recently upgraded to Wort, the Raidmother since my krenko deck has been completed and tuned for several years now, and tapping him and winning can bore your playgroup in high doses. i upgraded to wort for the color splash, so that i could run busted cards like Food Chain, Doubling Season, Gaea's Cradle and Craterhoof Behemoth, and personally i would say wort is a strict upgrade in power level, although the spell subtheme makes the deck play a bit different.
i too love goblins, hence my name, but mono red is very restrictive in edh, if i were you i would work towards either Wort, the Raidmother, Grenzo, Dungeon Warden or even Shattergang Brothers, as wort and shattergang can include the above green cards as well as tons of budget green spells, while grenzo and shattergang gain access to powerful, game winning spells like Doomsday, Necropotence, Vampiric Tutor and Demonic Tutor
good luck with your Goblin Offensive :)