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Mother of Runes
Creature — Human Cleric
: Target creature you control gains protection from the color of your choice until end of turn.
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Mother of Runes Discussion
1 week ago
Love the originality of using a relatively unheard of commander. I see your creature count is on the low side. I have a number of suggestions that would help with the control theme. They are:
- Aven Mindcensor
- Grand Abolisher
- Giver of Runes
- Mother of Runes
- Angel of Jubilation
- Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
- Mangara of Corondor
- Bounty Agent
- Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker
- Ranger-Captain of Eos
- Cavalier of Dawn
- Eidolon of Rhetoric
Any or all of these cards would help defend against all sorts of play styles. Not sure what you have going for a wincon but Elesh Norn would make death by combat a lot more viable. That and she shuts down a lot of token strategies.
4 weeks ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help. I don't have any experience with Licia, never played the card, but I do have experience with Mardu and life gaining/aristocrat strategies with Alesha.
Cards to consider to upgrade your deck are tutors and an aristocrat combo. Cards within the budget to consider adding:
- Demonic Tutor
- Diabolic Intent
- Enlightened Tutor
- Blood Artist : combo piece, triggers when any creature dies including your opponents creatures.
- Animate Dead : combo piece, two drop reanimation of your own creature or an opponents.
- Leonin Relic-Warder : combo piece.
- Buried Alive : combo enabler, tutor for both Warder and Razaketh putting them into your graveyard.
- Entomb : combo enabler, tutor for Warder and put it into your graveyard.
- Razaketh, the Foulblooded : combo piece, repeatable tutor.
- Arcane Signet
- Mother of Runes : repeatable protection from targeted removal and in combat for Licia, protection of the color of the blocking creature makes it so it can't block Licia.
- Blind Obedience : repeatable tap of potential blockers your opponents play making it easier for Licia to attack. Extort is a way to gain life and in multiplayer Commander you pay one mana to gain 3 life if you have three opponents.
- Authority of the Consuls
- Reanimate : one drop reanimation, use life to reanimate your creature or opponents.
- Chaos Warp
- Fetid Heath
- Rugged Prairie
- Graven Cairns
The most important cards to consider adding for upgrades are tutors. If you can afford them they're some of the best investments you can make in Commander because they can be played in all decks you make no matter the strategy. When playing combos then tutors are very helpful to find the combo pieces or Necropotence . Tutors can replace high mana cost cards, redundancy or reduce the amount of win conditions. Which in return creates smoother gameplay, reducing the avg. CMC of your deck, speeding up your deck.
Aristocrat strategies can strengthen your deck and give you another avenue to victory using life without needing Licia. Aristocrats are good for gaining life as well as making your opponents lose life which can be a win condition. A combo for Mardu aristocrats is called Razacats. It's Leonin Relic-Warder and Animate Dead with Razaketh, the Foulblooded , but you don't even need Razaketh. He's played with reanimation to tutor for Warder/Animate. Create the loop and then using Warder as repeatable sac to tutor for and assemble other combos. Razaketh's ability to tutor is powerful when you have a lot of life to use.
The two card Leonin Relic-Warder / Animate Dead combo are the cards to consider adding because it creates an infinite dying or creature ETB loop of Warder. If before you create the loop have on the battlefield an aristocrat such as Blood Artist then this combo kills all your opponents and you gain infinite life. The combo has interaction with the overall life gaining strategy. It can be used with Soul Warden / Soul's Attendant . One of them has to be on the battlefield before you create the loop to gain infinite life because Warder is repeatedly ETB and each time you gain 1 life.
When gaining infinite life you can add other cards to win such as Aetherflux Reservoir , Cliffhaven Vampire , Sanguine Bond . Aetherflux is the best option because you can cast it after you have made infinite life and broken the loop to use all the life you gained to kill each opponent. Declare you're gaining infinite life with the combo then break the loop then cast Reservior. Cliffhaven or Bond would have to be along with one of Warden or Attendant on the battlefield before you created the loop.
Sun Titan can reanimate Animate Dead which can be helpful to keep creating the loop as long as Warder is in your graveyard. If you are interested in learning more about this combo then I will explain it further.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Beacon of Immortality
- Storm Herd
- Approach of the Second Sun
- True Conviction
- Minion of the Wastes
- Serra Avatar
- Sorin, Grim Nemesis
- Hide / Seek
- Nyx-Fleece Ram
- Sun Droplet
- Tainted Sigil
- Debt to the Deathless
- Angel of Vitality
- Diabolic Tutor
- 1x Swamp
- 1x Plains
- Tainted Field
The majority of these suggested cuts are high mana cost cards. This is to reduce the high avg. CMC that's 3.7. To improve your deck cut some these high mana cost cards and replace them with low mana cost tutors which can search for and get the better cards into your hand. Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
A few I haven't seen yet:
- Time Reversal (pretty sure at least one of those is a moon)
- Opportunity (7th)
- Dreamborn Muse (Legions, 10th, Commander)
- Higure, the Still Wind (Betrayers, Planechase)
- All Sun's Zenith cards (Mirrodin Besieged)
- Etched Champion (Scars)
- Strionic Resonator (very debatable) (M14, Commander 2019)
- Gustha's Scepter (Alliances)
- Solarion (Fifth Dawn)
- Precursor Golem (Scars)
- Flying Carpet (Revised, Arabian Nights, 4t, 5th, 6th) (on the minaret)
- Oblivion Stone (Mirrodin, Commander)
- Doomsday (arguable) (Masters 25)
- Mortivore (9th, 10th, Odyssey, Commander)
- Ihsan's Shade (Masters 25)
- Dralnu's Pet (Planeshift)
- Ribbons of the Reikai (Betrayers)
- Somnophore (arguable) (Urza's Saga)
- Jace, the Living Guildpact (2015 Core Set)
- Elvish Ranger (Alliances)
- Descendants' Path (Avacyn)
- Burn at the Stake (Avacyn)
- Chaos Imps (Return to Ravnica)
- Enlightened Tutor (right cheek tattoo) (Mirage, 6th)
- Mother of Runes (in the hieroglyphics, top left) (Eternal Masters)
- Nevermore (Innistrad)
- Bottle of Suleiman (Arabian Nights)
- Silent-Blade Oni (Planechase, Commander 2018)
- Angel of Despair (Guildpact, Commander, Ultimate Masters)
- Glacial Fortress (Magic 2010-2013)
- Darkslick Shores (Scars)
- Plateau (arguable) (Alpha-Revised)
- Caged Sun (New Phyrexia, Commander 2014)
- Berserk (on the belt) (arguable) (All editions but A/B/U)
- Brutalizer Exarch (New Phyrexia, Planechase)
- Lotus Cobra (Zendikar, Iconic Masters)
- Homeward Path (Commander, Commander 2013, Commander 2016)
- Lake of the Dead (arguable) (Alliances)
- Tribute to the Wild (Commander, Commander 2015)
- Serene Heart (Mirage)
- Tranquil Domain (arguable) (Mirage)
- Guard Gomazoa (Rise of the Eldrazi, Commander)
- High Tide (Fallen Empires variant 2)
- Ray of Command (Mirage, Commander)
- Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon (arguable) (Scars)
- Thrummingbird (Scars)
- Hand of the Praetors (Scars)
- Sword of Light and Shadow (Modern Masters)
- Sword of Body and Mind (Scars, FTV: Relics)
- Sword of Feast and Famine (Mirrodin Beseiged)
- Sword of War and Peace (New Phyrexia)
- Mana-Charged Dragon (Commander)
- Crucible of Worlds (Fifth Dawn, 10th Ed, Core 2019)
Couple tips when looking for moons: Both actual moons and moon symbols count, so keep an eye out for moons on things like books, texts, and manufactured things in the art. There is no limit on how small they can be, though it's obvious it has to be large enough to make out. Some cards have very small, very sneaky moons hidden in them this way.
1 month ago
Sure, I'm at 100 cards. But we've a huge situation after all those cuts that should've changed the meter. Is it not meant to be fixed?
Whatever, this is Deck 1 that although at 100 Cards, I just don't see enough consistency for this to work properly. Here is what I believe to be the best of each:
Cloudblazer (Card Advantage & Life Gain? OH YEAH!) Daxos of Meletis (Just buff him once, & only spot removal & wraths can end him.) Deputy of Acquittals (Another Venser when we need it.) Fiend Hunter (How did this make it in?) Grand Abolisher (This is the best we got for Lockdown.) Kambal, Consul of Allocation (Taxes for casting nothing but anything not a Creature.) Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis (Group Hug? Not here. Two Benevolent Kings will destroy you.) Lavinia, Azorius Renegade (I wonder if she can do well w/ Kynalos and Tino... Oh, & STACKS.) Marchesa, the Black Rose (It's either you have low life or this stays cut.) Why didn't you decrease for me cuttung a staple like Meren?! (Uh, Recursion?) Mother of Runes (Ditched Cartel Aristocrat as at least she can be used on any of my Humans.) Reflector Mage (Still on the bend on this one.) Thalia, Heretic Cathar (Uh, Stax?) Thalia's Lieutenant (HUGE Boost throughout my humans.) Trophy Mage (At least most of my "Trophies" are Cast.)
Kenrith, the Returned King : (Recursion, Life gain, +1/+1 Buffs, Card Advantage, even giving everyone Haste & Trample is awesome. DO NOT CUT IT.)
I hope this helps in case you want to improve on this also. Signing out.
1 month ago
Hey guys, i need some tips in order to power up this Pauper UB Dimir into a casual format powerhouse. The only restriction is no single card more expensive than 50$ - 60$. My main opponents would be RW Dragons (with cards like Thundermaw Hellkite ; Grand Abolisher ; Mother of Runes ) and GW Angels with Avacyn, Angel of Hope ; Iona, Shield of Emeria ; Baneslayer Angel and some Elves to ramp mana. There are even some Circles of protecion and Leyline of Lifeforce here and there.
This is my deck: Dimir Alchemy
1 month ago
Hi again realsoupersand,
Had to fly out to Ottawa, ON in Canada for a bit, so back in action.
50% of the time, I win with my primary win-con, which is Buried Alive + Reanimate , generally between T1-4 depending on how much tutoring and mana ramps I have available. It's CMC4, which happens on T1 occassionally, T2/T3 more realistically.
Karmic Guide is a critical component of that combo, also, yes she is playable with Kaalia of the Vast . Also enables Razaketh, the Foulblooded from the graveyard, and provides for sac/tutor. It's usually never a dead draw, and at CMC5 is still playable from hand, on occasion if the game is going on, and the Protection: with Flying also has assisted occasionally. Other than her obvious CMC as just a recursion tool, she's generally been good, and a requirement for the primary win-con.
Angel of Despair is just a Vindicate for CMC7, its ridiculous and only 5/5 flying. However, it's what I ALWAYS Tainted Pact to when Show and Tell + Omniscience , unless they have Leyline of Anticipation it's "usually" good enough. I can tutor Anguished Unmaking , however, I have to give priority up with an Omniscience on the table, so it's far too late by then. Can also destroy other random threats if needed too. She's borderline for sure. Red Elemental Blast is too slow in this case.
Angelic Arbiter was answering the Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge but now it's always Kess, Dissident Mage . Also for Tooth and Nail type encounters (eg: Craterhoof Behemoth ) or any type of haste/recursion. All together stops a few. I usually just put 1 response to any situation, because I just tutor the exclusive solution needed.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope protects against MLD type situations, but she's not difficult to remove anyway, everyone's removal deals with her no problem. If she buys me an extra turn though, it's worth it. Can also put a player on a turn timer or make them act before prepared (no Force of Will for example), sometimes... Not the strongest for sure. Or like a The Gitrog Monster looping destroy maybe...
Balefire Dragon is again, just to solve specific issues or eliminate high value ground targets. Like the others, Tainted Pact to hand whenever, a situation calls for it. I tried to cut back on creature controls (ex: Damnation ) just because its not a creature world, but often creatures can be enablers.
Baneslayer Angel cut, served no purpose other than lifelink for the Hatred but the CMC5 was too much, and only removed a single opponent. Serra Ascendant T1 "usually" puts enough pressure on 1 player (usually )), who is now on a turn timer, spending life for tutoring becomes harder, and sometimes waste time removing it. Statistically found, I was usually nearly 1 turn earlier to win with Serra Ascendant , plus overcharges me for an early Necropotence or Razaketh, the Foulblooded win or Doom Whisperer win.
Phyrexian Arena is tough, high CMC, no return. It still the second highest played card in commander, and I don't know how else to draw? Mardu is a drawing nightmare. Have to think on it, how to deal with it but agreed, same issue is with Bloodgift Demon . I've had Skyline Despot recommended has a same turn impact (draw at EOT), but also, might be ramping oppponents draw too, especially if I have no way to reconnect on attack as Skyline Despot doesn't have trample.
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight has the added benefit of removing 1-damage win-cons like Impact Tremors , Blasting Station , Goblin Bombardment , Dragon Tempest (with 1 dragon), Etc... Also puts pressure on. Usually just for a specific application though. I think my interaction package is more similar to a Thoughtseize type application, where if I can't win early, I tutor what I need to address the specific threats, instead of using Instant spell to do them? If that makes sense. Gisela, the Broken Blade i've cut.
Hellkite Tyrant was specifically answering an almost consistent Breya, Etherium Shaper deck. It's been a while since C16 set now, so definitely seeing it less and less. Might help with Teferi, Temporal Archmage or Urza, Lord High Artificer on occasion. It wasn't enough on it's own though, it also needed a Linvala, Keeper of Silence to go with it. Prior to this, I had nothing to compete with Breya, Etherium Shaper , had no way to win.
Lyra Dawnbringer is on my cut list now, might become the Sire Of Insanity or something like that. Mother of Runes works good with Master of Cruelties , also can protect Kaalia of the Vast , makes guys like Balefire Dragon unblockable too, or protects a Razaketh, the Foulblooded and becomes Tutor mana, or blocks an early Infect attack. Slow yes, but has some utility. Also can protect my Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker or Worldgorger Dragon causing me to win (instead of lose). It's borderline for sure, have to think about it. Aven Mindcensor feels good, looking for a way to include him as well as the Sire Of Insanity .
Steel Hellkite I tried for over a year, I would either, not be able to connect (no trample), or when I did, not enough mana to get the threat that I really needed to remove. I gave up on Steel Hellkite , also needs a Mother of Runes for support.
Ancient Tomb is back in, can't recall why I removed it. Think it screwed me one game with the colorless, but now that I've removed most of the colorless, it makes sense. Prismatic Vista isn't great, only 2 basics (can put in the snow's but for why), I like that it filters a land out (lower probability of drawing a land), but also destroys my mana-fixing as well, so agreed, unnecessary in this build, but feels weird.
I'm probably going to continue reducing CMC and reducing land counts as you've recommended, but needs some expensive 0-CMC rocks which I don't have, or some resource planning around alt. mana sources.
Overall goal is still to build for cEDH, understanding that consistency isn't going to push into more than a Tier-2.5/3 categorization, so I'll go over High Power again later lol.
Thinking about Interaction, I really don't want to go heavy into that with things like, Dismember or Lightning Bolt would rather let the opponents use their removal, and PRAY that I can sneak through a combo. If I combo T1 it has a fairly high success rate (other than a Pact of Negation which eliminated themselves) usually don't get stopped (Odd Force of Will or Swords to Plowshares here and there), T2 is still decently good, often others are still tutoring for a T3 win, but outside of T3 or beyond, usually I need to wait until someone tries to combo, and then is stopped, before I have a chance. I just go for it whenever I can though, increases winning % over trying to strategically go for it and being too late.
I think perhaps Red Elemental Blast or Pyroblast or both perhaps will be handy, Silence I wish it had Split Second (like Teferi's Protection ) because most combos don't have a "sorcery" speed interaction so doesn't stop. Can protect me on the turn I'm going for it like another Grand Abolisher but outside of that not highly useful. Will do some playtesting with it and see if it improves my completion % for combo and increases my combo win % because that's all that matters.
I decided not to go MLD, can Stax/MLD certainly is a strategy, but prefer just to ignore others, and just go for the win myself, win or lose. Plus I don't repopulate my hand nor ramp, so probably just slowing myself down instead of the opponents. Plus I don't have a Ravages of War so would require a financial commitment, would rather focus on finding a way to go for the win on T1-T3 more consistently.
I think if you found Kaalia of the Vast wasn't competitive using MLD before you dissolved that strategy, don't think it's the right course to go down either. Would rather try some out-of-the-box planning, and see if we can get her into a cEDH, which your comments are VERY helpful, and VERY appreciated. Think I've made some decent strides, still waiting for my card order to come in the mail so I can make some more cuts/adds to the deck!
I'll reply on high power shortly since it's lower priority, and hopefully you'll see my deck going in a stronger direction. Pushing that T1 probability up is key. I keep thinking there must be a T1 with Entomb and Goryo's Vengeance that I can do somehow? Razaketh, the Foulblooded would need another enabler, but there must be someone (like Griselbrand aka Griselbanned) to win with? Hmm.
1 month ago
Hey man! I got a few suggestions. Feel free to ignore any/all of them:
I kinda agree with PhaylogenX: Valiant Knight seems pretty good here (I see you've included it). Another pair of cards to consider for this type of role are Knight Exemplar and Kinsbaile Cavalier . They're like... good.
I think Wear / Tear is likely better than your Crush Contraband . It costs less to cast if you're only targeting one or the other, and it still costs less than Crush Contraband if you're using both halves. However, it IS destroy rather than exile; this is frequently not an issue, but if it is a meta call please do ignore me.
Since you're in black, you have access to the best tutors. Unfortunately, many of them are expensive: Things like Demonic Tutor , Vampiric Tutor and Imperial Seal are gonna set you back a lot. Consider running things like Dark Petition , Diabolic Tutor and Mastermind's Acquisition are all good cards.
Your rocks could use some work. I like the signets, but I like the talismans more. Talisman of Hierarchy , Talisman of Conviction and Talisman of Indulgence are all better than their respective signets.
You may want to consider some of the death and taxes staples. Mother of Runes and Giver of Runes are good ways to protect 'ya bois. Rest in Peace can hose a lot of decks, especially the ones I play. More generally, Stax and Hatebears can blow chunks on OPs. Winter Orb can slow down opponents from responding to your on-board pressure; Trinisphere is similar but expensive. Price of Glory can disincentivize counter-magic; Aura of Silence taxes one-sidedly in your favor.
Right. That's all I got. Good luck!
2 months ago
@lil_cheez thanks dude,
yeah, i actually want to get 37 lands in (36 normal ones + Cabal Coffers ), to ensure always having a good mana base. i already run Lightning Greaves , since it has no equip costs, and i don't have any cards that i want to target Kaalia of the Vast with (except Mother of Runes ). i prefer running Hammer of Purphoros over a 2nd Lightning Greaves / Swiftfoot Boots since it doesn't cost me an additional mana to attack with kaalia once i play her, plus i also run Hall of the Bandit Lord for the haste effect. As for Rakdos the Defiler : i actually don't usually attack with him a second time, so i don't have to sacrifice anything myself. there are some exceptions where it might be worth attacking again, but those are pretty rare, i usually keep him as a blocker, or as a sacrifice for Razaketh, the Foulblooded . Aegis Angel looks interesting, maybe i'll add it, but since i already have Avacyn, Angel of Hope , it doesn't benefit me that much. but yeah, i will add 1 (or preferably 2) more lands, i just have to decide which card(s) to remove. but thank you for the suggestions :)
Mother of Runes occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.37%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.05%
RBW (Mardu): 0.5%