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Mother of Runes
Creature — Human Cleric
: Target creature you control gains protection from the color of your choice until end of turn.
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Mother of Runes Discussion
11 hours ago
Zillabrony13: I've been wavering on Sword of Light and Shadow for a while. My main problem with it is that it protects the equipped creature from my own Benevolent Bodyguard, Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder, Mother of Runes, Stonehewer Giant, Duelist's Heritage, Sigarda's Aid, Gift of Immortality, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, and Boros Charm. On the other hand, I sometimes have problems with white decks because none of my Swords protect against it...
I'll pass on Burnished Hart, though: far far far too much mana investment for two tapped lands :(
3 days ago
Thanks for taking a look Daedalus19876 I'll be making a few changes based on your suggestions, first is Mother of Runes is now in the deck, originally I misunderstood what she did but she has now earned a spot.
Also Scroll Rack I didn't really know how to use it properly (I'd always put something on top that I wanted and accidentally tutored and shuffled it away and other various misplays) but after reading through your primer it's an auto-include for the scroll rack + land tax combo.
Most mana doublers I've tried but found they slowed me down in the past, this deck has evolved so much however so maybe Caged Sun might help. Extraplanar Lens in my meta isn't run because it's a huge target (mainly for personal reasons, I'll just say when any of my friends play it I destroyed it so they'd also be down a land and now they seek revenge.) Had to cut it from my colorless wastes deck for that reason lol.
As for the lands I've just been testing I change between 34 to 37 lands all the time since the land base is one of my biggest weakness when deck building.
I cut Haunted Cloak and am thinking about cutting Helm of Kaldra. I only keep the helm for the off chance I have the other two pieces (or Stonehewer Giant since I'll search for both those pieces anyway) and will tutor it for an indestructible 9/9 that can't be Gilded Drake'd or Toxic Deluge'd but on it's own it's kind of a dead card. What do you think?
Duelist's Heritage and Silverblade Paladin would love a spot, I'm just bad at making cuts. I can think of one card I could cut but I don't know which to add both Silverblade Paladin can beat down on his own but if I don't have another creature he's a 2/2 and is more susceptible to removal but can be recurred with both Emeria, The Sky Ruin AND Sun Titan. Duelist's Heritage seems like the stronger of the two can be tutored with Enlightened Tutor and if I understand it correctly I can give an opponents creature double strike if they hit an opponent?? Only down side I can think of is Sword of War and Peace and Etched Champion.
Again thank you for the kind words and suggestions, I previously skimmed through your primer when building this but finally fully read it ;)
4 days ago
cracks knuckles This should be fun! :)
One of the first EDH decks I ever played against was a Kemba voltron deck, and my pet deck has been my Judgment Day: Avacyn the Purifier EDH | *PRIMER* voltron list (which also might give you some ideas). There's a beauty in simplicity inherent in Voltron strategies. With some experience with Voltron, here are my thoughts on your list:
1) Generally speaking, it does work better to whack people with your commander, just to take advantage of that handy commander damage rule. But I understand that your non-reliance on your commander is the unique thing about this deck, so I won't suggest swapping commanders. That being said, I would test a few games with Sram at the helm, because he's one heck of a drug in this kind of deck ;)
2) Your creature base looks fine. The only major omission I see is the lack of Mother of Runes here. Ranger of Eos and Recruiter of the Guard can also be great tutors. And Silverblade Paladin is great for getting in faster damage and giving doubled Swords triggers...
6) With an average CMC of 3.4, I personally would not dare play as low as 34 lands (Maze of Ith doesn't count because it does not produce mana).
7) I would take a look through your equipment and cut the lower-impact ones. In any deck planning to win via combat damage, every single card needs to have a major impact when it hits the board. I've never found Deathrender or Haunted Cloak to do enough to justify their inclusion in my decks.
8) Double strike is your best friend in aggressive decks. I am currently loving Duelist's Heritage (though many of the best options are in boros colors alas).
9) Your primer seems like a good start! :)
1 week ago
Is this deck meant to be a casual or a tournament deck? What are your goals or design ideas?
At first glance, the Aether Vial doesn't work in this deck as you have too many different casting costs to make the Vial worthwhile.
I would recommend moving the Trained Caracal and Angelic Destiny to the mainboard to increase your early game creatures. Additionally, you could win a game with just the Angelic Destiny on the Trained Caracal if that was all you had. Making that change would make the Aether Vial a viable sideboard card. Then you could use the Vial when you need to sneak in a Trained Caracal or Mother of Runes under counterspells.
A quick look at Gatherer later, it looks like Hopeful Eidolon, Herald of Anafenza, Figure of Destiny, Elite Vanguard, and Doomed Traveler all look like good fits for the deck. Of course, knowing more about your idea for the deck and what direction you want to go with it would help in recommending changes.
Let me know what you think.
1 week ago
That all makes sense to me but its sad that I can't find anywhere to play legacy. I put in my time and money to build a deck that I love to play. It just sits on my desk in a box. I bought a eternal masters pack for $10 and pulled a Mother of Runes. As for as Wasteland I have 4 copies from weatherlight.
1 week ago
Damn, that is a tough budget to work with. I love the excuse though. So, lets work with it. Human tribal seems to be the way to go, as we need disruption more than anything else.
4 Mother of Runes - vs other creatures and removal and burn
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben - vs storm, mill, vehicles and burn
4 Meddling Mage - vs everything
3 Mayor of Avabruck Flip - mass pump
2 Sylvan Safekeeper - vs removal
3 Ethersworn Canonist - vs elves and storm
2 Grand Abolisher - vs counterspells
2 Deftblade Elite - vs elves
2 Kambal, Consul of Allocation - vs storm and burn, add more from the SB.
4 Phyrexian Revoker - vs storm, elves, vehicles, death and taxes
I think that this is the cheapest thing I could think of.
1 week ago
I had Uril for a bit so I'm familiar with the theme. Here are some suggestions:
Hate: Rest in Peace
One of the biggest issues that I found was dodging something like Merciless Eviction. Flickerform is really the only thing that does it. One other option is having Greater Good so at least you will benefit before your stuff dies.
A strange card that I found to do good in Uril was Mark of Fury. It gives you the haste you want and lets you replay it each turn to net a card if you have something like Argothian Enchantress in play.
2 weeks ago
About the lands, i'm trying to leave 20 and junt 2 Rogue's Passage. Looks like its working good.
About the artifacts, i removed them and put 2 Whispersilk Cloak to protect the priority card of the deck. Other thing i will do is to put the Intrepid Hero and Devout Chaplain on the side, to get 4 more cards to put. I put 2 more Mother of Runes and 2 Thalia's Lieutenant. What do you think?
What do you think?
Thanks again for your help.