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Leonin Abunas Discussion
3 weeks ago
This is much better.
I still have a few suggestions though.
- I don't clearly see any win conditions other than a normal beat down. So you're either a genius or I'm missing something.
- I recommend adding some "insurance" for your vehicles in the form of Darksteel Forge and Leonin Abunas.
- For a lot of crew quickly I'd suggest Midnight Guard + Presence of Gond it also helps with the life gain upon entry you have.
- What is your plan for Altar of Dementia?
I love the name change BTW.
1 month ago
Hey man, here are my thoughts
First, although I know your manabase isn't finished, I'd recommend running at 37 lands total.
Second, it's important to consider which equipment are powerful with this strategy, especially with Mirri. You'll likely need ways to keep her from dying. Since she has first strike, giving her deathtouch in addition will make it such that she will always kill the opposing creature before it deals damage, making her almost invincible in combat. You've already mentioned Quietus Spike, but other must-includes for this deck (imo) are Gorgon's Head, Gorgon Flail, and Basilisk Collar. You may also want to have ways to keep Mirri from dying to board wipes and removal. Darksteel Plate and Shield of Kaldra are both about 5 bucks, but they're pretty good. Cards that prevent targeting can be good, but hexproof is preferable to shroud. However, some shroud giving cards, such as Lightning Greaves and General's Kabuto. Mask of Avacyn gives Hexproof, but it's not a Great equipment.
Third, let's consider the equipment you're including. You want most of them to be strong enough to make a single creature into a threat on its own. You've already included cards like Argentum Armor, but frankly you don't really have enough equipment. I'm gonna list a bunch of equipment in various categories here that are worth considering (Sorry if some of this is already in your deck).
Fourth, let's look at your creatures. In commander, lower-impact things tend to be outclassed quickly. As such, you generally want your creatures to either be significant threats or utility. Some creatures that I feel are worth cutting are:
Jareth, Leonine Titan (Not a particularly good card. He's only got a good size when blocking)
Leonin Relic-Warder (He's likely to die over the course of the game. Long-lasting removal is better)
Oreskos Explorer (You're in green, so your ramp spells are likely to be land-focused)
Phantom Nishoba (You'll probably want something stronger for you 7 mana. It's basically a 7-mana 7/7 with lifelink/trample and a downside.)
Qasali Ambusher (This creature just isn't impactful on its own)
Sunspear Shikari (This one is also low impact. I wouldn't play a 2-mana 2/2 with both of those abilities natively in commander, and this card is worse than that.)
Don't get too attached to the cat theme. Have it be something you can take advantage of, but don't put in a bad card just because it's a cat. Additionally, don't be averse to putting in noff-type creatures when doing so improves your deck.
Let's look at some creatures that might improve your deck.
Eight-and-a-Half-Tails (Can help get your other creatures through for damage or protect them from removal. A tricky one to play with, but with high upside)
Sram, Senior Edificer (Card draw is A1 in commander, and this guy gets it for you while also carrying equipment)
Odric, Lunarch Marshal (Makes one threat into a whole team of them)
Leonin Warleader (Makes more vessels for the equipment, which have lifelink and benefit from tribal synergies)
Taj-Nar Swordsmith (Gets you what you need when you need it. Make sure you know what you're looking for though!)
Grand Abolisher (Gives you a lot more control over combat on your turn)
Leonin Abunas (Protects your equipment. May be unecessary, but worth considering)
Indomitable Archangel (As above, but it also has flying, which makes it even better.)
Brass Squire (Sneakily fantastic. Avoids the equip cost while also letting you move an equipment at instant speed)
Auriok Windwalker (As above, but it also has flying, which...huh, deja vu)
Mother of Runes (Good for defending from removal or getting a creature through combat)
Armory Automaton (Note: this can take your opponents' equipment as well. They can re-equip it, but not until they get back to their own turn.)
Alms Collector (This is a good cat. Worth including on its own merits. Takes stuff away from the blue player.)
Stone Haven Outfitter (Insurance for a board wipe. Your deck is weak to them, so keep an eye out for ways to protect your team.)
Mentor of the Meek (More card draw since most of your creatures are cheap)
Adorned Pouncer (Not sure about this one, but it has double strike and can come back from the dead, so that's something)
Mirran Crusader (This guy sees modern and legacy play for a reason. He hits hard and doesn't die easy)
Silverblade Paladin (The ability to give another creature double strike is fantastic.)
Steelshaper Apprentice (Weird card, but lets you get what you need.)
Emeria Shepherd (Another way to rebuild after a wipe. Consider holding this in hand w/ a few lands rather than playing it out.)
Jhoira's Familiar (Makes equipment and legendary creatures cheaper and has flying.)
1 month ago
1 month ago
Hi JoeBlondie, it's been a while since I had the pleasure of playing this deck. But recently it was back in action and did make a serious stand. After my night of letting Sram go nuts from time to time, I headed back here to see what could be improved and I examined all the latest comments as well.
Leonin Abunas was a wasted draw in one of those games. Reading your comment changed my mind and I let it go...
The double strike suggestions are really spot on. So Silverblade Paladin and Battle Mastery found a home in this deck. Black sacrifice is becoming a thing in our meta, so your analysis of having more bodies is lifesaving indeed!
Mask of Memory seems really interesting and the filtering feels really in place. This is something I am going to give a serious try.
Ancient Tomb has been added too, together with a few other new cards. I could not believe that the tomb wasn't in this deck yet. I guess I always assumed it was in here already. Excellent catch!
Thank you very much for your indepth evaluation!!
1 month ago
Hi! I like some of the changes you've made (most of them, actually) but I also think that Merciless Eviction is probably a better card than Urza's Ruinous Blast. It's still more versatile, and it answer's more problems. This might be a bit niche (or a lot) but sometimes I've encountered a Voltron deck with Darksteel Plate and Lightning Greaves, and the Merciless Eviction dealt with that. Despite not having it at the moment, the deck also had Leonin Abunas, in which case, artifact removal doesn't work either. I admit that the scenario I'm picturing is one in a thousand, but it happens sometimes. That being said, I wouldn't swap one for the other, I would include both :)
3 months ago
Next I think you really need to up the number of cards in your deck that give you lands, sword of the animist is GREAT but it can't do all the work so here's a catalog of them:
- Wayfarer's Bauble
- Burnished Hart
- Expedition Map
- Gift of Estates
- Myriad Landscape
- Surveyor's Scope
- Thaumatic Compass Flip
That's all I could find and the ones that put them onto the battlefield are notably better because combat tricks.
These next suggestions are if you stay more artifact focused, and just general good cards for Voltron:
- Basilisk Collar
- Emeria sheperd
- Umezawa's Jitte
- Sram, Senior Edificer
- Hanna, Ship's Navigator
- Sword of Vengeance
- Masterwork of Ingenuity
- Sculpting Steel
- Blinkmoth Urn
- Silent Arbiter
- Cathedral of War
- Remember the Fallen
- Leonin Abunas
- Magus of the Tabernacle
Sorry if I went too overboard... Also sorry for the lack of black voltron, I just don't know much black voltron-y stuff. Ok. to-da-loo!
3 months ago
DrkNinja: Those are some amazing recommendations. I do want to know which cards you feel are the best to cut for some of these as I'm new to voltron. I ran a bunch of control creatures to kind of help maintain a board state in my meta which is usually 1v1 or 3 player. I own everything you mentioned bar Replenish, Scourglass, Leonin Abunas, and Spirit Loop.
3 months ago
You almost have all the forms of Nahiri!
Also I think in a voltron deck you should have fewer quantity of creatures and more quality creatures. For instance run 8 REALLY good creatures that can be voltron'd or help you voltron vs. 20 creatures that are good in white but not specifically voltron.
Here are a few cards I play in my voltron deck Samurai From The Past! that I think will be of some service too you:
- Spectra Ward: Great card, does a LOT
- Armored Ascension: You only play plains, why not?
- Gift of Immortality: If you are trying to get commander damage across this is a great, otherwise its decent
- Spirit Loop: This may read like lifelink, but it is not lifelink, so you would be able to gain double the life if a creature with lifelink and spirit loop deals damage.
- Remember the Fallen: Solid recursion
- Open the Vaults: Great to bring your stuff back and isn't as expensive as Replenish
- Open the Armory: Great tutor for enchantment or equipment without the pricetag of Enlightened Tutor
- Ajani Steadfast: His +1 is great for Voltron, his -2 is meh, and his ult is great.
- Dispatch: Another path for this deck
- Vedalken Orrery: You always want to be able to play cards at instant speed, as it gives you more control of what happens to the board, specifically your board.
- Scourglass: this deals with problems and keeps all your equipment around to reequip
- Loxodon Warhammer: One of the best non-sword voltron pieces
- Argentum Armor: With the likes of Caged Sun and Extraplanar Lens, you have plenty of mana and you can just go in with a big dude and blow up people's stuff
- Basilisk Collar: Don't underestimate this card, it's so good.
- Magus of the Tabernacle: This is in my Konda Voltron deck (Samurai From The Past! Check it out please!), and it puts a huge strain on go wide strategies and makes players very carefully assess what they want to do in their turn. Either they pay the to keep their 5 creatures or they play a spell, while you are just going to pay the for whatever creature you have Voltron'd
- Leonin Abunas: Great to help deal with people picking apart your assembled voltron creature
- Leonin Shikari: Again instant speed is always a big deal, combat tricks and what not.