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Final Fortune Discussion
1 week ago
Well, in the obvious sense, I already knew that doing that would result in separate tokens. As for Greater Gargadon, you still didn't mention it would be re:Suspended w/ cards like Eldrazi Displacer, (& to be more of a variety if one doesn't run , or .), Deadeye Navigator (At least while Soulbonded.), among others that exile permanents & returns them to play at some point, griffstick.
That Said, I can't fragging believe you guys would think either Prototype Portal, & Ugin's Nexus is considered good in cEDH. Or am I still incorrect? If so, I'll remove at least Nexus, & from there, this deck won't have Time Magic (Magistrate's Scepter does Charge Counters, & Gonti's Aether Heart uses the same Counter Concept; something Boros is, like I said, not good with... & don't get me started on Final Fortune & Sorcery Cousins & Glorious End; being forced to lose a game against your options is something I won't make the mistake of again...). Geez though, those aren't even staples. X/
1 week ago
NOTE: This is a topic regarding cEDH Boros. If you think there is no hope for it, do NOT post on this. (The Bold should be warning enough...)
After trying to cut some stuff to 100 for some things, I realized, there is some others to do regarding one deck:
Commander / EDH*
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I previously wanted this to be Tier 3, as one joke cEDH deck (Depala, of all things.), did this. But this is a serious attempt by all means. That said, I'll mention some things worth note to get at least just a little bit closer to my goal:
- Red Elemental Blast, or Pyroplast?
Both of their most recent prints state their abilities differently. Pyroblast has:
Choose one — • Counter target spell if it's blue. • Destroy target permanent if it's blue.
Red Elemental Blast?
Choose one — • Counter target blue spell. • Destroy target blue permanent.
This seems written differently; but I dunno how this is different from the others. Regardless, cEDH usually smiles upon . So I'll leave it to you to decide...
This is a biggie. One person not known for cEDH believes this is a real dud of a wincon. But I'd like some opinions o this. If this really does suck, at least that's 3 cuts so far. Aside from this, Grand Abolisher does wonders here.
This is new as I found that Magistrate's Scepter is just one target for counters; something I know FOR A FACT Boros is NOT good at in the slightest (There, a minus. See? I can agree w/ you too. 0-^) Prototype Portal can imprint any artifact; which can range from an infinite mana via Lotus Petal, or Infinite Turns w/ Ugin's Nexus. Problem? I have little to nothing to destroy the copy is opposed to exiling it. Plus, this is quite expensive; but I don't want to use Final Fortune + Sundial of the Infinite loops; they can be disrupted; besides, this is the only option left (Gonti's Aether Heart is more expensive anyway.). Bonus points for infinite mana in case Ugin's Nexus is a skip. I'll let you decide.
- How the bloody devil is Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite a staple?!
I'm confused about this; happy, but confused. Usually stuff lower than 3 CMC would be fine; but one cEDH Staples lists actually lists her on the main list. runs Dorks, & so few even reach a 3+ toughness. Should I get rid of her for CMC's sake? or should I keep her as a Gamekiller?
W/ so many doing stuff outside of Lifeloss/lifegain, this should be very important to note as others would either Self-Mill via Laboratory Maniac, Maze's End a game, basically put; Wincons that don't depend on Life Total. So, should I put in stuff like these, Goblin Chainwhirler, or other things that can kill life totals? Otherwise, I at least have Altar of the Brood to mill everyone else... XP
After knowing about creatures outside of that can produce Mana, I decided Neheb, the Eternal is no longer enough (It actually requires Damage dealing to make it work; so, I'm thinking of cutting him; considering nobody really wants to damage anyways.). While I could flicker [Farrelite Priest]] & make her new, w/o previous memory, I want to leave it to you; w/ so much Devotion to , Should I rather increase the amount of Plains & decrease the number of Mountains? (I have Blood Moon Anyway...). If she is crap to you, I want to know why; I cannot run Avacyn's Pilgrim you know.
Yes, I get it. Tamiyo's Journal is the only Target of this inspector. That said, Tamiyo's Journal can search for anything. Problem? One target. Not consistent enough, & nobody is recommending a card like Tamiyo's Journal that can also work on its own... Ideas are welcome.
This combo came to me in the form of an Epiphany. After I blow up all lands, I can flicker Fiend Hunter exiling Sun Titan to bring all my lands back; yes, this is possible. Since Lands are 0CMC Permanents, I can bring them all back to my side. even a combo like this can't be stopped by the next part of this charade...
Some of the best cards in this deck so far. It promotes a Prison-Lock for all Graveyards in play. Since this deck should be able to have effects that bypass both of these; I just want to know what to cut due to these...
- I still need an explanation for Rule of Law/Eidolon of Rhetoric + Possibility Storm + Knowledge Pool.
This also applies to what I can use for Arcane Laboratory in . This combo has been looked up, but I dunno how it'll work here... It should be useful, but I dunno if it's cEDH competitive or not; much less how it works. If this is good both ways, I'm keeping them. At least tell me how it works, please...
- Squee Sucks?
Squee, the Immortal + Goblin Bombardment was meant to be used as a combo here. But since this uses Eldrazi Displacer to flicker ETB/CIP Creatures, I'm thinking of cutting the former 2 unless I can find a card that mimics Displacer's effect, so I don't have to have just one of such effect to waste... Felidar Guardian?
- The Emancipation Proclamation NEVER happened...
Emancipation Angel is something not to be cross with. She can return any permanent you control to your hand. Simple as that. Since it's an ETB ability, Eldrazi Displacer can bounce her, & she can do this again. If you want a list of Creatures in my deck that are ETB/CIP based, SUGOI! LET'S KICK As- Captain Janeway: Asteroids. Seven of Nine: Fun will now commence.
(Yes. I LITERALLY pulled off a Star Trek: Voyager.)
Duergar Hedge-Mage Fiend Hunter Goblin Chainwhirler Goblin Settler Imperial Recruiter Mentor of the Meek Mikaeus, the Lunarch Priest of Urabrask Recruiter of the Guard Solemn Simulacrum Sun Titan Thraben Inspector Village Bell-Ringer Wall of Omens Wily Goblin
(Damn, that's a lot... I need to lessen the lot...)
- No Paradox Engine? What the crap?
Paradox Engine is the only thing I have to Isochron Scepter imprinting Dramatic Reversal, so it NEEDS to stay; plus, I could've sworn it was a staple here... While this has quite some ETB/CIP effects, that doesn't have to mean things can't be cast either. Even stuff like Sunforger when casting instants are still considered cast. Even Mistveil Plains can bring them back. I really just wanted to throw in Reito Lantern, though; but cards like Grafdigger's Cage might mess w/ it; so it's now a skip.
- Stax on STACKS on [email protected]
Recently, I wanted to take this deck to a differing route; Value Town/Stax/Prison. This in turn meant a lot of stuff; Glowrider, Thorn of Amethyst (How fitting as it's my birthstone; but I still hated how STEVEN UNIVERSE personified her as a character since the beginning... :/), Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Vryn Wingmare, Ethersworn Canonist, Kismet, even Sphere of Resistance is damn good here. While a lot would think stuff like this is crap here, even stuff like Stranglehold, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Grand Abolisher, even Ugin's Nexus & Defense Grid are all great here. Irony? Many wouldn't see all this as competitive enough. So, w/ all that said, one last thing...
- Any ideas for a new CMDR?
Alright, we're almost done with what might be my longest post here ever... I've been thinking for the longest time; I need a new commander; Gisela, Blade of Goldnight is too much now. Since I took the liberty to change from Stax/Control (Or Value Town/Stax? I dun remember...) to Value Town/Stax/Prison. From there, I decided to make a change of CMDR. But there were bigger flaws w/ most, so I decided to make some regulations:
- No Tier 5 CMDRs.
- No Tribal Commanders (Stuff like Depala, Pilot Exemplar apply here.)
- Partners are only Allowed if not from BBD (Battlebond) (Khorvath Brightflame + Sylvia Brightspear for instance is not allowed.)
- Equipment/Aura Based CMDRS are out; I don't have any of that anyway...
I guess this is alright? The reason I left out 5. It must be Aggro Based is, well, the rest of the Tier 4s w/o only counting none of them.
Now I leave all this to you: What should I cut for a legit Tier 3 cEDH deck? I apologize for the Mammoth Sized Text, but it should be worth the effort.
I am open to Constructive Criticism only. I hope this is of good help for what is worth of help to me. I'll let you decide on my fate on this deck now.
1 month ago
First of, thumbs up on your youtube channel: it's in my opinion some the best commander content available on the platform!
The issue with these two is that once somebody has seen the deck win a single game, none of the one-eyed partners live to see two turns... Knowing this, I built my version based on pure chaos to virtually and politically protect them, with an artifact subtheme which allows me to have a nice tutoring package for Krak's Thumb (something you mentionned in your last video I think).
I'm also using as many Hive Mind effects as I can to win games with certain extra turn spells like Last Chance or Final Fortune, which fit the spirit of the deck quite well. I wouldn't advise somebody to do this though, it's not the most efficient way to win a game (but then again, we're still playing coin flipping commanders)...
1 month ago
Hey Openfire, thanks for the feedback. That's a good point, and I do think Final Fortune, Pull from Tomorrow, and Braingeyser could be cut for Ponder, Preordain, and Brainstorm. On the other hand, Silence and Zealous Persecution are decent interaction slots. Silence is , and it forces your opponents to counter it. It also does wonders with Isochron Scepter against a deck like Yidris Melt Banana, Selvala Brostorm, or even Thrasios/Tymna Doomtide a lot of the time. Zealous Persecution is to kill all the good mana dorks in the format, except Selvala. This slows down a lot of decks in the format, as mana dorks are pretty dominant in cEDH. Rebuild and rocks are something I'm not entirely sure about; there are some cute interactions with the rocks (Helm of Awakening, Paradoxical Outcome, Dramatic Reversal), but they don't do much aside from that. I think I'll cut 4 of them for now. Thanks!
1 month ago
This deck looks pretty good, but it has a lot of chaff and slow cards/ niche ones I don't think are playable. Specifically I think Final Fortune, Pull from Tomorrow, Silence, Zealous Persecution, Rebuild, several talismans or signets (13 two mana rocks is excessive), and Braingeyser are all too slow or have better other options. If you're having consistency issues it's almost definitely because you have no cantrips or selection (other than Git Probe). Ponder, Preordain, and Brainstorm are all great options. I play a comparable theme whiteless Yidris deck
2 months ago
You already have most of the budget staples but a simple, game winning combo is a traditional kiki-jiki infinite loop with either conscripts or celebrant to get either infinite combats or 3/3s. As of now the components for this combo are at around 30 dollars total.
If you think Tooth is too expensive, substitute Samut, the Tested.
Any amount of creature tutors you include in your deck will substantially increase the competitiveness. They are usually expensive.
Finally, since radha can generate resources for you in combat, employing land destruction and resource denial can be a solid strategy as well. With a Vigor spells like Wildfire and Destructive Force become advantageous mass pump spells. Boom / Bust or cycling Decree of Annihilation can strip opponents of their only mana sources leaving you with a usually insurmountable advantage.
2 months ago
Platinum Angel, though it's a bit difficult to cast without ramp.
Gideon of the Trials, though it's subject to being able to keep it alive.
2 months ago
Hey 4doublexx, thanks for the feedback. Yes, the win condition is tazing people with Aetherflux Reservoir. As far as the cards you suggested, here's your irony for the day: Epic Experiment might be pretty good (41 instants/sorceries), and Empty the Warrens and Grapeshot aren't really necessary. Epic Experiment will probably hit 3 free spells for x=5, which is a fantastic mana sink if you ever activate Ramos. I was already thinking about cutting Final Fortune, and the experiment is probably taking its place. As for the silly fun cards, hit me the heckin' frick up. I'm all for it.