Nin, the Pain Artist

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Custom Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Commander 2017 (C17) Rare
MTG: Commander (CMD) Rare
Promo Set (000) Rare

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Nin, the Pain Artist

Legendary Creature — Vedalken Wizard

, : Nin, the Pain Artist deals X damage to target creature. That creature's controller draws X cards.

Nin, the Pain Artist Discussion

18ths on Five-Mizzet Re-experienced

4 weeks ago

Update 1:

I noticed that my initial list lacked some ramp. Some cards also underperformed, so here's the changes:

Deathsprout replaces Mortify - Not being able to remove enchantments is not an issue as there's still some powerful interaction. The ability to ramp while removing stuff justifies additional cost.

Torrent of Souls replaces Grave Upheaval - A bit cheaper with an additional upside of pumping all creatures so you have payoff for creating all those tokens. Worth sacrificing that basic landcycling.

Camaraderie replaces Gelatinous Genesis - I found Genesis to be a massive win more and conditional card. It gets really good IF you manage to get a lot of exp counters and put Mizzix on the table. Camaraderie is a solid card that does a lot of stuff this deck wants to achieve.

Kiora's Follower replaces Incubation Druid - Despite +1/+1 counters subtheme, I found that it's actually pretty hard to put them on Druid. I also thought it can give mana of any color. Follower is similiar to Druid, but is fetchable, can untap Gates or Deathrite Shaman when I need them or give pseudo-vigilance to creatures.

Astral Cornucopia replaces Commander's Sphere , Mirrodin's Core replaces Mountain - Not putting them in a deck with proliferate theme was an obvious oversight.

Jhoira of the Ghitu replaces Nin, the Pain Artist - I put Nin as a cheap multicolored card that can be also valuable later. But the value than Nin provides is quite expensive, and using it as removal is even worse. Old Jhoira is also cheap and cheating stuff for low cost is always great.

I'm also looking for cuts to put Ramos, Dragon Engine (put him along with Ezuri and live the dream) and Maw of the Obzedat here (great payoff for tokens and costless sac engine)

Heliogabale on Needful Things

1 month ago

Cool deck!

Personally, I would lose the discard sub-theme and one-use cards like tutors and less-value draw to make room for cards with more synergy.

Suggestions for cuts :

  • Counterflux
  • Vision Skeins
  • Diabolic Tutor
  • Mystic Retrieval
  • Pull from the Deep
  • Liliana's Caress
  • Megrim
  • Waste Not
  • Geth's Grimoire

Suggestions for adds:

Hope this helps!

multimedia on Partners in Pinging

3 months ago

Hey, interesting concept for a deck.

Budget cards ($5 or less each) to consider adding:

Good luck with your deck.


VietMoneys on Official missing/incorrect card/token thread

4 months ago

Hello again, Femme_Fatale! Hope all is well. Here is a list of the cards missing their 2018 Judge Promo printing:

Commander's Sphere

Food Chain

Lord of Atlantis

Merchant Scroll

Nin, the Pain Artist

Rhystic Study

Teferi's Protection

Vampiric Tutor

Hi-res art is available on Scryfall here: https://scryfall.com/sets/j18

If there's some way I can help get these into the system let me know. I've tried using the add card function to no avail. I know you mentioned previous promotional printings being a pinch point, but I believe Vampiric Tutor is the only card that this might effect (and there is still room to use "Promo Set for Gatherer" instead, I believe.

Thanks again for the support on this so far!

Njirk on Dragonlord Silumgar

5 months ago

Hi there, I'm from the advertise your commander thread.

I used to have a Nin, the Pain Artist deck based on stealing and copying your opponents stuff. I always liked to win using your opponents cards, so its nice to see a deck with a similar theme.

I think your current build has a lot of room for optimization as there are many cards that have strictly or subjectively better counterparts. These are some suggestions for cards I would replace and what with:

I would probably drop the flicker subtheme you currently have because you dont run a lot of creatures and go down a few lands (37 should be fine) in favor of more draw (Rhystic Study & Mystic Remora are nice). Also, one of the good things about black is the access to tutors. By adding tutors you increase the consistency of your deck, as they effectively serve as an extra copy of all the other cards in your deck. Lim-Dul's Vault, Beseech the Queen and Dark Petition are some good relatively cheap ones. (If you want to invest a bit of money in it, Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor are great.)

I hope this helps and good luck with deckbuilding!

PS. Dont forget to comment on the previously posted deck in the 'advertise your commander deck' thread. ;)

chromosohm on Inalla: Steal Your Heart

5 months ago

Of the suggested cuts, I outright removed Voidmage Prodigy and AEther Adept. Voidmage as a means of being both a sac outlet while also providing some interaction though ultimately he can't make a lot of use out of the tokens created which is part of why I think he's worth cutting. The second is AEther Adept which while being reusable creature bounce for 4 mana, has her affect elsewhere and so can be removed as stronger abilities exist such as Barrin, Master Wizard, Venser, Shaper Savant, Mystic Confluence, and Galecaster Colossus.

As for the rest, here's the reasoning for each: Vedalken AEthermage - wizardcycling is huge and lets me get whatever wizard I need which is a huge amount of flexibility.

Anathemancer - potential win-con if i have a repeatable flicker or naban/panharmonicon out).

Deadeye Navigator - repeatable flicker ability which can be big game for most ETB creatures.

Sundial of the Infinite - lets the tokens stay forever. This seems like a really cool effect and getting the tokens to last forever just seems like such a crazy interaction and value generator.

Chaos Warp - Gets rid of anything on the table in red which is critical considering there's no specific enchantment removal in the deck.

Barrin, Master Wizard - is a repeatable bounce and sac outlet which is really helpful.

Nin, the Pain Artist - serves several purposes (removal, card draw, and given infinite mana which the deck can generate, can be an instant death button that is difficult to counter).

Master of Waves - another bounce win-con for the deck. Even given two copies, he's got a lot of potential to create a ton of creatures. Added with flicker effects/sundial of the infinite and it becomes a total house.

I think I'll avoid most of the creatures as counter spells but Patron Wizard and Kira, Great Glass-Spinner are great suggestions just a little bit out of budget right now.

As for copying and stealing creatures, I think those are both really good suggestions! What are your thoughts on Cytoplast Manipulator vs Beguiler of Wills or Echo Mage vs Sigil Tracer.

But I think both start to move the deck into a certain direction (focusing on stealing stuff or copying spells) which is maybe exactly what it needs.

SamsWrath on Inalla: Steal Your Heart

5 months ago

Drop these:

If you want a few creatures that can counter spells maybe try:

Also, these wizards might help yout sub-themes of copying spells and stealing creatures:

Let me know if there's a specific reason you're using a card I suggested to remove.

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