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Nin, the Pain Artist
Legendary Creature — Vedalken Wizard
, : Nin, the Pain Artist deals X damage to target creature. That creature's controller draws X cards.
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Nin, the Pain Artist Discussion
1 month ago
Kederekt Parasite is definitely really good, and you've kind of convinced me on it.
With regard to what I took out, I decided that even though Dissipation Field does nonbo with Spiteful Visions , that it provides enough of disincentive for people attacking me that I'm okay with it. I also left Nin, the Pain Artist and Niv-Mizzet, Parun in the deck as they are really powerful cards which can jump me ahead a lot. With all of the duel lands I have, I have never been unable to cast Niv, and I also just think that Nin is good since she lets me sink mana into her if I don't have to counter something after a turn cycle. Lastly, I left in The Magic Mirror as it can provide a lot of card draw and value, and most of the time, I can cast it for not that much.
I did end up taking out Kess, Dissident Mage , Bone Miser , Prosperity , and Sphinx's Tutelage though. I agree with you on Sphinx's as it really only feels good in a 1v1 for mill. Kess and Bone Miser both felt like a mana sink which I always felt bad about since they only mildly synergize with the rest of my cards and require a lot of investment up front. Lastly, Prosperity just never felt as good as a wheel since everyone gets to hold their cards except for me.
Thanks again for all your help!
3 months ago
I know you're looking for non-wheel card draw. I don't love cantrips in EDH unless there is a number-of-spells-matters effect in play but they can smooth out a deck a bit. Ponder , Preordain , Portent , Sleight of Hand , Serum Visions , etc. The sweet spot in around 3-5 CMC for me, ideally drawing CMC -1 but there aren't a ton of spells that efficient. I don't love Divination in EDH (2 for 3) but it's the gold-standard in 60-card decks for a quickie hand refill. There are tons of efficient cards like Divination too.
There are a ton of "draw 3, discard 1" for 4 or 5 mana, which are okay. Sift , Trial of Knowledge , and Amass the Components , for example. Many are costed for being commons, which isn't where you wanna be in EDH. There should be plenty of good, efficient cards to draw from though. At the same time, you have a lot of great high-CMC draw, like Consecrated Sphinx and Thought Reflection, so having a few Divination effects might smooth out your draws.
Some suggestions: Concentrate , Windfall , Cathartic Reunion , Plea for Power , Tidings , Nin, the Pain Artist , Finale of Revelation , Mind Spring , Braingeyser , Stroke of Genius , Blue Sun's Zenith , Fact or Fiction , Chart a Course , Ugin's Insight , Treasure Cruise , Dig Through Time , Kumena's Awakening , Fevered Visions , Honden of Seeing Winds , Reverse Engineer , Read the Runes , Precognitive Perception , Distant Memories , Arcane Encyclopedia , Endless Atlas , Trail of Evidence , Theft of Dreams , Borrowing 100,000 Arrows , Nezahal, Primal Tide , Kefnet the Mindful , Cavalier of Gales , Combustible Gearhulk , Thassa, God of the Sea , Shared Discovery , Secrets of the Golden City , Vivisection , Weight of Memory , Recurring Insight , Breakthrough , Niv-Mizzet, Parun , Deep Analysis , Gush , Invoke the Firemind , Expansion / Explosion , Chandra, Flamecaller , Dragon Mage , Wild Guess , Tormenting Voice , Arch of Orazca , Runehorn Hellkite , Conqueror's Galleon Flip, Kraum, Ludevic's Opus , Ludevic, Necro-Alchemist , Commune with Lava .
4 months ago
I am Corbeau and just started to put my decks on here. I play casually with a nice playgroup. We don't play very competetive and love combo decks. I am usually the person with nearly no removal because I always think that if it doesn't help my strategy it isn't a card for my deck and I want the others to have fun, too. Also I feel restricted in my creativity when I think about the meta or so. So quite often I am in a race to get my deck going and keep my stuff because others don't hesitate do remove everything on my side. I love weird and janky deck strategies. The decks I have at the moment are the ones I play and the one that survived all the building of decks. Very often it is more brewing than playing because we don't get together that often and the EDH community in my city is very competetive. I prefer an environment in which people have fun and don't flame each other all the time.
My Decks at the Moment:
EDH: Alesha, Who Smiles at Death (Aristrocrats) Prime Speaker Zegana (Draw Combo) Prime Speaker Vannifar (Podless Pod) Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons (-1/-1 Counters) Atraxa, Praetors' Voice (Any Counters] Kess, Dissident Mage (Spellslinger) Ghave, Guru of Spores (+1/+1 Counters) Kambal, Consul of Allocation (Lifedrain Prison) Omnath, Locus of Rage (Landfall/Elemental) Daxos the Returned (Enchantress)
Former Decks (I hope I remember all):
EDH: + Atraxa, Praetors' Voice (All cards with counters) Sun Quan, Lord of Wu (Milling) + The Scarab God (Milling) + Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive (Only power 1 or less/Tokens) Talrand, Sky Summoner (Spellslinger) Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet (gravepact) Kozilek, the Great Distortion (Eldrazi) Sidisi, Brood Tyrant (Milling) Sidisi, Brood Tyrant (Reanimator) Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle (Historic/Reanimator) Nin, the Pain Artist (Artifacts) Nin, the Pain Artist (Milling) Odric, Lunarch Marshal (White Weenie) + Masako the Humorless (Historic/ Throne of the God-Pharaoh ) Padeem, Consul of Innovation (Artifacts) + Kiku, Night's Flower ( Kiku's Shadow / Ragged Veins ) Grenzo, Havoc Raiser (Spellsnatching) Sydri, Galvanic Genius (Beautiful Art/Control) Tatyova, Benthic Druid (Beautiful Art/Copy/Draw/Token) Karlov of the Ghost Council (Lifedrain) Obzedat, Ghost Council (Lifedrain) + Obzedat, Ghost Council (Flicker/Token) Akiri, Line-Slinger / Ludevic, Necro-Alchemist (Artifacts/Non-Voltron)
Sadly many of my decks didn't work because of the meta and power level in my playgroup but some were so much fun to play. Favorites marked with + at the front.
I will try to upload the decklists of my current decks. If you have questions about any of the former decks or anything just ask.
Love and happyness Corbeau
4 months ago
Having no experience with Pingers, I do think you could use some more draw. You may have gone this route, but there's a whole avenue you can open up to ping yourself for value. I see Silverclad Ferocidons , but maybe consider Nin, the Pain Artist or Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind for on-them draw. Izzet Staticaster would be at home here with upside vs tokens, as does Willbreaker or Cowardice . I would look for untaps too, a la Intruder Alarm or Freed from the Real , but I can't think of many in these colors. The ol' dramatic scepter wincon (I use it in my awful Shu Yun deck) is popular, and can be sniffed out early, so pack loads of control to ensure you get it through.
6 months ago
I noticed that my initial list lacked some ramp. Some cards also underperformed, so here's the changes:
Camaraderie replaces Gelatinous Genesis - I found Genesis to be a massive win more and conditional card. It gets really good IF you manage to get a lot of exp counters and put Mizzix on the table. Camaraderie is a solid card that does a lot of stuff this deck wants to achieve.
Kiora's Follower replaces Incubation Druid - Despite +1/+1 counters subtheme, I found that it's actually pretty hard to put them on Druid. I also thought it can give mana of any color. Follower is similiar to Druid, but is fetchable, can untap Gates or Deathrite Shaman when I need them or give pseudo-vigilance to creatures.
Jhoira of the Ghitu replaces Nin, the Pain Artist - I put Nin as a cheap multicolored card that can be also valuable later. But the value than Nin provides is quite expensive, and using it as removal is even worse. Old Jhoira is also cheap and cheating stuff for low cost is always great.
7 months ago
Personally, I would lose the discard sub-theme and one-use cards like tutors and less-value draw to make room for cards with more synergy.
Suggestions for cuts :
- Vision Skeins
- Diabolic Tutor
- Mystic Retrieval
- Pull from the Deep
- Liliana's Caress
- Waste Not
- Geth's Grimoire
Suggestions for adds:
- Library of Leng (Very important in this deck!)
- Kess, Dissident Mage
- Master of the Feast
- Nin, the Pain Artist
- Seizan, Perverter of Truth
- Stormbreath Dragon
- Memory Jar
- Ob Nixilis Reignited
- Khorvath's Fury
Hope this helps!
9 months ago
Hey, interesting concept for a deck.
Budget cards ($5 or less each) to consider adding:
- Exotic Orchard
- Yavimaya Coast
- Cinder Glade
- Game Trail
- Shivan Reef
- Willbreaker : gain control of your opponents creatures by pinging them.
- Niv-Mizzet, Parun : combos with Curiosity/Sense/Eye to do infinite damage.
- Mystic Remora : excellent repeatable draw in multiplayer Commander.
- Nin, the Pain Artist : ping your own creature for a lot of damage and draw a lot of cards combos with Doll.
- Stuffy Doll
- Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh Flip
- Cinder Pyromancer
- Fervor : give pingers haste.
- Skullclamp : lots of 1 toughness creatures here makes Clamp good backup draw.
- Trinket Mage : tutor for one of Collar/Head/Ring/Skullclamp.
Good luck with your deck.
10 months ago
Hi-res art is available on Scryfall here: https://scryfall.com/sets/j18
If there's some way I can help get these into the system let me know. I've tried using the add card function to no avail. I know you mentioned previous promotional printings being a pinch point, but I believe Vampiric Tutor is the only card that this might effect (and there is still room to use "Promo Set for Gatherer" instead, I believe.
Thanks again for the support on this so far!
Nin, the Pain Artist occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%