Kaalia of the Vast

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Kaalia of the Vast

Legendary Creature — Human Cleric

Flying

Whenever Kaalia of the Vast attacks an opponent, you may put an Angel, Demon or Dragon creature card from your hand onto the battlefield tapped and attacking that opponent.

ThassaUpYo@ssa on Angry Birds

3 weeks ago

Profet93

Agreed on Chromatic Lantern - currently brainstorming a solid replacement, leaning towards an additional card draw spell. Thoughts? Also, my color wheel seems damn near spot from a land mana-to-color cost perspective.

Are there any creatures in particular you think could be cut in favor of additional ramp/card advantage/removal?

Finally, I'm not a fan of MLD though I know it's effective in a Kaalia of the Vast list given the ways to weather the storm of destruction.

Thanks for the feedback, and I'm curious on what you think of the above couple points.

GeminiSpartanX on Volrath, Voltron Reanimator

1 month ago

Profet93- I'm mostly trying to make it as consistent as possible while still giving homage to my commander's strengths. I know there are better reanimator commanders out there, but Volrath was one of the first legendary creatures I ever played with and as such, has a special place in my heart. In the previous version, I was just focusing on having the biggest cmc black and colorless cards in MtG and trying to swing in with him for the win, but it was too easily disrupted and the ramp wasn't enough to get there just by playing 1 fattie a turn otherwise. I figured the reanimation package will keep me in the game longer and make this deck more than a one-trick pony. I'm simply looking to cut the weakest cards from the list to keep up with the other powerful decks I normally play against (Tergrid, God of Fright  Flip, Be'Lakor, the Dark Master, Pantlaza, Sun-Favored, Edgar Markov, and Kaalia of the Vast).

leon_bulminot- This deck is not a 'sac' or aristocrats deck, so unfortunately some of your suggestions won't fit the bill here. My Kozilek is there to keep me from getting milled out against people who run infinite mill combos, and LotV is great at allowing me to discard a beefy guy from my hand to reanimate afterwards. The others Lilys are nice, but I actually cut a few tutors already to try and speed up the deck as too many tutors in a non-combo deck slow things down by paying extra mana for the cards you need, and this deck has enough ramp under 4 cmc that lily of the dark realms just barely didn't make the cut.

Doombeard1984 on The Song of Phyresis

1 month ago

Virulent Plague hoses most tokens permanently until its removed. Aether Snap deals with all token and counters on permanents. Key point is it doesnt remove poison counters from players.

I use Archfiend of Depravity in my Kaalia of the Vast deck to deal with big wide decks myself. Unless all those things have haste, this hoses their board each turn.

Just my initial thoughts if they help :)

Spirits on Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH

3 months ago

LordKunai,

The Snow-Covered Swamp and Snow-Covered Plains are protection against Blood Moon. We don't need Mountain because most of the lands will be mountains in that case.

They also cannot be Swamp or Plains because then you have a potential of countering our own Tainted Pact when looking for a Razaketh, the Foulblooded or a Master of Cruelties with Kaalia of the Vast triggered ability on the stack, or when looking for that last combo piece, or a Counterspell to stop someone from winning the game. It doubles our options for basic lands but also means that they don't conflict with our intstant tutor.

Mox Diamond could replace an interaction piece like Praetor's Grasp but it is nice to pull the opponents Thassa's Oracle and then win the game with a Tainted Pact. It could also pull a more control oriented card like Hellkite Tyrant that doesn't necessarily win the game, but he can devestate some players boards, could replace a Grand Abolisher but probably Everybody Lives! because well Everybody Lives (except the player trying to Fish-Consul win that is). Chrome Mox has a low activation rate in the turns that matter (I have a tab with the calculations but I haven't update my combine rates based on new artifacts, although Mox Diamond actually improves it's rate. Rakdos Signet isn't great becuase it's a MV3 (2 to cast, 1 to activate), so probably just easy to replace that! Thrill of Possibility is good to get a Worldgorger Dragon or Razaketh, the Foulblooded if for some reason we draw it, but isn't necessary. Thoughtseize might even be better (just target yourself), but even when used on an opponent it creates card disadvantage for you and one opponent, leaving the two others with card advantage now.

Probably Rakdos Signet goes, but we have different options for sure.

jameswarlord on [KFC] Kaalia Friended Chickens

5 months ago

Azoth2099 oh oops, done! I've been wondering these past couple days how to also make the deck work with the cards I want, with enough card draw, but also not extremely dependent on Kaalia. I've felt that my most powerful turns are around turn 5-6 where I become a threat if I go full unga bunga but after that if there's a board wipe or I got Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Serra's Emissary, or Kaalia of the Vast spot removed, I go the rest of the game crippled headbutting walls.

jameswarlord on [KFC] Kaalia Friended Chickens

5 months ago

Hi there! Thank you both Azoth2099 and lhetrick13 so much for the feedback! I agree that this deck right now isn't going many places as its trying to do too many things at once so your conversation is very insightful for me!

To clarify on lhetrick13 first comment (which I really appreciate!), Liliana's Contract is really there just for the card draw as I don't like her win con. I should probably replace it with something else as you point out. Maybe some of the ramp cards Azoth2099 suggested.

If anything, one of my goals with the deck was to be as versatile as I could to be able to exist in most games. The reasoning for my lifegain additions were that sometimes the demons (and other cards) giving me card draw outright leave with single digit health (looking at you Diabolic Intent) so I wanted things to soak damage and allow me to cancel out the life drain I was having. I do find fun however to gain a lot of life, but I have seen in many decks focused on lifegain that they go for wincons with Aetherflux Reservoir and I don't feel that's fun for me, so not sure how would I go about that rooute.

On the other side, I'm also very hesitant to go the aristocrat/reanimator route as all I feel all it takes is a cheap instant with graveyard hate to ruin the whole thing. I might be wrong here, but that's what I've seen from friends playing with half their deck in the graveyard. I've seen a lot of Kaalia of the Vast lists, however, that use just 2-3 cards that bring things back from the graveyard and I think that might be okay? But I might just be increasing the amount of things the deck can do without giving it more direction. What cards would you cut for more graveyard play?

As an aside, cards like Luminarch Ascension and Valkyrie Harbinger I've found to enjoy quite a lot as they give me more board presence over time and serve as a backup plan in case Kaalia is costing me 12 mana. I have no idea what type of deck that would lean into (probably army/tokens) but then I don't think I would be using Kaalia properly.

All that to just say, I'm very happy that you both are willing to share knowledge and help me here :D I would really like to add Azoth2099's suggestions, such as the Saw in Half combo but I am very lost with what cards should I cut as I would like to keep synergies with Dragon Tempest and synergies with Aurelia, the Warleader. I would assume that my intention with the deck is to go ful aggro? Honestly no idea, I welcome any thoughts.

Azoth2099 on [KFC] Kaalia Friended Chickens

5 months ago

jameswarlord

Hey man! Good to hear from you, nice job refining this list so far!

Yeah, Avacyn, Angel of Hope is stupid expensive lol, she probably always will be just because of how awesome she is. Proxy it in the meantime? Hell, I'd proxy an Ancient Copper Dragon too, they both win games.

Concerning Burning-Rune Demon: This card tends to get cut from a lot of decks that aren't running winning lines for it. Personally, my Kaalia of the Vast list also includes Dockside Extortionist, Corpse Dance & Disciple of the Vault, which enables Burning-Rune Demon to grab Razaketh, the Foulblooded & Reanimate to enable either a same-turn win or a next-turn win by generating infinite Treasures (and infinite Life via Children of Korlis) and nuking the board. It's also really good in Reanimator lists that are running the aforementioned pieces, as well as cards like Animate Dead, Necromancy, Buried Alive, Victimize & Karmic Guide to accelerate sheer board value if you don't want to run combos like that. If you apply it creatively, it essentially acts as an uncounterable Intuition in the deck, but for no mana cost & at Sorcery speed. Not the worst...

Concerning catching Ws: the #1 thing that's going to snag you wins here is making sure that you capitalize on the Commander's value as quickly as possible, as well as making sure that your deck doesn't necessarily need it's Commander on the field to dominate. You need more ramp and card draw, simply. I'd add the following ASAP:

Ramp: Culling the Weak, Dark Ritual, Burnt Offering, Cabal Ritual, Pyretic Ritual, Desperate Ritual, Seething Song, Talisman of Indulgence, Talisman of Hierarchy, Talisman of Conviction, Fellwar Stone Lotho, Corrupt Shirriff, & Deep Gnome Terramancer

Draw/Tutors: Archivist of Oghma, Moon-Blessed Cleric, Tectonic Reformation, Diabolic Intent, Gamble, Grim Tutor, Idyllic Tutor, Steelshaper's Gift & Sarkhan's Triumph.

Also, I know you've stated that you are trying to stay withing certain budget constraints, but Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor & Enlightened Tutor have seen recent reprints, and are cheaper right now than they will be in the future. Just something to consider.

All of these will help you get on and stay on! Let me know what you think.

jameswarlord on Kaalia's Treasure Trove

5 months ago

lhetrick13 I fell in love with your Kaalia of the Vast deck theme as I feel it brings so much utility to itself that I ended up incorporating quite a few cards from your deck into mine!

I have been struggling making a family friendly Kaalia deck for a while now and have recently given up. Now I'm looking into stepping up my combat capabilities and tunning the deck to run better with proper wincons hopefully through combat. I'd be super happy if you could take a look at it and share your thoughts!

[KFC] Kaalia Friended Chickens

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