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Kaalia of the Vast
Legendary Creature — Human Cleric
Whenever Kaalia of the Vast attacks an opponent, you may put an Angel, Demon, or Dragon creature card from your hand onto the battlefield tapped and attacking that opponent.
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Kaalia of the Vast Discussion
3 weeks ago
Both your recommendations to Bigant1 are good though, adding them to my maybeboard as well for evaluation and possible inclusion.
3 weeks ago
I was getting pretty upset last week, when I saw God-Eternal Kefnet and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries then I saw the Leonin Relic-Warder + Animate Dead , I abuse him with Oblivion Ring in other decks, Brago, the Banisher $50 EDH with Reveillark and Alesha, Boros' Crusade $50 EDH with Fiend Hunter , but this one BLEW my mind, it's so simple, good on it's own, and doesn't need any off-synergy cards!
Sounds like your having great success with this type of build! When T2-T4 good ol' Buried Alive is the back-up plan, in pretty good shape. He's the Master of Cruelties should never show mercy! If they winning on T7 that's pretty good too, no fun in dragging the game out past T5!
Agreed Hatred is just too much of a life commitment, even when casting it on a Lifelink creature, the initial burden of life is too much, Leonin Relic-Warder is far more value as an alternative win-con! I always find it strange that people fear Kaalia of the Vast , sit down at table with Kess, Dissident Mage , Prossh, Skyraider of Kher , and Derevi, Empyrial Tactician , it's wrong evaluation that Kaalia of the Vast is the highest threat, even if I resolve a Avacyn, Angel of Hope early.
Sneak Attack doesn't get me a Buried Alive so it's not as useful, in many cases (without a Razaketh, the Foulblooded or Rune-Scarred Demon ) for example. Sneak Attack needs other synergistic cards to be truly effective (unless you have a Razaketh, the Foulblooded )
3 weeks ago
Until I found your Leonin Relic-Warder combo, there really wasn't much in the way of power <=2 creatures to Tutor with Imperial Recruiter where in my Mizzix, the Storm EDH deck he's critical, nor was there anyone with Toughness <=2 with Recruiter of the Guard . I've added them to my maybeboard now for consideration. A Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker in my hand is a terrible, terrible place, I had to add Faithless Looting just to have a tutor-able solution to that possibility, but also evaluating, Tortured Existence and Chains of Mephistopheles .
Sneak Attack is the same CMC4 as Kaalia of the Vast , and along similar lines, only it uses instead of Haste to activate the ability. Early on I did quite a bit with Sneak Attack but if Kaalia of the Vast wasn't working (no A/D/D in hand for example) Sneak Attack wasn't either and didn't need the redundancy.
3 weeks ago
I played a total of four games this weekend. I wanted to try using Leonin Relic-Warder , So I intentionally played Two games trying to win with it. well, Both games...I was able to win on T4 using Leonin Relic-Warder . Which at first I thought was going to take awhile to pull off, having to tutor for everything but I found it to be quite simple.
Another game, which was a pod of 5, I won on T6 using the good ol' Buried Alive | Karmic Guide + Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Restoration Angel . I could have actually won on T5 but I misplayed. So what I did was, having 3 Mana left open, I Grim Tutor on T5, grabbing Reanimate , setting me up for the win on T6, when I should have played Mausoleum Secrets (which I also had in hand) to tutor for Reanimate and with the remaining I could have played Reanimate that same turn. Which goes to show, I still need a lot more play time, So these simple mistakes don't happen.
The last game was 1V1. I could have won on T5 with Kaalia of the Vast + Master of Cruelties but I didn't end up playing it because, well, I felt a little bad. And I ended up losing on T7 that game But realistically, we could just say I won if I hadn't shown mercy.
Sir_Flash Lifegaining is working but its hard to maintain to utilize Hatred . The reason being is i'm almost instantly the target. It's hard holding onto life when i'm up against 3 or even 4 other players and they're all pinging/attacking me each turn. The lifegain is there but it never maintains along with my tutoring, just makes it harder for the use of Hatred . But I have yet to die by life total becoming 0. I'm either knocked out by infect or by someone else going infinite before I do.
And the thing with Gamble , every time I play it, I cross my fingers and I clench my jaw and think to myself "I can win if it plays in my favor" but then it's like it can set me back a bit if it doesn't. I may have played this deck a total of 25 times so far and used Gamble about 8 of those times and it's played in my favor each time except for once (during a tournament of all games, go figure)
Although Sneak Attack is great. I don't see it fitting the tempo of this build. I could be wrong, Spirits would have a better assessment about this than I would but so far from playing, the deck would have to alter a bit to accommodate Sneak Attack which would take on a slightly different build. I have yet to win a game with creatures attacking, the only thing I could see it working with is throwing out Rune-Scarred Demon or Doom Whisperer for some quick tutoring and possibly even Demonlord Belzenlok or Razaketh, the Foulblooded . But with a to cast and an additional to play, it gets me thinking of just throwing in Diabolic Tutor as an additional tutor source. But I could certainly be wrong and i'd be more than happy to receive some clarification as i'm still fairly new and getting a hang of this.
4 weeks ago
I was logged off, no wonder why I never received any notifications.
After reading some comments I must add:
Life gaining is definitely important in this deck, I cant tell you how much life I've spent tutoring especially with Dark Confidant , that thing always hits me with big A/D/D. I might actually have to add back in some life gain. I agree about replacing either/both Gisela, the Broken Blade and Baneslayer Angel . Their lifelink is what's keeping them in place plus their synergy with Kaalia of the Vast . Until there are better replacements, they'll be sticking around.
After playing around with Hatred . I could never seem to use it comfortably, in other words, afraid to use it due to low life. Unlike you Spirits This seems to be a consistent issue with me for whatever reason it may be. Majority of my wins so far, my life's been in the single digits. Too close to comfort.
As of right now, Mox Diamond is inplace of Fellwar Stone , Gamble is taking the place of Terminate and Hatred is in place of Hellkite Tyrant , which i'm sure is throwing off the creature ratio but other than that, the deck is identical.
One thing I will add, During a game on T2, I played my land for turn, I Also threw out Mox Diamond having to discard a land. Missed my T3 Land drop, Which wouldn't have happened if I played a Fellwar Stone instead on T2. First time its happened, other than that, Mox Diamond has been doing well; it's just a speedier card. Thought i'd mention that because sometimes, discarding a land might cripple you a turn or two.
1 month ago
The turn I cast Kaalia of the Vast I want to Equip Lightning Greaves , If someone tries to remove in response, I can be flexible, is it ? ? ? I won't know until I see what's coming. It also allows me to (without CMC2) change my color to . Where Flickering Ward costs me mana () AND is Sorcery speed, it's the same as Lightning Greaves basically. Also, Mother of Runes can block and then give herself Protection from the Attacking creatures color. She can also be sacrificed to Razaketh, the Foulblooded and often is. She protects Kaalia of the Vast , allows the Razaketh, the Foulblooded play, then Tutors the win-con for a and 2 life. If someone removes Kaalia of the Vast with Flickering Ward on the stack, your not going to be having a good day. Also, the turn I cast Kaalia of the Vast i don't want to have to wait for an additional to cast Flickering Ward that's a whole turn slower! Mother of Runes helps with Mausoleum Secrets as well.
A strong synergy with Leonin Relic-Warder + Animate Dead + Razaketh, the Foulblooded , tutor as many times as you have 2 life (half your life less 1). Easy to pull Buried Alive or Reanimate or Goblin Bombardment . The issue is to cast Goblin Bombardment you need to pause the infinite combo, but I figure tutor some CMC0 rocks and Goblin Bombardment and then restart the combo with Restoration Angel . Depends on mana situations and life situations. Either way, it tutors every card you need to win to your hand. Cloudshift also has synergy with this combo and is good with ETB A/D/D.
Leonin Relic-Warder + Animate Dead + Entomb ( Razaketh, the Foulblooded ) + Reanimate isn't outside the realm of a T1 win for ++, especially since Leonin Relic-Warder can untap your Chrome Mox on first cast as well. Gemstone Caverns + Godless Shrine + Chrome Mox + Mana Crypt does it T1.
1 month ago
Really like the Leonin Relic-Warder + Animate Dead + Razaketh, the Foulblooded | Almost Infinite Tutor Synergy, I'm going to use it in my deck Kaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH. With Kaalia of the Vast play Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Sacrifice Kaalia of the Vast tutor Leonin Relic-Warder , cast Leonin Relic-Warder , if I have a tapped Artifact mana exile it, then Sacrifice Leonin Relic-Warder to Tutor Animate Dead , Cast Animate Dead , bring Leonin Relic-Warder back exiling the Animate Dead , Sacrifice Leonin Relic-Warder to pull Chrome Mox , any spell to Imprint, Mana Crypt , Sol Ring , Restoration Angel and Goblin Bombardment . Then cast all the rocks, and Goblin Bombardment , using rocks to pay for Restoration Angel re-engage the Animate Dead but using Goblin Bombardment as the Sacrifice outlet for Infinite Damage. (CMC5) + 16 life win. If I have Goblin Bombardment in play already, a CMC3 + 14 life win.
It's pretty awesome for me, because Leonin Relic-Warder + Animate Dead + Goblin Bombardment on it's own is also pretty quick. With an Entomb I can definitely Entomb the Leonin Relic-Warder , Animate Dead it and cast Goblin Bombardment on Turn 1 and win (with things like Gemstone Caverns , Chrome Mox , Mana Crypt , Etc.) I need to get a Mox Diamond in there but so much cash! Very exited to include the Leonin Relic-Warder .
I like Path to Exile , I'll often exile one of my creatures to ramp an extra land into play, plus the other obvious benefits.
These were a bit confusing, until I read, Attack lines. Might describe them in summary detail like:
Leonin Squire + Lion's Eye Diamond + Razaketh, the Foulblooded | Tutor Reanimate + Leonin Relic-Warder + Animate Dead Combo. For this one how do you get the Impact Tremors into play without losing control of the Animate Dead ?
No Sunscorched Desert ? it's a which I know sucks since everything needs mana, but with Worldgorger Dragon it's similar to Impact Tremors although that works with Leonin Relic-Warder + Animate Dead . Sunscorched Desert as a land has CMC+1 (colorless) though. Piranha Marsh used to be a staple, but it ETB tapped so useless to me.
Since you already play Tainted Pact , an Instant speed tutor, it also allows you to instant speed pull a Comet Storm (I know your running Cut / Ribbons because it's modular), without pausing the Worldgorger Dragon combo. Just a thought anyway. Cut / Ribbons is less of a dead draw for sure, but also Sorcery and subject to Graveyard hate. Comet Storm is definitely not as modular probably why it doesn't make the cut.
I saw another deck with Subterranean Tremors , not sure I get it, at CMC5 it destroys all artifacts and probably most creatures without flying. It's CMC2 to remove most mana dork accelerators, only benefit I can see. Not sure I get that one Sorcery speed.
I don't have any great suggestions, Mother of Runes perhaps, she can be Sacrificed to Razaketh, the Foulblooded , provide protection for the Worldgorger Dragon since a single Swords to Plowshares ends your game. Can also protect Kaalia of the Vast or make Kaalia of the Vast unblockable in some cases.
Your quite different than me, but also very much the same. I had Worldgorger Dragon in before, but choose to remove it and go with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker combo focus and didn't need another "same" win-con. My alt-win going to be the Leonin Relic-Warder for sure.
1 month ago
You are right, thinking about it, the shock lands entering tapped is a replacement effect, so Angel of Jubilation doesn't care about those.
Arid Mesa and Marsh Flats didn't get reprinted, but there are other cheaper ones like Flooded Strand I bought them when they were $8 now they are going insane again, also Polluted Delta is reprinted, as well as Windswept Heath and Wooded Foothills . Wooded Foothills can only pull Mountain but if you use it to pull a Blood Crypt or Sacred Foundry it's still quite good.
Leyline of the Void price is ridiculous wow.
Rakdos the Defiler can make it so he's not casting Meren of Clan Nel Toth losing half their lands, and other permanents. You can always sacrifice the Rakdos the Defiler to his Plaguecrafter or other crew. It took me a very long time to get him into my deck, I kept holding on to creatures like Aurelia, the Warleader . I think he's very cheap, give him a try. Remember that when he enters the battlefield "tapped and attacking" his "when he attacks" ability doesn't trigger, you just get the benefit of the "when he deals damage". Sometimes, I know it seems crazy, I sac half my permanents and attack, in 1v1, people find it hard dealing with a 7/6 Flying Trample timer when every permanent they play is lost (remember he is a Demon permanent so he doesn't sac himself).
Zealous Conscripts is good on his own which makes him nice, my issue with him is the CMC5, its too slow for cEDH usually.
Also, Mother of Runes , one of her awesome powers is that I give Kaalia of the Vast protection from the color of the flying blocker that's going to kill her so she can't be blocked, or give her protection before damage to save her, or give her instant protection. Doesn't help with Sacrifice though (except that you can sacrifice the Mother of Runes to protect Kaalia of the Vast .
Overall very cool build, lot's of fun synergies in there.
Kaalia of the Vast occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
RBW (Mardu): 0.45%