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Vial Smasher the Fierce
Legendary Creature — Goblin Berserker
Whenever you cast the first spell each turn, Vial Smasher the Fierce deals damage equal to the spell's converted mana cost to an opponent chosen at random.
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Vial Smasher the Fierce Discussion
3 weeks ago
I also think your deck would be a lot stronger if you included some heavier artifact ramp such as Grim Monolith, Mana Vault, Chrome Mox. Maybe even Fellwar Stone. I also really like running Nature's Lore and Skyshroud Claim because they can search for shock lands (or original duals if you're that guy) and the lands don't enter tapped. If you are going that route, Lotus Cobra becomes ridiculous, particularly if you are running fetch lands too (which you should be if you can afford them).
Finally, I would consider the Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix and Vial Smasher the Fierce partnership a little better then your current one. Adding red gives you access to a lot more Wheel of Fortune effects. Then again, I can understand not wanting to add another color as it requires you to change your deck up quite a bit.
Sorry, I know most of my suggestions are on the pricier side but I did see a few more expensive cards in your list so I thought you might be willing to throw down a little more $$$. If you have any questions, let me know! I am a pretty seasoned commander/EDH player.
4 weeks ago
Make it two commanders for extra chaos? Vial Smasher the Fierce has partner!
4 weeks ago
How are you finding using Chrome Mox? is it worth discarding a card for ramping for you?
1 month ago
Hey gang, first thread here so please feel free to provide any constructive criticism! Haven't been active in a forum for quite some time..
Anyways, I'm contemplating sort of an odd strategy to utilize Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa as a general. I'm considering Vial Smasher the Fierce or Ludevic, Necro-Alchemist as his partner. Right now it seems like black brings more to the table for this particular strategy and I love b/w removal options but it's possible there are things I've overlooked in blue, and Ludevic insentivizes the kind of thing I'm going for and gives me access to Edric, Spymaster of Trest for total craziness!
The main strategy of this deck would be to give my opponents little 1/1 and 2/2 tokens to hit each other with providing evasion with Kondo, maybe turn up the heat with goad and goad-like effects while trying to deter combat damage directed to myself with cards like Ghostly Prison, Sphere of Safety, Crawlspace, Dictate of Erebos, Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs, Mystic Barrier. You get the picture!
Mob Rule, Insurrection, Army of the Damned and Massacre Wurm are possible win conditions and Overseer of the Damned, Blood Artist, Soul Warden, Vicious Shadows, and Revel in Riches benefit from a carnage of etb and death triggers. I can also benefit from the Commander 2017 curses so that's something to consider as well!
What I feel I need the most help with is cards that put tokens into the battlefield under an opponent(s) control. They're definitely a corner case and it's not entirely easy to do a search for them either seeing how the wording varies quite a bit for cards that do this!
Some I've found are:
- Akroan Horse
- Hunted Dragon (as well as others within the 'hunted' cycle)
- Alliance of Arms
- Sylvan Offering
- Tempt with Vengeance
- Infernal Genesis
- Reality Shift
- Goblin Spymaster
I'd also love to hear some interesting synergies if someone comes up with any! This will definitely be a casual deck so no suggestion is too outside of the box, please feel free!
P.S. ooooooh! I just discovered Mogg Infestation!!
1 month ago
ScrOuch Thanks for leaving some feedback for me!
Good call on the Phyrexian Delver it's been really strong.
Body Snatcher isn't a great flicker target, though if i run more sac outlets it might be better.
Dictate of Erebos isn't quite budget enough for me, I really like that the entire deck is under $50. This way when folks see it play out i can tell them the idea and that the deck could be upgraded as well
Outpost Siege is right on theme though i'm not sure what to cut for it
Blood Artist doesn't trigger on flickers, but it is a good card and in multiplayer games creatures die and i'll get value. I think I want to commit to the theme of flicker over good stuff additions right now though
Goblin Bombardment and Ashnod's Altar are good though i'm not to sure they will be strong enough if i don't add the dictate. Also the commander isn't the focus of the deck so adding things just for him seems loose IMO
LVL_666 Thanks for all your suggestions! Lets dive in,
Rune-Scarred Demon is out of budget range. It's not that I don't have it, I do, I just want to run the entire deck under $50. So that means missing out on Dictate of Erebos and the demon but adding Dreamscape Artist and Sire of Stagnation
Noxious Gearhulk I think i want to add, even with the price tag$. All my creature kill now can't kill black creatures and I kinda want more life gain and this card works on both levels. What's better though, Noxious Gearhulk or Inferno Titan???
Vial Smasher the Fierce dosen't fit the theme and is almost a good stuff addition, so I'll pass for now.
Crater Hellion, Ratchet Bomb and Sever the Bloodline are sweet anti token measures, here is what i was thinking Devastation Tide. It deals with the tokens, enchantments, planswalkers, and other unbeatable positions I could find myself in. What do you think?
quitrage Thanks for the bringing some sweet ideas to the table
Dance of the Dead I want to add, though i'm not sure i can think of the cut for it, any thoughts?
1 month ago
"If you have a good ETB creature or a clever way of dealing with tokens I'd love to hear it. Thanks!"
Here are some creatures that came to mind that have clever ETB triggers. They may not exactly be within your budget, but can be good to keep in mind if they come up for a trade:
Rune-Scarred Demon - can provide all your tutoring needs for each flicker
Noxious Gearhulk - can be removal on a stick as long as you flicker him
Vial Smasher the Fierce - as you cast spells he can passively smack someone in the face. I'll admit I have a bias when it comes to this little guy though, as I run him in one of my own decks. But he's fun none the less.
So when it comes to dealing with tokens, the first idea I had was Engineered Explosives for 0. That is a tailor made approach right there. But is rather pricey. So the following are other possibilities within your budget:
Crater Hellion - within your theme of ETB creatures, and kills all tokens toughness 4 or lower.
Ratchet Bomb - within budget, and can kill all tokens when you don't tap it to add counters.
Sever the Bloodline - potentially reusable within your deck, as it has good sorcery and instant recursion.
Hope these suggestions help. Also, very cool concept for a deck. So it gets a +1 from me.
2 months ago
Yeah, I have my deck right here. Do note the description is partially under construction, so it might mention some cards that are no longer in the deck or lack descriptions for some of it's mechanics.
To say the least both cards I suggested to you have worked wonderfully in shutting down commanders such as Atarka, World Render and Uril, the Miststalker as well as other threats like Blightsteel Colossus from pulling off one-shot KO's. The Bridge and Presence give ample enough time to react when you need it most. While Divine Presence doesn't turn off combat it effectively wrecks commanders like Ruric Thar, the Unbowed, Heartless Hidetsugu, and Vial Smasher the Fierce where Ensnaring Bridge would fail to protect you from, and 3 damage at most is a lot better to take than instances of 8, 9, or 10 damage.
2 months ago
You could consider Vial Smasher the Fierce. He is good on his own and might even make for a good commander option since it would allow you to partner him with something else like Ravos, Soultender for example. It would act as a nice replacement for Wort's effect, buff your team, and allow you to delve into white.