|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Printings View all
|Masterpiece Series: Amonkhet Invocations||None|
|Modern Masters 2017 Edition||Rare|
Combos Browse all
Nonbasic lands are Mountains.
Price & Acquistion Set Price Alerts
|Have (21)||, ironax , DevoidMage , CampbellStev , Justinaut , DruneGrey , jrschnoebelen , AlertKnave8075 , greanbeaner , ZombieFood , Jareht , capriom85 , HR19 , xAmphion , Ocheyo , TehDelta , golgarigirl , awalloftext , LTmiller , xpsychovampx , Halphinian|
|Want (7)||Bovine073 , KB2187 , knto , Nemesis , Gabeph , Dadaman11 , TimothyClover|
Blood Moon Discussion
1 day ago
I've tested my G/W Hatebears against the deck yes as well as my Mono-White build sparingly, however I mainly have tested for other people and done substantial testing against my turns deck I have been working on.
I think ponza is not well positioned against the mono-white version of death & taxes especially against more experienced pilots. The deck inherently does not care too much about it's mana, and as a precaution I always play Weathered Wayfarer regardless. As I assume you know the best way to beat the deck is to deny the Aether Vial, yet even then there are ways we can work around that, for example the aforementioned Weathered Wayfarer. The mono-white version is closer to the legacy deck and as such runs it's own mana disruption plan too, Blood Moon removes that threat but at a cost. So basically in my testing my gameplan piloting your deck while I was developing matchup knowledge was turn 1-3 deny Aether Vial and try to land some kind of threat, from there Blood Moon and mana denial, not allowing D&T to rebuild in a turn.
As the death and taxes player however, I decided to go the agro route leaving most of my control to be gobbled, a landed Thalia, Guardian of Thraben could go a long way however. I'll be sure to test Death & Taxes more against your deck so I can give you more concrete tips, but my gameplan when I did use D&T was the agro route whereas others may try to go controlling.
As an aside note I have seen people try to side in Chalice of the Void to shut off one and two for me and I'll admit it can be effective but risky.
Some advice for the matchup I can give psychologically is pay attention to your opponent game one, often D&T players will chose which route they take the deck in game one at some point and you can see which route they take through there plays, for example a player who flickers Blade Splicer with Flickerwisp is favoring agro and is testing to see if game two they can out tempo you, a player who plays a Flickerwisp to deny you resources is likely attempting to use a more controlling strategy (though I'll admit against ponza, getting rid of Sprawl is always tempting). Also a turn three Mirran Crusader or Brimaz, King of Oreskos is probably the clearest indication that the D&T player is going agro and trying to win quickly (when someone does this it may be because they don't have experience however so be wary). People underestimate mono-white D&T as well, the deck will make your life miserable and use a variety of tricks to keep you off balance; I always tell players to not adapt to what a D&T player is doing as that is what we want you to do, if you adapt you are letting us influence your gameplan and from there D&T shines as it builds up a lock on the game the longer you let it go.
Never be afraid to establish priority against D&T, honestly most players forget this but many interactions in D&T rely on priority and the state of the stack. Though more impactful in legacy, D&T still plays mana denial and it will do anything to keep you from achieving your goal. At it's heart it is agro control and must be give the same amount of respect as that U/W control deck or U/B list.
So general notes on my experience against ponza. The most impactful card I have faced was Chalice of the Void (specifically on two), it makes the deck much less adaptive.
Ironically, the least impactful cards I have found, at least against the gameplan I like to use, were the land hate cards, making them more expensive and then landing Weathered Wayfarer made it feel irrelevant.
As I said, I really like your build of ponza so I'll be sure to test my mono-white against it more so I can give you more specific tips. If you made it this far, thanks for putting up with my rambling.
on Rakdos burn
1 day ago
I would suggest Blood Moon for the sideboard if you can't find any place for it mainboard.
1 day ago
Blood Moon and Lethal Vapors are both really solid options here. Also, Shiek200 is right about me wanting to stay away from any more creatures, I'm probably going to cut Massacre Wurm too because it never really does what I want. Regarding Price of Glory, I have tried it and it is good but I'd rather play something more fun :P it's also kind of meta dependent.
1 day ago
I've looked into Prismatic Omen. It is a very good card and prevents being blown out by Blood Moon. However, it opens you up to landwalk type effects and land destruction like Boil. For these reasons, I have chosen to go with Burgeoning for now, at least. I appreciate your input gatorgoat0339.You are the first person in over a year to leave a comment, thank you!
1 day ago
He wouldn't have enough creatures to run Contamination effectively, but Blood Moon could be good. I would try Infernal Darkness instead. Price of Glory could also be really solid. Not sure how I like Storm Cauldron in this deck, but it's another option.
1 day ago
2 days ago
Hello again! I really have a problem making decisions, so i'm here to ask your opinions. I want to make a deck IRL, but in the real world i'm a university student, hence i don't have a lot of spare money. Based on what i like, my options are:
1) BW Aristocrat, with a list similar to this one: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-96-40-tix-wb-aristocrats-modern (or the one played by Artemesis on his YT channel if Champion of the Parish wasn't so expensive)
2) Bw vehicles, like this: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-84-50-tix-mono-black-vehicles-modern, but with more Spirit tokens
3) pure BW Tokens, but without Bitterblossom i doubt it has that "oomph" to fight in the current meta.
5) BG Death Cloud. The recent success of Komatsu Masahito rekindled my flame for it, but i am not sure it can be enough to make it survive in a (more or less) competitive environment.
Sixth would be the new RG Vengevine if it's namesake card didn't skyrocketed to its current price. As a final note, i have no particular meta indications, since it is different in my hometown from what it is where i study. Thanks to everyone who had the force to read until this point and wants to help me choose.
2 days ago
Very strong board wipe. I think it is fairly well balanced, and if anything I would have made it 6 mana for how strong that effect is. Maybe I'm wrong.
During the blood moon in the northeast last year I wanted to make a blood moon based boardwipe (not based on Blood Moon). It ended up an interesting card, though I don't think balanced.
Blood Eclipse deals x damage to each creature. If a creature dealt damage by blood Eclipse would die this turn, exile it instead. Each creature exiled by blood Eclipse deals x damage to its controller.
I'm unsure whether it would be to strong or not strong enough. I guess it would depend on the deck it was in