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Meren of Clan Nel Toth
Legendary Creature — Human Shaman
Whenever another creature you control dies, you get an experience counter.
At the beginning of your end step, choose target creature card in your graveyard. If that card's converted mana cost is less than or equal to the number of experience counters you have, return it to the battlefield. Otherwise, put it into your hand.
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Meren of Clan Nel Toth Discussion
3 days ago
I don't refer to this list at all to define casual EDH. I only get notifications from here still because I like to see the discussion of new commanders since I don't really check the spoilers all that often and it's just convenient to get these alerts and participate in the discussion haha. I don't like the tier system at all, and although it may be a good resource to new players, it doesn't accurately portray the viability of other commanders in these specified lower tiers. I've always just had the mentality of picking up a legendary creature that looks neat, and building around it and I think that's what deckbuilding in this format should be about rather than basing your choices heavily or even solely on a tier standing. I'm sorry if we misunderstood each other, I was just a little upset that you dismissed the overall premise of my original comment.
To be fair, the disclaimer in the beginning says not to hate if your commander is not ranked how you like it, and I understand that tiers matter to this list, but the thing is I've played against some tier 4 and 5 commander decks that can hold their own against tier 1 and 2 in competitive games, which doesn't match the tier description for these lower tiers either so I just find there to be inaccuracies and inconsistencies with the ranking criteria considering some of these low tier generals can prove to be an outlier and exception to these current set tier descriptions. Ugh now it looks like I'm getting roped into this discussion and looking worked up about this.
All I ever meant by any of this is not to let this tier list limit you from your commander choices. For instance, if you want to play reanimator, don't assume Meren of Clan Nel Toth is the best of the best because Meren players are a dime a dozen. Sure, Meren does offer incredible value with the strategy, but there are honestly countless choices to be at the helm of this strategy as well that offer their own unique flavor, and same thing goes for any strategy for that matter. I encourage people to be unique with their commander choices, and I can't emphasize enough especially to new players to the format not to see this list and think "since Zur is tier 1, I'm going to build Zur" or something because the tier standing should not be the driving force behind your decision when building a deck.
4 days ago
ive been playing my Meren of Clan Nel Toth deck and having alot of fun. its pretty damn casual overall without any infinite combos or something. our playgroup is one of the rare groups that enjoy very long (3 hour games) and are perfectly fine with land destruction as we run plenty of dorks/rocks and apperantly Elixir of Immortality. so i stumbled on this card Living Plane which would be hella funny but its also EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. i know of Nature's Revolt and Natural Affinity as other options. any other cards you guys might know of that turn lands into creatures for me to kill?
6 days ago
1 week ago
Personally I run him. I consider him more of a redundancy card. Three points:
I would rather have Sakura-Tribe Elder most of the time, but I'm not going to see him every game. Redundancy is a big part of an effective EDH deck.
Solemn Simulacrum is colorless. Not usually a problem with a well-tuned EDH mana base; however, every deck has a bad mana draw every once in a while. He'll help keep you from getting locked out forever.
Don't underestimate him also drawing you a card. Playing and saccing him all in one turn while Meren of Clan Nel Toth is out will net you: one land, one card, and one experience counter. Using the right sacrifice outlet further increases this value.
1 week ago
This feels like a diet Athreos' Apostles deck. It somehow manages to be 500$ but has a pretty high mana curve and not enough rocks. It's got a lot of flavor, I'll give you that, but the power's just not there. Not only that, but if people are consistently destroying your demons or you don't draw into Liliana's Contract or worse yet someone destroys that, what happens then? You go on the beatdown plan with some kinda-powerful fliers?
I suggest you get some tutors for the contact, about 40 Shadowborn Apostles, and Athreos, God of Passage. Throw in more removal using the newly-acquired white cards, get some graveyard recursion (preferably mass recursion bc your opponent will probably pay the 3 life a lot).
Or you could go blue/black and go control w/ the apostles, go tribal and throw in Arcane Adaptation as a more or less instant win.
Shit, there are a lot of creature tutors in green. Better yet, dredge is really good card advantage! You could run a delirium/recursion/grave shenanigans build in golgari. You could run a super fun, bizarre Meren of Clan Nel Toth brew.
In red you could try Grusilda, Monster Masher if your friends are all right with some unstable mechanics.
What I'm saying is that you could open up a lot more possibilities if you moved out of mono-black. Sorry if any of this sounded harsh, your deck is really exciting and I love Lili's Contract as a win con. Happy brewing!
1 week ago
I know how Protector of the Crown works, I had it in here for over a month. In order to make this card work, I would need to load it up with my equipment, and that is NOT WORTH IT. Protector is not good by himself, he needs support in order to make him work, and that is not worth the card slot for me. If I needed more things to protect myself with, I'd run something like Crawlspace or maybe Norn's Annex because those cards are good BY THEMSELVES. They don't stop working because I didn't equip Darksteel Plate to them.
I understand why Hammer of Nazahn is a great card, but it's just that I don't have room for it. I really only need one Darksteel Plate effect, and I personally prefer Plate over Hammer because of the equip cost and because the Plate itself has indestructible. I need to try it out with my flex spot sometime because maybe I'm wrong!
As for Aurelia, the Warleader, I actually had her in this deck for over 2 1/2 years and just recently took her out! She is a fantastic card, but I had to cut her because I needed room for more important cards. Usually extra combat step cards are "win more" cards, but because the effect is on a creature it's great
Tajic, Blade of the Legion calls for a completely different play style than Kalemne. He isn't as good as a voltron general because you need to have at least two other creatures attacking as well in order to activate his battalion ability, and even then, his damage output isn't even close to Kalemne because Kalemne naturally has double strike. Sure, Tajic players don't need to run Darksteel Plate, but Kalemne players don't need to run things like Fireshrieker or Silverblade Paladin to get in for crazy amounts of damage and double the Sword and Jitte triggers. Besides, indestructible isn't always relevant anyways. If you're playing against something like Meren of Clan Nel Toth for example (an archetype I play against frequently), they'll rely less on destroy effects and more on sacrifice effects like Fleshbag Marauder. If you like winning with Tajic by casting Obliterate and having the only creature left on the board, then by all means go for it. Kalemne is just better at everything else
1 week ago
Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas used to be unique as the only commander with active Double Strike.
However, now we have Samut, Voice of Dissent, one extra mana to cast, almost identical but comes with tonnes of useful abilities. Then we have Oketra the True and Zetalpa, Primal Dawn, the unlikely commander choice.
The concept of experience counter isn't all that bad. The concept is simple by fulfilling the term to earn the counters and you'll be rewarded for what you've paid for.
Meren of Clan Nel Toth is sadistic. She loves your creatures die and brings them back just to die over and over again.
Ezuri, Claw of Progress is peado who groom your minions.
Mizzix of the Izmagnus is a super saleswoman who promotes buy-more-free-more. Ended up a shopping frenzy.
Daxos the Returned's experience counter ability gets a little irrelevant. He encourages you to play enchantment, but he complement the weakness by providing creatures, which you won't be running a board full of enchantment with no creature.
Now, here comes Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas. She wants you to play creature spells with 5cmc+ to earn the counters which has nothing to do in return with the 5cmc creatures whatsoever.
Perhaps wizards really aren't sure what to do when it comes to combat phase.
2 weeks ago
elgosu1337 - Ishkanah has been pretty good, both as a midrange threat and a backup to the typical Beast Within / Reality Shift package that wins after generating infinite mana. It is probably the worst midrange threat though, I could see it getting cut when that Lich gets printed (very excited for that card).
Not going to lie, I completely forgot about Notion Thief, I should probably find a home for him and the sphinx.
Breakthrough feels like more of a combo card, with the number of reactive cards in the deck I dont think I want to be aggressively discarding things to fuel delve.
Meren of Clan Nel Toth and Cryptic Command are both things that I tried at one point and wasnt a fan of. Without the various sac outlets and a critical mass of ways to trigger experience, Meren almost never reanimated a creature. And as for Cryptic, being triple blue just bit me in the ass too many times. Havent tried the primordials in this though, thats a good idea.